is quite clear how the media tell the story that if you are to occupy time or space in the media narrative in order to become part of what we see a and read every day, you have to be coming your desire your achievements have to be over the top of a larger scale than typical. a talk about sports fans, it is not enough to be just a casual fan. you cannot just go to games and sit in buy a few souvenirs. it is expected and affirmed by the narrative that you have to be the super fan that attends every tailgate party to buy every last drop of gear and then as a negative offshoot, if your team does poorly, you feel as though your allegiance is not justified and you do you feel that the representation of the fans who are throwing things and over the top that way, is that a positive representation, or -- >> guest: ing well, certainly the behavior isn't wonderful, but i think that what happens in going back to the idea of gatekeeping is that there are, you know, maybe other fans in the stands who maybe are somewhat energized or not being as aggressive or wearing gear, but the reason that the folkse

is quite clear how the media tell the story that if you are to occupy time or space in the media narrative in order to become part of what we see a and read every day, you have to be coming your desire your achievements have to be over the top of a larger scale than typical. a talk about sports fans, it is not enough to be just a casual fan. you cannot just go to games and sit in buy a few souvenirs. it is expected and affirmed by the narrative that you have to be the super fan that attends every tailgate party to buy every last drop of gear and then as a

it is a story telling thatac draws people into the principal's so the biblicalrrat narrative so what would haves been if we were bettertual storytellers? and then presented the so to see the tapestry what it means. just like the book of proverbs. to give a lecture in theity consequences i could do that zero or to say if you don't, i get back. we have to do of better job because it is the story that compose action. so the sister puts herself into the ongoing narrative and i argue that many people ondd the left they inviteling people into the story, and the utopian story the way things could be and people have these very principles so we begin to wonder about ways to tell the story is in such a way that what is the principle behind that? in terms of pastors and religiousea leaders, it is a s multifaceted vocation and on the one hand there still needs to be the leadership that speaks to social injustice and can highlight to see the way in which society lives in solidarity with the social breakdown of all of us but then people have stories so we have to know people's stories. that is the

. >> rose: a narrative. >> a narrative. but chris christie has done things. >> rose: what has he done that makes him rhett di to be president? >> he's taken on entitlements which have to be dealt with and he's done in the a fair with with a democratic house and democratic senate in new jersey. he's brought coalition together matthew may have more information about new jersey. i find him to be quite popular in new jersey, erything i read. he may get beaten up in the next round but but he's brought together vatsly different people and done in the a decisive way and delivered real change. >> rose: but you are a manager. yowere one of the best manages in corporate america until you retired. does he have the stuff to be? >> i think so. >> rose: not in comparison to barack obama but does have more capacity to lead than firm? >> look,'m not here selling chris christie. i'm here telling you that he's a very viable strong candidates. if y look at mitt romney other than this intangible we can't quite all touch... >> rose: but it's tr

so your sister is actually splicing herself into an ongoing narrative. and, actually, i argue that many people on the left and in the middle and on the right -- not as much on the right, middle and on the left and way left -- they actually invite people into a story, right? a utopian story of the way things could possibly be. and a lot of people have these very principles that are with our founding, they just don't do a good job of storytelling. so i began to wonder about ways to sort of tell these stories first in such a way that people say, man, hmm, where can i read more about that? what's the principle behind that, right? coming up with the story first. now, in terms of pastors, sort of religious leaders, um, i mean, you know, it's a multifaceted vocation. i would say this, that on the one hand there still needs to be the type of leadership that prophetically speaks to social injustice and is able to highlight and see the ways in which society isn't live anything solidarity, right -- living in solidarity, right? the ways in which there's social break

