but while he was there, he also met napoleon bonaparte.on had been running around with all his different conquests. he had just returned from egypt where he'd stolen a bunch of artifacts and murdered a bunch of egyptians and when he got back to paris the first person he wanted to see was kosciuszko and he walked in his room in paris and said, i urgently wanted to meet the hero of the north. and kosciuszko replied, and i'm happy to see the conqueror of europe and the hero of the east. but after talking to him for a while, kosciuszko realized that he doesn't care about freedom or liberty or any of those things. in fact, he's going to be a tyrant. so he contacted his friends and the french directorate who was running the government. keep an eye on that i don't think might he might spoil your arrangement. turns out he was right because three weeks later napoleon staged a coup d'etat. there's a lot i want to tell you about kosciuszko but then you're not going to buy the book. [laughter] >> but there's two points i would like to make in closing.

tolstoy did his research, but he had an opinion about napoleon.o i'm really throwing these big guns at you now, but you mustn't be overwhelmed. i mean, even i, whenever i have time, i have a little fun with jp morgan. but the thing is that famous people usually make fictions of themselves long before the riders get to them. [laughter] >> and if you want to read real fiction about morgan, read his authorized biography. [laughter] >> i think i've said enough. >> you said you write everyday. can you give us a clue as to what's coming up next from you? ended separately, of everything you've written in the past, what's been the thing you are most happy with? >> i will give you clues as to what i'm running out is another great novel. [laughter] >> you want to know the particular one book you should read, is that it? why bother? adventuring into reading and figuring out for yourself. you want a label. you want the one book that is worth reading, is that it? well, let's see. no, i don't think you should do that one. "the book of daniel," it was kind of gr

napoleon did not come back from the bath of waterloo, so democrats read your history. second thing is, i think senator clinton was suffering from jet lag, god bless her, she was trying her best to give a good answer to a ridiculously insulting question. she's my law school classmate and i love her and i think she does a good job, although she's got a lot of problems on her hands. >> and she was in congo today doing important work where women are being raped and mutilated. >> terrible. >> penn, i think you'll agree with your colleagues here tonight, she's been impressive so far. >> well, yeah, but i wanted to ask a favor of james. he knows hillary clinton. if by any weird chance one in a billion chance i'm in a room with hillary clinton and i start to say something that's going to get her that mad at me. do anything you have to get me out of the room. i mean, throw a blanket over me, throw me out, shoot me, i could not stand anyone yelling at me like that. >> i've been yelled at worse than that. >> i know you have. i haven't. you have -- protect me please, i'm begging y

whether one looks at napoleon's battles, where napoleon drove his -- from the field, that individual battle does not bring a campaign to an end. it is no accident that napoleon fails treated he will finally have defeated them in a decisive battle. from that. the -- from that time friend on, there were modern means of communication and control and intelligence. in u.s. strategy of the civil war, you have all the parties. we see them using something like this as well. we get into the whole concept. somehow, until we get to world war one, the problem is converting tactical gains. failure to do so leads to rest -- leads to a still but -- leads to a stalemate. the germans still lost the war despite overrun western russia. it was developed -- the most outstanding -- for those who want further elaborations on the subject, i would recommend to you the author who is a military thinker. a couple of years ago, he started quoted folks that nobody knew. the idea being that we need to understand how to use operational. the term comes into favor in the 1980's. in the '80s, the army's focus shifts b

i'm hearing from a lot of republicans on the hill that it's dead, that na napoleon waterloo, membersll vote on it at their peril. >> health care has to be addressed in america. you have, not only republicans in the tea party types, but the unions and the democratic national party stacking the rooms, it is politically toxic, they go after each other, and it is political theater at this point. they are very concerned. but the advent of social media, you can talk too these experts and say, you can light a match, but unless the gasoline is there it won't ignite. people care about health care. >> well, i would say if they're paid protesters, they're not getting their money's worth. but i think they are going to get a bill because i think there's so much understanding on both sides that we really need health care reform in some fashion. it's just getting down to the details of what that means. >> and i'm not sure that there are somewhere -- 80% of the country still says they're happy with their health care system. one thick ipg that's-d thing that's gone wrong, we've talked nothing at all

as you probably well know, one of the great best-selling books in iran is called "my uncle napoleon," and it's basically a book about how the brits actually control everything that's going on in the country? so does it work when they say, you know, it's all this western interference that's causing our problems? >> fareed, no, i don't think it works. regime has certainly made these charges against the demonstrators and the leadership of the opposition, but what we have to remember is mousavi and others were all extremely close to khamenei. they have impeccable credentials. they were there at the beginning of the revolution, many of them were there in exile with khamenei. they are not susceptible to charges they're taking money from the cia or outside. i think when they made these charges right after the election was disputed on 12 june, they fell absolutely flat, and they arrested the british employees at their embassy in tehran. that fell flat as well. it was a strategy that's failed, and i agree with john completely. we see these cracks inside the regime which, frankly, for me two mo

