let me just say that regarding napolitano i don't believe that she is qualified. the statements she has been making are not reassuring to the american people. she calls terrorist acts man made disaster. now, everybody in america knows we're in a war against terror except she's not commenting about it. when she talks about it, she says things like the system worked. she says things like this was a man made disaster when it was a terrorist act. >> congressman, a lot of this trouble dates back to the bush administration doesn't it, as well? is it fair to go after her all the time? >> well, we're not in the bush administration. that was a long time ago. we are now in the obama administration and napolitano is in charge of the security of this country. homeland security. and if she can't do the job, and if she's making statements like she has been making not reassuring the american people and letting people on the watch list get on planes because they don't disseminate information that they should she should be replaced. that's it. >> but, congressman, that hasn't been

we don't know nearly enough to suggest napolitano should resign.t's absurdly premature. >> if we were to reduce people to sound bites george bush said mission accomplished. george bush said brown was doing a good job when people were drowning in katrina. we don't reduce people to a sound bite and their worst political moment. the system itself is broken. it's dysfunctional. you can't isolate that with napolitano. >> that is why we came out with the director of intelligence to coordinate all of this. and that's his responsibility. >> i'm going to have to have a quick show of hands from all of you. who believes that anyone on the top levels gets fired over this or is this just a big bureaucratic mess? anybody getting fired? >> i think -- >> nobody. >> some lower level person will be fired but the bureaucracy will still be just as incompetent and will run more of your lives every day. >> i hope it changes. >> they should staff these departments with what if not bureaucrats? political appointees? it is an odd statement. >> lively, energetic people who

what does he think of janet napolitano's controversial remarks that the system worked? and her little back pedaling today. he'll tell us if president obama's response is tough enough. >> we will continue to use every almo element of our power to defeat those that threaten us. >> larry: all that and more, next, on "larry king live." >> larry: good evening. the christmas day bomb plot story is getting more interesting by the hour. we have ed henry cnn senior white house correspondent with us from hawaii, and nic robertson senior international correspondent in london to talk about the very latest developments. cnn has obtained photos of the underwear bomb the terror suspect allegedly used to try to bring down flight 253. nic, what do these interesting to say the least photos tell us? >> they tell us this is the way the bombs were hid. i he spent a good part of today with a bomb-making expert that showed me the explosives, the petn, this powder or pastelike explosive and destructive force. what's interesting is we learned this is a very, very stable substance. you can bang

i think it was sufficient that napolitano and robert gibbs stepped up early.i think it's beneficial for the american people to realize he's watching this and being briefed on this regularly. i think that's a positive step for all americans to know. >> larry: harvey, cnn has obtained u.s. government photos of what remains of the device which the suspect try he -- tried to blow up the flight. they show singed underwear with t . would you class this as sophisticated? >> it's a new type of device peculiar to that region. yemen seems to work with petn. this type of device, they made a statement that as you know today they were experimenting with this. it certainly had enough explosive power to take down that a-330 airbus and kill all 278 passengers and 11 crew members aboard. quite frankly the machinery we have in place, the technology could not detect that, except possibly a scanning machine. certainly a puffer might have picked up some of the trace elements of it. it's frightening, larry, that eight years after 9/11 somebody could board a plane regardless of all

i think janet napolitano was taking orders. that's the scary part about this. >> i don't have any basis for knowing that somebody whispered in janet napolitano's ear to say this is what you say on sunday. i'm not that much of a conspiracy theorist. >> larry: you haven't heard the end of this. actor charlie sheen was arrested for allegedly assaulting his wife on christmas day. >> larry: welcome back. on christmas morning actor charlie sheen was arrested in aspen, colorado. charged with domestic abuse, criminal mischief, menacing and assault in the second degree. let's listen to the 911 call made by charlie's wife brooke. >> tell me exactly what happened. >> my husband had me with a knife, and i'm scared for my life, and he threatnd me. >> okay. are you guys separated right now? >> yeah. right now we have people that are separating us, but i have to file the report or else. >> are there other people there? does he still have the knife? >> yeah, he still does. but there are other people here. >> who are the other people that are t

