this isn't narcissistic. you're probably that. i am that. >> narcissistic is a disorder. self-centered -- >> a good form of narcissism. >> you think so? let's do a little bit on your men before we run out of time. you were married to paul simon. >> you're kidding. >> i went to college with paul simon. >> how was that for you? >> we used to hear him playing his guitar on the library steps at queens college. >> he said artie garfunkle's bar mitzvah was standing room only. >> i mean -- that lasted a little while. i remember when you were married to him. >> paul was great. >> are you friends with him now? >> that's complicated. we've moved on. >> yeah. has he come to see the show? >> no. i mean, there's nothing in it that, you know, would be bad. i'm very -- i mean, i admire paul. i'm, you know, i had a really -- some of our relationship was fantastic. >> yeah. she's had such a fascinating life. we could have talked for hours. >>> "good morning america's" robin roberts on a search for a new gma co-host. >> i am not my hair. i am a soul that lies within, and that's it. no more

was it just that he was so narcissistic? how did you develop a rapport with him? what was it like? >> sure. he was also very easy to speak with. when i first met with him in prison i was very nervous. i had never been inside a prison before. i had no idea what to expect. because i knew he had denied having stolen the books in court i thought he might be a little belligerent or angry. i did not know. it did not help that they kept me waiting for two hours. he was so open about this story. it really made it quite easy to talk to him. i had never spent time with an ex-convict before or somebody who, to my knowledge, was committing crimes a lot. [laughter] so, you know, i think in the beginning it was of little awkward for me, and i was nervous and did not know what to expect. we got into a rhythm of, you know, a pattern of talking about what books he was reading, what research she was doing, and what may have happened in the last week or so. for a while we were making every weekend at a cafe in union square, and then he would be a way, as you would say it in prison. across the bay, sa

>> rush thinks somebody's narcissistic?yes, yes, i know, the chutzpa. >> he's a wonderful entertainer, rush. i think that's a very funny comment. well done, rush. >> i don't think he meant it to be funny. >> he is. he does. isn't he one of the highest paid entertainers? >> yes. >> so he's an entertainer. >> i think he's worth, like, going to be making or made $400 million. >> right. so that -- yes. the people of the people, rush, one of us, yeah. those are the people that really piss me off, to be honest. i totally understand people who are angry and are fearful. i understand people who church is a huge part of their life. i understand people not wanting their daughters to watch mtv. i understand and have empathy for all those people. the people that come along and make use of those people's fears and insecurities to make money or to make something, a position for them, you know, more palatable, those people are shame, shame. >> you want to name names? >> rush. we're talking rush. >> who else? >> you know what? pretty much

this isn't narcissistic. you're probably that. i am that. >> narcissistic is a disorder. >> a good form of narcissism. >> you think so? how about -- let's do a little bit on your men before we run out of time. you were married to paul simon. >> you're kidding. >> i went to college with paul simon. >> how was that? >> we used to hear him playing his guitar on the library steps. >> he said the bar mitzvah was standing room only. >> how did that -- that lasted a little while. i remember when you were married to him. >> that was great. >> are you friends with him now? >> that's complicated because we've moved on. >> has he come to see the show? >> no. >> no? >> i mean, there's nothing in it that, you know, would be bad. i'm very -- i mean, i admire paul. you know, i had a really -- some of our relationship was fantastic. >> just before we go, what about this other guy who left you for a man? >> uh-huh. what about him? >> did you have any signs he was gay? i'm always interested in these stories from the women who were married to gay gu

>> rush thinks somebody's narcissistic?yes, yes, i know, the chutzpa. >> he's a wonderful entertainer, rush. i think that's a very funny comment. well done, rush. >> i don't think he meant it to be funny. >> he is. he does. isn't he one of the highest paid entertainers? >> yes. >> so he's an entertainer. >> i think he's worth, like, going to be making or made $400 million. >> right. so that -- yes. the people of the people, rush, one of us, yeah. those are the people that really piss me off, to be honest. i totally understand people who are angry and are fearful. i understand people who church is a huge part of their life. i understand people not wanting their daughters to watch mtv. i understand and have empathy for all those people. the people that come along and make use of those people's fears and insecurities to make money or to make something, a position for them, you know, more palatable, those people are shame, shame. >> you want to name names? >> rush. we're talking rush. >> who else? >> you know what? pretty much