now, the beagle voyage was one of many voyages sent out by the british admiral during this napoleonic period. one of the things the british decided to do after their victory in 1815 was to survey the coastlines of the world. with permission of those who owned the coastlines. and then these charts became freely available and to the credit of the british, they didn't attempt to retain this information for their own use anyway. anyone could purchase these. and they sent out a number of these vessels every single year. francis boford after whom the boford wind scale was named was running the operation at this time. it was a very competent civil service. now, they were also cheap. they paid the wages of the military officers but a naturalist, well, no, they'd give them a free berth and darwin's father footed the bill for darwin's five-year journey and someone once said it runs a $50,000 range and the family's contribution to science and darwin could have freedom and run his own research efforts. now, henslow was set out. he said i consider you to be the best qualified person i know who is

as you probably well know, one of the great best-selling books in iran is called "my uncle napoleon," and it's basically a book about how the brits actually control everything that's going on in the country. so, does it work when they say, you know, it's all this western interference that's causing our problems? >> fareed, no, i don't think it works. the regime has certainly made these charges against the demonstrators and the leadership of the opposition, but what we have to remember is mousavi and others were all extremely close to khamenei. they have impeccable credentials. they were there at the beginning of the revolution, many of them were there in exile in france with khamenei. they have absolutely no important foreign contacts. they are not susceptible to charges they're taking money from the cia or from outside. so, i think when they made these charges right after the election was disputed on 12 june, they fell absolutely flat, and they arrested the british employees at their embassy in tehran. that fell flat as well. it was a strategy that's failed, and i agree with john com

napoleon marshall resumed his law practice and 1922 became a military liaison in haiti where he workedh the poor and fought in a governing battle he came home and 19292 became a college professor at howard university and died in 1933. scott cable and resumed his baseball career batted 310-1919 and drove 1923 then drove a cab and died they do 62. roberts came home the hero and given his own parade the disabled from his injuries and could not find work arrested in 1924 because he was still wearing his uniform beyond the three months lynette and ultimately committed suicide. they traveled west as far as omaha and returned home to play at mechanics hall and that night herbert was one of the drummers to started to act strange and in the dressing room he felt that he was being persecuted singling him out with their days is and when they tried to find out what was wrong at intermission herbert said you don't treat me right still makes mistakes and you don't say nothing to him they tried to quiet him down but now he took out a knife and said i will kill anybody to disadvantage buddy launched h

he kept 10,000 volumes in this library room alone along with this chess set that once belonged to napoleone. here's richard schlesinger. >> reporter: i hope these are organized right. if you ever visit klaus biesenbach at home, don't bring him anything. wow. this is something. his new york apartment is an homage to minimalism. >> i think i'm not into decoration. i think i take objects very serious. >> reporter: there are no objects here. look around. one bedroom. one bath. three chairs and a bed. oh, and a tv. that's it. and that's fine with biesenbach. >> an object has its time, has its place, has to be perfectly place and perfectly chosen. >> reporter: he gets his fill of objects, putting them in their perfectly chosen places during the workday. >> here's another one you see. >> reporter: he's a curator at the museum of modern art. he could teach a thing or two about contrast. his apartment is almost all black-and-white. except for the occasional unwelcome bouquet. look at those flowers. i look at them and i think splash of color. >> how could i provoke klaus? you successfully did that.

and it's no accident that napoleon fails after 1809 repeatedly to bring campaigns to a successful end. thanks to the industrial revolution, the rise of mass armies of large nation states, the maturation of modern means of communication, command and control and intelligence, the concept of operational art or the phenomenon of operational art grows in importance. for example, in u.s. strategy in the civil war particularly if you look at lincoln and grant's strategy in the last year and a half where, for example, all the armies start moving the same day against lee and johnston and others. then we see van mull ca using something like this as well. we get into distributed maneuver of large masses of men across various fronts and so on until we get to world war i where the real problem is converting tactical gains into strategic objectives and getting past -- which the failure to do so leads to the stalemate on the western front. on the eastern front, it's a very different kind of war, but there again strategic objectives are not really achieved until the russian army breaks down in 1918,

yes, the same newt gingrich, once disgraced, now back on the sunday talk shows like napoleon returning from elba. >> you're asking us to trust turning power over to the government when there clearly are people in america who believe in establishing euthanasia including selective standards. >> moyers: remember, this is from the man who told the new york times in 1994 that he would use opposition to clinton's health care reform as, "a springboard to win republican control of the house." that's exactly what he did... and hopes to do again. oh, i forgot sarah palin, who, like gingrich, is also vying to speak for the extreme right of their party. she noted on her facebook page that, "the america i know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with down syndrome will have to stand in front of obama's ¡death panel'. such a system is downright evil," she said. death panel? we have nothing to fear but fear mongering itself. even in the hallowed halls of congress, the cuckoo flu seems to have reached epidemic proportions: >> this program of government option that's being touted as bein