>> it is his narrative that he thinks it will take him to the white house. if you want to sell fishing rods in a big box sporting goods store, you all come down to texas, ed. the truth is they are mostly minimum wage jobs and on top of that, many of the good jobs in government and elsewhere in the energy industry came from the stimulus package, came from tax cuts and came from what the white house has done. and mr. romney is right. we drew some good cards in texas. good weather, energy and growth. but the population increase has not kept up and it has helped strip the job growth. so it's a problem. >> jim moore, dave weigel, harold cook. great to have you guys with us tonight. appreciate it so much. we'll do it again. >>> next up, gretchen carlson is all worked up about serena williams' court meltdown, on the court meltdown. she's so out of line her fox and friends sidekicks don't even agree with her. "psycho talk" is next. >>> and in my "playbook" mitt romney seems to be confused about political donations. hae has problems with unions giving money to candid

are known as an investigative reporter, long complex narratives involving dramas and situations. i am curious to know what was hardest about memoir with somebody living their life as a working journalist? let me preface it a little bit with someone who has similar tendency. this is from 2005. i would like it if you would read from here. >> perfect. yeah. this is a moment in the book where, i am kind of flipping out writing about my brother. i am listening to tapes, because of course i have gone back to the orchards, my brother has died at a young age. i have gone back to the orchards to do interviews, i keep doing this dancing about what it is really about. i am saying i am outside the event although in the middle of it. it is protection, part of the latex that is covers me. making tapes, to crack the grid that i can understand on situations that are incomprehensible. at this moment i want to change everything in me tobserver part and move into something else, the living your life part. when does that start, exactly? something else, i look into the mirror and someone says what ar

. >> one of the narratives that runs through this book, particularly as he becomes more sick in the last part of it, you are the relentless, you are going to be okay, there is going to be hope, if i make enough contacts, i'll fix this. he is the almost unfailing despite his occasional request to you to help voice of it is not going to get better, deal with it, what did you learn over the course of that thing about the terrible tension between hope and reality acceptance when you are close to someone who has a terminal illness? >> that is such a hard question because the fact is they are so you. you are looking at yourself. it is impossible when your brother, sister, and 2 and a half years apart. i couldn't give what he was going through a reality. i couldn't see it for what with it was. it was catastrophic. now that i had my brother, i was desperate not to lose him. >> you hadn't had him until this. >> we had that cotten batting between us. we had a fierce attachment, when you are that locked together in this kind of angry, very strong bond, underneath that is the bond and the real attac

but this is an old narrative from the republicans.whole idea that the liberals are pandering to the poor and it's the poor people's fault that the economy is in such dire straits, because they always have their hands out. you heard, of course, for instance, newt gingrich talking about president obama being the greatest food stamp president ever. so there has been that rhetoric. i mean, even going back to president reagan, who talked about welfare queens and that whole imagery. so she's just playing into that whole narrative that has been around for a long time. and it's its own version of class warfare. >> i thought it was nixon that expanded the food stamp program? i thought it was bob dole that fought for that for the farmers. is my history that off? >> look, history -- >> affirmative action -- >> if you talk about class warfare, this narrative of attacking the poor and the struggling and disenfranchised is what the gop is effectively running on these days. >> go back to the past, newt. thank you very much, alex wagner. thank you, n

you know, fortunately for us, it doesn't take away from the narrative.esn't take away from the story. people know that i testified, and my statement is the only statement under oath about what happened with zubaydah. i testified on the senate at that. they know my position on the interrogation. they know the enhanced interrogation techniques and what i believe that they didn't work. and that's what i'm trying to say in the book and that's the narrative i'm putting in the book. and i believe all the threats that's mentioned in the book are threats that are already in public domain and all the things that have been redacted, mostly narrative rather than facts. narrative rather than facts. ^ >> in terms of the other people who have talked about the zubaydah interrogation, one of those things discussed by many, many, many politicians including then-president of the united states george w. bush in 2006 and justifying enhanced interrogation techniques. how did you get zubaydah to tell you khalid shaikh mohammed was mastermind of 9/11 then how did zubaydah end

