to explain that i've got enough political problems without -- without you making me look like napole napoleon have got to bring it down just a touch. ha-ha. >> we, you know it is interesting. becausemmediately aft the president made that statement, i had to ce through and clarify, say, you know he was joking about this. barack obama has an incredible since of humor. he was able i think to key in on some of the really comical aspects that exist in our history. so much of what my work does is echo the ego, the bravado that kp exists in british and french portraiture. some of the stuff looks interesting, juxtaposed on the streets of america and internationally. why people responded to the work. i half been known for her to fore. at president's portraiture had to take a different direction. i am proud of the direction of that we took. >> okay. listen, i am really grateful for you talking to us today. it is an amazing moment. congratulations to both of you. thank you so much indeed. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> well, as president obama was leaving office he warned president elect trump, that nor

and i had to explain that i've got enough political problems without you making me look like napole napoleonwe've got to bring it down just a touch. >> so bringing it down just a touch is still very colorful and exciting and vibrant portrait. >> last quick question, because i loved actually hearing former president obama talking about what he had in common with the artist and talking about their american mothers and how they both shared this being on a path and obviously the president took one direction and he talked about using words and discovering that versus kahende using art. but there was a moment when the president mentioned just, you know, the white house and missing his staff. what did he say, kate? >> there's clearly some -- there was some reminiscing. there was a lot of thanks going around in the crowd. we saw david axelrod and robert gibbs and other friends. certainly the obamas are nostalgic for their white house, probably not enough to spend a lot of time still in the spotlight, but they certainly acknowledge the friends that were in the audience today and those who supported t