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napoleon says when your enemies destroy themselves, get out of way. >> yeah, the name-calling is givingwe start with congress. they will be holding more of the town hall meetings in their home states today, and obama spoke to a crowd of thousands. he took on the issue of health care and what he calls scare tactics. >> the rumor circulating a lot lately is this idea that somehow the house of representatives voted for death panels that will basically pull the plug on grandma, because we decided that we don't -- it's too expensive to let her live anymore. i am not in favor of that. i just want to clear the air here. >> that town hall was far more civil than those held by arlen specter and claire mccaskill. >> if you want to be out of here, you are free to go. now, wait a minute! wait a minute! wait a minute! now, wait a minute! >> i am leaving. i have every right to leave. >> wait a minute! he has a right to leave. he is right. >> one day god is going to stand before you, and he's going to judge you, and the rest of your kroen ease up on the hill. >> i don't understand this rudeness. what

kind of leader who wants to litigate arguments and not really stand up and fight and that he is -- napoleonght now, obama's coming across as someone who wants to please everyone but fight for nothing. and interestingly enough, if that's the case, he may end up -- the man who tried to be so unlike both clinton and george bush may end up being like them in the sense that he makes himself look weaker and smaller, some degree like president clinton did at some time but alienates his own base, enthusiasm as president bush did antagonizing the middle. he is defending everything and pleasing no one. >> we will continue this conversation, guys, tomorrow. thanks very much. >>> how to spread the word about how not to spread the swine flu. the government is now running a video contest on youtube. >>> and there is another situation room, the one over at the white house. president obama has been meeting there "the situation room" with the former president bill clinton. former insider tells us what really goes on behind closed doors in that situation room? we're shopping for car insurance, and our friend

napoleon is she itchy? are we, the man joins us live, this hour, to talk to us on the best morning show on television. i can see that! >> alisyn: everybody, thanks for joining us. mike is in for dave briggs. >> wonderful to be here. >> alisyn: have you ever county the words you say in any given year. >> clayton: oh, man! >> no. >> alisyn: somebody has counted, what president obama has said, all of the words the president has said, and it is interesting see which words he favors most, which words he is omitting from his speeches and we'll tell you what it reveals and one of them, one of the findings is that he is not speaking like a war time tht president, though he is. >> clayton: and frank lund is coming up, and hayes book and coming up in a little bit and the x-factor and you go through the relationship and break up with someone and how do you mend a broken heart, the author that book will be here on our "fresh start" series. >> and there are five phases and the first one is whiplash. how quickly should y

. >> napoleon and hitler both tried and finally got their lunches. >> i never had the idea of invading russia as an enemy of the people. >> let me say one thing about this information. i spent my life falling -- when i was in russia, trying to figure out what they were talking about, if you read every day about 25 turtles everyday, this is not misinformation. they're open and talking about problems. easy enough in different places, put them together, you can figure out there hurting and they are saying they are hurting. it reminds me of dick cheney two years after the soviet union collapsed, the fact is it has collapsed, from the 90s to 2000, people selling things in the street, we went to chechnya the first time, the hats were given to them by the bank and their shoes were given to them by another company. if you look at russian soldiers, you find all kinds of different uniforms on them, one complaining about the invasion of georgia, he looked like a militia, people from georgia clothing are supposed to distributed, the russian soldiers and the ascensions, little white things around t

. >> [inaudible] -- would you because napoleon and hitler both tries, and they finally got. >> well, you know, i've never had the idea of invading russia, although i've been called an enemy of the people. [laughter] >> let me say one thing about misinformation. i've spent most of my life reading the soviet stuff and trying to figure out what the he they were taing about. i get it every day, it's about 25 journals that come in, different thingses every day, this is not misinformation. they are actually blunt and open and talking about their problems because you see enough things happening enough different places, you don't ave to be a criminologist to deterne they're hurting and they know they're hurting. the fact is it has collapsed, and the '90s until 2000, they were hurting. i mean, people selling goods in the streets, soldiers eating mushrooms for their diet. and their shoes, boots were given to them by another company because they department have any. and if youook at pictures of russian soldiers, you'll find all kinds of different uniforms about them. one complaint was they look