janet napolitano raised questions when she said on cnn today that everything worked well. she was he referring in fairness to the fact everything worked well with the crew and passengers aboard that flight once this played out, certainly a lot of people wonder before that played oit, out, conversations this man allowed on the flight let alone with the explosives. the administration is facing a lot of tough questions, laurie. >> larry: that's ed henry. the passenger whose sickness triggered today's alert and police response at the detroit airport has been released from the custody of the customs border patrol and joint terrorism task force. he was making a connection through detroit and was allowed to continue to an unspecified destination. his name is not released. what's the latest travel guidance from the tsa with heightened security measures in place. we'll give you tips on our blog and we'll show you what's happening at airports around the country. we'll do that next. >> larry: let's discuss airport security. we'll check in with detroit. let's go to the l.a. internatio

and janet napolitano retracted the fact that system worked.o to sug swres we are in a huge crisis since he gave a press conference two days later, it's lunacy. let's not try to score partisan points here. and frankly, by the way l is a lapse here that occurred at the airport. if this guy really did check in with no bags and paid cash for a tirk ticket, what are you doing on a plane? there are lapses at every level. i find the gop attempt to demonize the president, it's offensive. >> if you don't think it's a rye sis, you are naive. and it's not going to adess ft. hood or ft. dix. this is not about apts. this is about ideology and the president was not want to act nothing that. and it's not funny either. >> the wish that the gop and i wish we had all the outrage when they said, we want to inspect cargo shipping con tears and the gop said it was too expensive. when the bush administration said they wanted to relinquish control to a dubai company, yeah, it's a crisis. it's not about the airport. i never said that. and until we look at it in a glo

napolitano says this is a success story. help.ost: what about the intelligence system that was already in place within the present took office, what needs to be done? caller: you are always working on improving your system, whatever it is because this is a no flawed deal. one mistake and a bunch of people died. you know what? the whole country is at fault because when the ask them what the most important thing is, they say, they list all of these other things -- health care, getting a job -- and i realize that is important, of course -- but let's face it, if we are dead how much do all of these other things matter? national security is paramount. so, when you put a guy as president who is a community organizer -- my god. what were we thinking? host: pennsylvania. charles on the democratic line. caller: how are you doing. i kind of agree with the previous callern my situation, i'm a desert storm veteran and i know a lot of times when we went in to certain areas we got information. you get the best and the nation you can but you are

napolitano will be on with john king tomorrow morning.s this make you pessimistic about where we are going with this? >> no. but i think we have to be patient with it. this is going to be a long, long struggle. we have to, as i said, grit our teeth. it eventually will die down. these things always do. there will be accidents. i was on a lufthansa flight that was hijacked on the way to egypt back to new york. the hijacker was an ethiopian who wanted to crash the plane into wall street. he got a gun through security in frankfurt because he had a hat on and put the gun underneath his hat the inspectors who were using wands and patting them down forgot to look under his hat. it was busy, a rush just like now, christmas rush. you can't stop every attack. he who defends everything defends nothing. flying is still safer than driving. we have 42,000 people a year killed on the roads. as i said, we must encounter a small risk when we travel. events like this will make it harder all the time. >> larry: harry, are you a passenger and something occur

thank you, secretary napolitano for being here. and there will be follow-up questions from several of the members of the panel. thank you. >> thank you. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >>> alex swain of congressional quarterly, thank you for joining us. >> sure. >> we want to talk about what happened of health care and what is expected tomorrow but first we will hear from senator joe lieberman when he spoke to reporters about the bill. >> it's not necessary. we have a great health insurance reform bill and the danger was some of my colleagues i think we're trying to blow it up with too much, and what happens then is you run the risk of losing everything. so i think what is beginning to emerge -- i know some people are not happy about that is a historic achievement. health care reform such as we have not seen in this country for decades. >> alex, how secure is senator lieberman's vote now? >> he apparently took the democratic caucus at a meeting at the white house today body in proposal move to impose to supporti

i saw the homeland security, napolitano is her name? host: yes. caller: make some remarks that just baffled me. i can't believe she'd come out and say that the system actually worked. and if you kind of connect the dots with not only her comments, but, you know, eric made a remark that, you know, simply stated the facts, didn't say anything more, you know? it's what he's not saying that skerns me. but concern seems to me like these top officials, even something that president obama said, you know, really shocked me, he made a comment a couple of months back where he said a few weeks, i'm not sure when, but he said something that he had planned to do something, you know, regarding this terrorism issue, but not till america knew what it was to fail. that may not be verbatim, but he said something, that you know, he was going to do something once he realized that, you know, what it was like to fail. host: new york's peter king weighed in on the not over the weekend. he was a guest on "face the nation." >> i think we have to face up to this reality. w

