we should also disclose that our lovely karen finney is on the board of naral. for joining us. i'm endlessly confused by the story. why is the administration doing what it's doing? >> i know, it's like every day is freaky friday on this story, alex, isn't it? you know i'm sympathetic to the idea that we all want our kids to come talk to us if they get into trouble. unfortunately, that's not the job of the administration, right now. the real question is, whether we're going to have this science-based policies that we were promised by this administration, what we know and what has got the judge so up in arms is that plan b and other morning after pills are safe. they've been tested extensively. they're safe for all women. teen pregnancy, unintended teen pregnancy is dangerous and it's a problem. we have a solution. and it needs to be implemented. >> karen, i mean i, on some part i've been trying to sort of assess the political calculus here. the administration was under a lot of fire for its contraception mandate. so on this sort of happened around the same time.

naral said. this quote: justice was served to kermit gosnell today and he will pay the price for the atrocities he committed. we hope that the lessons of the trial too not fade with the verdict. anti-choose politicians and unrelenting efforts to deny access to safe and fair abortion care back alley butchers like kermit gosnell. it's a peak before row v. weighed made legal a woman's right to make her own choices. your thoughts about this trial and its verdict. >> do you know, bret, it's really fascinating to me because we have been fighting the abortion industry for decades over clinic regulations. this abortion industry is unregulated unsupervised and unrepentant. they keep saying today the national abortion federation says nothing he needs to be improved in abortion clinics. what kermit gosnell's clinic shows that was the face of legal abortion. there are 15 investigations going on right now into legal abortion clinics across this country that have unsanitary and terrible conditions for women. w

>> i serve on the board of naral pro-choice america.to tell you, the gall, who the hell does that man think he is sitting there in a chamber of the congress to tell this woman what her decision should have been? that is the ultimate hypocrisy of the republican party. if that isn't getting all up in your business, i don't know what is. as you say, it was a unanimous medical decision. he has no way of knowing what that woman went through. i've had friends who had to go through that. it is heartbreaking. it is the most difficult discussion that a woman will have with her doctor and family and a terribly hard decision. the way these guys demagogue, remember, that hearing was all male, sitting there telling this woman what she should or shouldn't have done. >> it was astonishing. >> disgusting. >> it was astonishing. nia malika, is this what reince priebus meant when he said we should make a positive appeal to women? >> i don't think that's what he meant. the odd use of the word, we, shouldn't we wait? as if he should be in on these decision

. >> sure, absolutely this is a really disingenuous argument because naral and now, and planned parenthood have never met an abortion restriction they are willing to support. every time you see common sense solutions put on the table they come out and they-- . >> brown: but let me -- >> here is the thing, jeff, if i can make an analogy. this isn't a question of access. for example, we could have 20 more restaurants in america, we could have all the restaurants that you want, if you didn't have the department of public health to oversee and to come in and do inspections. but then would you have a lot more food poisoning. and that is what you see in the abortion industry today. yes, we have back alley a, bos and they are run by big a kbortion in this country. >> brown: is the focus in the states precisely because of the dissatisfaction on your side with what is happening in the courts? >> well, this, what is happening out there in our culture today is a grass roots uprising. where you are seeing a response to a completely out of control abortion industry. just in the last six months we've se

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naral called him a butcher. on this floor last week gosnell's action were decried as an outrage, a violation of everything we hold dear. madam president, kermit gosnell has only been sentenced to life in prison and condemned as a monster for doing things for which had he done them just a few seconds earlier or a few centimeters in a different direction would have caused that those same voices might have hailed him as a hero and not as a monster. remember, president obama himself while serving in the state legislature of illinois voted against legislation that would have protected the civil and constitutional rights of infants, human beings born alive . at a recent hearing in the florida state legislature, a planned parenthood representative refused even to acknowledge that newborn babies have a right to life. in recent weeks undercover videos have caught abortion clinics around the country casually offering to kill infants born alive. and just this week evidence emerged about similar abuses at a clinic in texas.