ideologies, whether nationalism, communism, or even al qaeda in egypt, so what happens there happens and napp and -- to a huge part of the world. i do not need to remind you that there is a war going on in iraq, oil supplies from the middle east, so the matter how much we try to concentrate on other things, being too preoccupied by the middle east, it is a part of the world that is absolutely essential to western interests, and for us, as europeans, in my part of the world, as well, so in north africa, it could wash all over europe. tavis: you argue quite persuasively and aggressively in this book, that is to say, you debunk this notion that democracy is inherently decide to cooperate and work with each other. there is no reason to believe that if egypt moves and the direction that we think they should move that they are under a leadership that will be cooperative to us. >> absolutely. i think, quite likely, it will be the reverse. i think there is a naÏve assumption in the united states that the answer to your foreign- policy problems was the spread of democracy. i think the spread of democr

i want to particularly acknowledge diane robinson napp wife of g.w. president. for her work and involvement in leading this effort. thank you very much. we are honored to have here today two of our country's leading health and nutrition advocates, secretary of health and human services kathleen sebelius, and secretary of agriculture, tom vilsack. as a state insurance commissioner, governor of kansas, and today as the country's highest ranking health official, secretary sebelius has been a leader on health care, family and senior issues for more than 20 years. secretary sebelius is guiding the implementation of the historic affordable care act. she also is at the forefront of the obama administration's efforts to build a 21st century health care system for putting a new focus on prevention to promoting electronic health records to expanding the primary care work force. the partners across the cabinet, she has launched new efforts to make government work better for the american people, including working with secretary vilsack to build a 2112 century food safety sy

particularly acknowledge diane robinson napp wife of g.w. president. for her work and involvement in leading this effort. thank you very much. we are honored to have here today two of our country's leading health and nutrition advocates, secretary of health and human services kathleen sebelius, and secretary of agriculture, tom vilsack. as a state insurance commissioner, governor of kansas, and today as the country's highest ranking health official, secretary sebelius has been a leader on health care, family and senior issues for more than 20 years. secretary sebelius is guiding the implementation of the historic affordable care act. she also is at the forefront of the obama administration's efforts to build a 21st century health care system for putting a new focus on prevention to promoting electronic health records to expanding the primary care work force. the partners across the cabinet, she has launched new efforts to make government work better for the american people, including working with secretary vilsack to build a 2112 century food safety sy

i want to particularly acknowledge diane robinson napp wife of g.w. president. for her work and involvement in leading this effort. thank you very much. we are honored to have here today two of our country's leading health and nutrition advocates, secretary of health and human services kathleen sebelius, and secretary of agriculture, tom vilsack. as a state insurance commissioner, governor of kansas, and today as the country's highest ranking health official, secretary sebelius has been a leader on health care, family and senior issues for more than 20 years. secretary sebelius is guiding the implementation of the historic affordable care act. she also is at the forefront of the obama administration's efforts to build a 21st century health care system for putting a new focus on prevention to promoting electronic health records to expanding the primary care work force. the partners across the cabinet, she has launched new efforts to make government work better for the american people, including working with secretary vilsack to build a 2112 century food safety sy