janet napolitano and rich mcconnell.na republican jim demint. on fox news sundayç pennsylvan democratic senator arlen spector and robert menendez. and the chair of the democratic congressional campaign committee chris van hollen. on "face the nation" you will have robert gibbs, house majority whip james clyburn and peter king the ranking member of the house homeland security member. and cnn state of the union hosted by john king will have secretary napolitano, andrew card and john podesto. and ed rendell and mitch daniels. you can listen to all five of the sunday morning talk shows starting at noon eastern on c-span radio here in washington, d.c. nationwide on x.m. satellite channel 312 and on the web at c-span radio.org. and you can follow us on facebook and twitter. >> in the mid 1990's omar wasow was one of the 50 people po watch. he has helped found to charter school and explained new technologies. tonight he talks about his current studies at march srard and what is ahead -- at harvard and what is ahead. >> this th

i just want to give you one napolitano example. -- one little example the famous migrant mother was the product of her taking either six or seven photographs of that same group of people and working your way gradually and carefully to the ones she liked best and that does that count the exposures she would have thrown away. should carefully planned every photograph and often made one doesn't exposures of the single cdn those who observed her in the field unanimously remarked at how slow issue was and her tempo was over determined by her disability and her barge cameras and the need to calculate like there were no way to leaders yet in the 1930's. many experts photographers can appear to work instinctively because they operate quickly as a result of years of practice. lange have the speed and hurt by but not in her body. shoe roach extensively of economics and sociology and listened to his explanations before picking up a camera parker her every exposure in the darkroom was a result of steady and practice. is this true he can characterize her work as a distinctive but wrong. many look at

i want to thank you secretary napolitano.as you know we just talked last week and the week or so and i'll say what i said then and i want to thank you for your great help in addressing the flooding in the red river valley for both minnesota and north dakota and was really impressed by the work of people in your department. .. concern about the no-fly list and some of the secure flight issues and i'm not going to go at that again. i did want to touch on something i know was touched on briefly about the accidental disclosure of transportation safety administration airport screening procedures when that confidential document was placed on line. i know that you said to an earlier question that it didn't represent a significant security risk but they did violate the standards of your department, and i was just wondering if -- what steps or taking to make sure these kinds of disclosures don't happen again. obviously they are of concern. >> yes, senator and several things, one is we asked the inspector general to look at the entire

i want to thank you secretary napolitano.s you know we just talked last week and the week or so and i'll say what i said then and i want to thank you for your great help in addressing the flooding in the red river valley for both minnesota and north dakota and was really impressed by the work of people in your department. .. concern about the no-fly list and some of the secure flight issues and i'm not going to go at that again. i did want to touch on something i know was touched on briefly about the accidental disclosure of transportation safety administration airport screening procedures when that confidential document was placed on line. i know that you said to an earlier question that it didn't represent a significant security risk but they did violate the standards of your department, and i was just wondering if -- what steps or taking to make sure these kinds of disclosures don't happen again. obviously they are of concern. >> yes, senator and several things, one is we asked the inspector general to look at the entire i

chairman and thank you secretary napolitano. just a brief question. this is on the western hemisphere travel initiative that went into effect on june 1st in buffalo new york and rounder nor them border. we have seen a precipitous drop off on border crossings in the good part of that, at least the people there believe is because of the lack of education. that canadians believe they need a passport to travel across the border. obviously they don't. was put together to make easy to travel across the border but the problem is they believe that and a good number of our americans believe the same. western new york and buffalo depends on cross-border traffic. it is probably the number-one thing in their economies so would you be willing to work with me and commit to working with you and your canadian cully to get an education campaign on both sides of the border informing people with the requirements are of witi that you don't need a passport and it is not very hard to travel across the border because it is hurting our economy up there pretty badly. >> senat

i think it was the right decision from secretary of napolitano to request that dhs inspector general investigate this incident. the investigation is an important first step in learning the details that will be essential in helping tsa improve procedures for handling and posting sensitive material. however, as i have said before, to get tsa to improve its operational performance in all areas end all levels of management, it is the central tsa have a permanent, effective leadership. the president's nominated errol southers and his dedication will strengthen our whole up land security efforts. -- our homeland security efforts. an incident like this will be less likely to happen. nevertheless, today's hearing provides us encumbers with an opportunity to express our concern about what tsa plans to do. i'm sure we'll have followup briefings and another hearing to review the inspector general's report and to assess the situation going for it. madame chair, there are questions that i have after we have heard from our witness that will more or less enlighten us on this situation. i am concern