this isn't narcissistic. you're probably that. i am that. >> narcissistic is a disorder. >> a good form of narcissism. >> you think so? how about -- let's do a little bit on your men before we run out of time. you were married to paul simon. >> you're kidding. >> i went to college with paul simon. >> how was that? >> we used to hear him playing his guitar on the library steps. >> he said the bar mitzvah was standing room only. >> how did that -- that lasted a little while. i remember when you were married to him. >> that was great. >> are you friends with him now? >> that's complicated because we've moved on. >> has he come to see the show? >> no. >> no? >> i mean, there's nothing in it that, you know, would be bad. i'm very -- i mean, i admire pa paul. you know, i had a really -- some of our relationship was fantastic. >> just before we go, what about this other guy who left you for a man? >> uh-huh. what about him? >> did you have any signs he was gay? i'm always interested in these stories from the women who were married to gay

this isn't narcissistic. you're probably that. >> narcissistic is a disorder.f narcissism. >> you think so? let's do a little bit on your men before we run out of time. you were married to paul simon. >> you're kidding. >> i went to college with paul simon. >> how was that for you? >> we used to hear him playing his guitar on the library steps. >> he said bar mitzvah was standing room only. >> i mean -- that lasted a little while. i remember when you were married to him. >> paul was great. >> are you friends with him now? >> that's complicated. we've moved on. >> yeah. has he come to see the show? >> no. >> no? >> i mean, there's nothing in it that, you know, would be bad. i'm very -- i mean, i admire paul. i'm, you know, i had a really -- some of our relationship was fantastic. >> yeah. she's had such a fascinating life. we could have talked for hours. >>> "good morning america's" robin roberts on a search for a new "gma" co-host. % >>> i am not my -- i am a soul that lies within, and that's it. no more wig. not going to do it. >> how did you deci

. >> the press reports quoted unnamed mccain aides calling you a diva, a whack job, a narcissist. why do you think these people were trying to destroy your reputation? >> for some people, this is a business, and if failure in this business was going to reflect poorly on them, they had to pack their own parachutes and protect themselves and their reputations so they wouldn't be blamed. i'll take the blame, though, because i know at the end of the day what the truth is and if it makes them feel better to be able to say, she's the one who caused the downfall because she had a lousy interview one day, then so be it. >> it wasn't just one interview. it was a series of incoherent sentences and lack of any kind of -- [ laughter ] it was, sorry, ann. her syntax alone would drive you crazy. >> you're doing an excellent job on summarizing the mainstream media. i disagree with everything. >> we know that. >> she explained beautifully why she left the governorship. she's done going a lot, wrote the book. she's not going to job centers because this is a book tour, not a campaign for president

inner side, which is more altruistic, selfless, and another side of us that can be a bit more narcissistic, more selfish. and jon was speaking from the heart. when he goes back into the limelight, will he still be in touch with that inner voice of consciousness? what he said last night was absolutely insince absolutely sincere. but he should be judged in light of his actions and not in light of his comments. words are nice, but actions are everything. no matter how famous you are or rich you are, are you a success in life if the people that mean the most to you think the least of you. and it's not this audience that matters the most to jon and not the tlc audience, it's the children. they're the ones whose respect he most wants. >> very good advice. rabbi shmuley boteach, thank you so much for taking time to be with us tonight. we really appreciate it. and i'm sure jon really appreciates your advice to him as well. thank you. >>> tonight, just released disturbing video of anna nicole smith. >> you know how when you're having gas and you feel it and it's like, ow! >> that's your baby kickin

. >> the press reports quoted unnamed mccain aides calling you a diva, a whack job, a narcissist. why do you think these people were trying to destroy your reputation? >> for some people, this is a business, and if failure in this business was going to reflect poorly on them, they had to pack their own parachutes and protect themselves and their reputations so they wouldn't be blamed. i'll take the blame, though, because i know at the end of the day what the truth is and if it makes them feel better to be able to say, she's the one who caused the downfall because she had a lousy interview one day, then so be it. >> it wasn't just one interview. it was a series of incoherent sentences and lack of any kind of -- [ laughter ] it was, sorry, ann. her sin tax alone would drive you crazy. >> you're doing an excellent job on summarizing the mainstream media. i disagree with everything. >> we know that. >> she explained beautifully why she left the governorship. she's done going a lot, wrote the book. she's not going to job centers because this is a book tour, not a campaign for president