. -- napolitano last night. the bomb-sniffing dogs and behavior condition officers.hey look for indications of terrorism. host: the threat level is not going up. the threat level is a orange which is high but it is not going up. what are your thoughts as to what's going through the obama administration? guest: they are looking at whether the color-coded to alert system should be revised. the threat level will not be raised for it right now, it is @ aren't which is the next highest level for the next highest level is red. it has been at this level since 2006. it is understandable that the level is not raised because there can be decreases and increases in certain procedures. you will see increased security measures which are appropriate. host: is the color-coded threat level more for the government so that everybody their nose how to proceed? is it more for the public so the public knows what the government is doing? guest: that as part of the problem. it is unclear who is intended for. it is intended for both government and the average citizen. it is unclear, i would

i saw the homeland security napolitano's her name?st: yes. >> caller: made some remanages that just -- remarks that just baffled me. i can't believe she'd come out and say that the system actually worked. and if you kind of, you know, connect the dots, you know, with not only her comments, but, you know, eric holder made a remark that, you know, simply stated the facts. didn't say anything more, you know? and it's what he's not saying that concerns me, you know? he said if this would have taken place, that many people would have been killed. but the concern, you know, to me seems like there's, these officials, even something that president obama said that, you know, really shocked me, he made a comment a couple months back where he said or a few weeks, i'm not sure when, but he said something that he had planned to do something, you know, regarding this terrorism issue but not until america knew what it was to fail. you know? that may not be verbatim, but he said something that, you know, he was going to do something once he realized

one thing i should undercore score is what undersecretary napolitano underscored and that's that it is incumbent upon passengers to do what they can. one of the lessons we learned from 9/11 is that passengers can be and ultimately must be their own last line of defense. we know in this instant yesterday that once passengers noticed that something was going wrong with this passenger, he was jumped immediately by a number of passengers. we need to take our own defense into our hands and beef up security force that is may or may not be present on the flight. one thoft things that wasn't reported is whether there were air marshals on the flight. i gather there wasn't one. we won't know whether there is -- whether they are or not, passengers need to be their own security by taking steps against someone who is perceived to be a threat. that's exactly what happened with this flight yesterday. host: is there reports of air marshals flying on international plights? guest: one of the things we learned is there were not only 11 air marshals covering the country on 911 fen the exact number flying

i want to thank you, secretary napolitano, for being here. you know, we just talked last week or so in the commerce committee. and i will say what i said then. i want to thank you for your great help in addressing the flooding in the red river valley for both minnesota and north dakota and was really impressed by the work of the people in your department. and then secondly, again, one other thing that i didn't mention in commerce at the last oversight hearing in may was about a month before the western hemisphere travel initiative took effect and we had serious backlogs of travelers in minnesota who were suddenly going to need passports or other documents to get to canada, which had not been required before. and this is going on when we had a decline in the tourism industry all over the country. and i have learned from talking to people in minnesota that the implementation of the western hemisphere travel initiative have been much smoother in our state. which is a good thing, madam secretary, and they were pleased with how things went in a ti

. >> ifill: but by this mning napolitano did concede tt system failure. >> i don't any think secretary of homeland security wouldsit before y to say she was happy that someone got aboard a u.s. bound air carri as this individual did, carrying the material tt this individual was carrying. so have a lot of work to do. >> ifl: that statement came in the wake of reports tha abdulmutallabhad been barred from reenteing britai and that he was not on a similar li here. his mily in nigeria said today the m's father, a prominen banker had warned u.s. ahorities in octor out his son's increangly extremi views. almost immeately afr the detroit incident, authories in the u.s. d abroad steppedup security during the bus holiday travel season. >> defitely a little bit more stressful flying today than i thought it was going to be. >> ifill: in it u.s. the transptation security adinistration began requiring passenge on flights from overseas to be screened a second time at the gate. >> rather safe than sorry any time, yeah. >> haveou gotten in -- you shouldn't have any proem with it. >> yeah. >> ifill: an

. -- napolitano last night. the bomb-sniffing dogs and behavior condition officers.hey look for indications of terrorism. host: the threat level is not going up. the threat level is a orange which is high but it is not going up. what are your thoughts as to what's going through the obama administration? guest: they are looking at whether the color-coded to alert system should be revised. the threat level will not be raised for it right now, it is @ aren't which is the next highest level for the next highest level is red. it has been at this level since 2006. it is understandable that the level is not raised because there can be decreases and increases in certain procedures. you will see increased security measures which are appropriate. host: is the color-coded threat level more for the government so that everybody their nose how to proceed? is it more for the public so the public knows what the government is doing? guest: that as part of the problem. it is unclear who is intended for. it is intended for both government and the average citizen. it is unclear, i would

secretary napolitano has been involved with me on this investigation. we've been speaking daily regarding this. we spoke about a half hour before i came up here for this testimony so i would not want to leave, you know, any indication or have you under the impression that she has not been intimately involved with this. we've been talking daily about this issue. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i look forward to meeting with secretary napolitano. i'm sure she will meet with the committee. thank you very much. >> thank you, mr. chairman. and i know there is an investigation underway and the u.s. attorney's office is looking at that. as a former federal prosecutor i know they will do a thorough and diligent job in this case. mr. sullivan, you brief us on a monthly basis on intelligence briefing, threat briefing. i don't need to emphasize to you the threat here. it's the first state dinner that's been pointed out. the prime minister of india who has also been a target was at this state dinner. india, which has been threatened by pakistan on the eve of the presid

homeland security and governmental affairs committee on september 30, of this year, dhs secretary napolitanonoted that ina is quote, currently undergoing an important realignment to strengthen the delivery of useful, actionable intelligence to state and local law enforcement, based on their particular needs. here's the question. have you been briefed on this realignment? and do you support it? >> yes, madam chairman i have been briefed. and the realignment is still ongoing. it has not been finalized, but bart johnson did brief me on what he is proposing to do. at the top level, i think it makes -- it makes sense, but i would like to reserve the right, if confirmed, to be able to make adjustments to that. and so i would prefer to come up and brief you after i'm confirmed, if i'm confirmed on where that is. >> if i understand you correctly, you are saying you have some input into the realignment? >> yes, madame. >> and therefore it is not finalized. we will take you at your word, because i think it is fair to say that there are some weaknesses in your area. and we would like to see them correc

well, president bush can distinguish himself from the last administration by firing, napolitano. that's what he should do. and, that would show that he is taking a different approach than president bush. >> host: this is because of the specific incident or how she has responded to it so far. >> caller: sure. both. because of the specific incident and because of how she handled it so far. this is obviously a failure on the part of the department of homeland security. and, when things like this happen, someone should get fired. >> host: what do you think it says about intelligence gathering and information-sharing a concern even stemming out of the 9/11 attacks? >> caller: it shows incompetence somewhere along the line. and i think the administrator at the top of whichever department is supposed to be responsible for that, should be fired whenever an incident this important happens. >> host: the president yesterday made a brief statement concerning the information he received from a briefing that took place on tuesday. here's little bit of that statement. >> i wanted to speak to th

ongoing and i spoke again with attorney general eric holder, secretary of homeland security janet napolitano and john brennan. i asked them to keep -- continue monitoring the situation, to keep the american people and members of course congress informed. here's what we know so far. on christmas day, northwest airlines flight 253 was en route from always always -- amsterdam, netherlands, to detroit. as the plane made its final approach to detroit metropolitan airport a passenger alleged tried to ignite an explosive device on his body, setting off a fire. thanks to the quick, heroic actions of passengers and crew, the passenger was immediately subdued, the fire put out and the plane landed safely. the suspect is now in custody charged with attempting to destroy an aircraft. a full investigation has been launched into this attempted act of terrorism and we will not rempt until we find all who are involved and hold them accountable. this was a serious reminder of the nature of the danger we face and of those who threaten our homeland. had the suspect succeeded in bringing down that plane it coul

napolitano was asked about this.rity has never been put at risk, and the document that was posted was out of date. but the posting did not meet the standards of what should be available on the internet, and not available on the internet. we have already initiated personnel actions against the individuals involved in this. we have instituted the internal review to see what else will need to be done so that this never happens again. and not just the gsa -- tsa, but all of the components. we have one of the largest department to make certain that we are being rigorous, and very disciplined on what is posted. guest: the most important thing that she said there, i thought, was that this was out of date. there have been some changes that have been made. this is in the ordinary course and i believe that there will be more. precisely because this makes it more difficult for people to be able to count on policies in the old manual. obviously, this did not meet the standards for publication. he did not publish things containin

we put together and have worked with secretary napolitano to form within fema a working group whose solewe are addressing children issues from preparedness grants, training, exercising, all the way through response recovery activities. we continue to work on these issues, everything from some of the issues with unaccompanied children -- all right, working with the center for missing and exploited children, establishing ai] childç locator center, worg with some of our programs like citizen core where we have a community response team that now has programs designed for teenagers. also looking at how we incorporate this across state and local partners. daycare centers in particular are a challenge because in a hurricane, these will be closed down as people realize with parents when the evacuation order is issued but an earthquake could happen during this time frames. we have had other incidents when children are in school. we know if people don't have good family communication plans and they don't know where the day care centers and schools are doing, it can cause stress to the families we

napolitano was asked about this.> the security has never been put at risk, and the document that was posted was out of date. but the posting did not meet the standards of what should be available on the internet, and not available on the internet. we have already initiated personnel actions against the individuals involved in this. we have instituted the internal review to see what else will need to be done so that this never happens again. and not just the gsa -- tsa, but all of the components. we have one of the largest department to make certain that we are being rigorous, and very disciplined on what is posted. guest: the most important thing that she said there, i thought, was that this was out of date. there have been some changes that have been made. this is in the ordinary course and i believe that there will be more. precisely because this makes it more difficult for people to be able to count on policies in the old manual. obviously, this did not meet the standards for publication. he did not publish things

white house advisor to full advisor and then secretary chertoff and then secretary napolitano. from where we started to where we are today is really dramatic. as you know the government moves slowly and you can't turn things on a dime. i think this episode shows that there can still be better intelligence sharing but i wonder whether we're trying to set a standard where you can prevent all risks and what you hear repeatedly from homeland security is you can't mitigate all the risk. you can't pre or the. it's the risk management. and as your earlier caller pointed out, you want to do it in a framework of who we are as americans. do we want to become a defensive state all the time where a lot of our rights are lost. host: and the idea of turf, of protecting the individual turf. do you find that sense of turf for homeland security still? guest: not as much as in the early days when all these agencies were brought together, one individual said to me, you know, this is a type of person who is working for the f.b.i., not the same type of person who joins customs and border protection

before the homeland security and government affairs committee on september 38, this year secretary napolitano and noted that ina quote matt currently undergoing an important to realize it to strengthen the delivery of useful actionable intelligence to state and local law-enforcement based on their particular needs. here is the question. have you been briefed on this realignment and do you support? >> yes. roi have been briefed. at it has not been finalized by half and briefed on what's he is proposing to do. of the top-level it makes sense but i would like to reserve the right if confirmed to make adjustments sorrow prefer to come up and brief you after i am confirmed if i am on where that is. >> if i understand you correctly, you were saying you will have some input into the right -- realignment and it is not finalized? >> we will take you at your word because i think it is fair to say there is some weaknesses in your area and we would like to see them corrected. so any correction you could bring about could we very important and we would like to have you discussed that with us the fed is ag

investigation is ongoing and i spoke again this morning with attorney general eric holder and janet napolitanoand my advisor john brennan. i asked them to keep and continue monitoring the situation and to keep the american people and members of congress informed. here is what we know so far. on christmas day, northwest airlines flight 253 was on route from amsterdam to detroit. as the plane made its final approach to detroit, a passenger allegedly tried to ignite an explosive device on his body, setting off a fire. thanks to the quick and heroic actions of passengers and crew, the suspect was immediately subdued and the fire was put out in the plane landed safely. the suspect is in custody and has been charged with attempting to destroy an aircraft. a full investigation has been launched into this attempted act of terrorism and we will not rest until we find all who were involved and hold them accountable. this was a serious reminder of the dangers we face and the nature of those who threaten our homeland. the suspect succeeded in bringing down that plane. it could have killed -- if the suspec

and janet napolitano herself, pick of the head of homeland security, says al qaeda cells are everywhere in this country. then an interesting article that appeared november 29 in "the washington post" about two yemeni brothers. one has been incarcerated in gtmo for eight years, and the other one still lives in yemen. the one in yemen was says his brother, who has been here for eight years -- look, when president obama says he is going to close gtmo, we thought they were going to release the prisoners and just close down the operation. but it gtmo prisoners are simply transferred to the united states, that will increase by hatred toward the united states and actually serve as an additional recruiting tool for people involved in terrorism. this is coming out of the mouths of people who have loved ones who are terrorists themselves. that is my big concern. host: oregon online. sam. guest: good morning, sam. caller: the morning. i'm a first-time caller -- i have been watching this program cents above lewinsky scandal. the best show on tv. guest: it is. it is great. caller: i don't have much

moreover as secretary napolitano has said once the suspect attempted to take down flight 253, after hislear passengers and crew of homeland security systems and the aviation security took fifth all three factions but what is clear is also this: when our government has information on an extremist and the information is not shared and acted upon as it should have been so that this extremist boards a plane with dangerous explosives that could have cost nearly 300 lives a systemic failure has occurred and i consider that totally unacceptable. the reviews i ordered will tell more. but what already is apparent is there was a mix of human and systemic failure that contributed to this potential catastrophic breach of security. we need to learn from this episode and act quickly to fix the flaws in the system because the securities at stake and lives are at stake. i fully understand even when every person charged with ensuring security does what they are trained to do, even one of the system works as intended there is still no 100% guarantee of success. if this should only compel us to work even

we gave secretary of soliton of a very hard time when it happened to her -- secretary janet napolitanovery hard time when that happened to her. the others are very much on the way. today's hearing is about oversight and responsibility. five years after the intelligence reform and terrorism prevention act was adopted, the so-called line/11 legislation, in this hearing we are going to focus on a very important part of a comprehensive moments in security framework architecture, which is how are we doing at stopping terrorists from entering our country. obviously this is a very important homeland security architecture facing our government in the aftermath of 9/11. we will hear from key government officials on the forefront of the efforts to achieve this mission. their efforts are daunting, complex, and the consequences of a single mistake is a pressure that i know that they continually live with and that weighs on all of us in the government as we tried to do a better job in protecting our people and in the nature of terrorists that are willing to attack at home. you cannot, after having

secretary napolitano has been intimately involved on this investigation.e have been speaking daily regarding this. we spoke about 30 minutes before i came up here for this testimony. i would not want to leave any indication or have you under the impression that she has not been intimately involved in this. we have been speaking daily. >> thank you, mr. chairman -- mr. sullivan. >> the gentleman for texas -- from taxes for five minutes. >> i am understand there is an investigation and the attorney's office and i know they will do a very thorough and a diligent job. you brief us on a monthly basis in an intelligence threat briefing. i do not need to emphasize to you that right here as the first state dinner. the prime minister of india who has also been a target was at the state dinner. india was threatened by pakistan on the eve of him giving a speech on afghanistan and pakistan. you have two major targets of the white house. the idea that a couple could get in without their names being on the list, without any sort of vetting, without their social security

napolitano should be fired from her comment. she's trying to backtrack this is not what she meant.at she meant. glm >> host: okay. mark was refers to the comment on the sunday morning talk show, talking about how the response was and she says that she's was taken out the of context. this is from the "washington times." a photograph of her saying our system did not work in this instance. she made the comments yesterday. no one is happy or satisfied with that. an extensive review is under way. she made the comments on the "today" show yesterday morning. we'll go to ray on the democrats. >> caller: how are you doing in >> host: fine. thanks. what's the difference between privacy and security? >> caller: well, i think the balance is going to have to more towards privacy. because i think there's not much you can do more in the way of security really beyond the scanners. after that, you're always, you know, i think you're always fighting the last war. if you are going to start filling in the limbs or breast implants pretty soon. those scanners aren't going on to work. then you will have