the second narrative, if it is not class warfare the second narrative is going to be race. to throw that at every opportunity. you disagree with him, because you are a racist. >> sean: i'm going to take you back 20 months ago, 12 months ago, and seven months ago. deja vu all over again. touting the president's next jobs speech. amazing how similar it is. watch this. >> the president made it crystal clear he knows what the top issue is for americans. >> the president: jobs must be our number one focus in 2010. >> in wisconsin speaking to a union audience vowing to keep his focus on jobs and the economy. >> jobs, jobs, jobs, when president obama addresses the state of the union before congress tonight. >> sean: it goes on and it is seven months same thing. the theme is going to be jobs, jobs, jobs. and the theme is jobs. and we have no jobs. and we have the country with more debt and largeréaí÷y defict than we ever had. [ laughing ] >> it just hit me. it is grounding who day the movie. you work up every morning at 6 a.m. and it is obama with the jobs program. fine, do that. a

their kind of violence and the narrative of american imperialism around the world and we i think we've created more enemies than friends you know we targeted communities are making them partners not only has it not made us any safer i think that it has undermined you know the very fabric of american society the fabric of a post nine eleven america the united states has conducted an operation that killed osama bin laden the leader of al kut still what you do in the name of freedom america's campaign against terror began as a personal strike but in the ten years that followed a military say yes or no and then he turned thirty around the world the man behind nine eleven may have been captured but international safety and yet he delivered marina for nine artsy the. all right some some really important angles to look at from this human rights violations are taking place in abundance freedoms for americans that have been cut back and yet there are a whole lot of people unsure about how and what we have achieved investigative journalist as well as the guantanamo files and the worthington is h

maker -- make you feel but not make you fade away. >> charlie: your preference is character over narrative. >> yes, always. i think people connect with stories but they connect with people first. you look into people's eyes. this is how we judge them. >> charlie: whether they're alive or paying attention or whether they have something. >> yes. that's where we started before we even had a plot. who are w following. d that's the discussion of well, what happens. what's the reality. >> charlie: that's an interesting point. >> i can think of these characters representative of people i anyway. every single one of them. >> charlie: all the doctors. >> all the doctors and all the scientists and jude law's character. we've seen em all. we've seen people selling false medication, false hope. people with autism. >> charlie: in terms of trying to protect their own mily. >> it's very real. the oth thing which scott did which i very much appreciated was the point was very democratic. just because you're a star doesn't mean you can't get sick and die. >> charlie: well we experience a pandemic. >> i thin

of narrative. they intersect at one small point, and so there you go. i had similar fears for this one, so there you go. yes? >> you touched on antisemitism, and i was not aware the ambassador was a professor of history. he was a professor of history, and i guess my question to you is did he he have any kind of historical inkling of anti-semitism in history? you read rare tin luther and he doesn't have nice things to say about jews in the 1600s, so does he kind have any sense of anti-semitism in germany? >> good question. here's the weird thing. yes, he did have a sense of the fact that anti-semitism had been prevalent, you get the sense a lot of times that in terms of anti-semitism nazis dropped in from mars or something, but they did drop in from mars, but nothing to do with anti-semitism. [laughter] anti-semitism had been a theme as dodd points out in germany for a long time and in other cultures as well, of course, but what's interesting, at the same time, dodd was somehow ail to ignore his own

they need to cutback and that is the solution. >> brown: that is one narrative. >> that is one narrative narrative which isn't very popular in europe which is going on now, is there is i profound loss of confi den in financial markets about the safety of european assets particularly in countries likity lea and the reason for that profound loss of confidence is because the rules of the game have changed. for the past ten years there was an assumption, maybe a wrong one but there was an assumption that the whole financial structure was based on that this was risk-free government debt, that countries would not be allowed to default. and over the past two years there has been a vacillation of will they be allowed to default l they thought be allowed. and the weird thing is the europeans have said of greece which is one country that is manifestically insolvent, they said this country would not default and yet then as part of their muddling threw said we're going to create a structure that will after 2013 allow countries to default. >> that lack of confidence in nations would then lead to the

but what's really kept the west wing busy this week is a damaging narrative in a new book "confidence men" by journalist ron suskind. an unflattering picture of the entire obama team in its first two years. the white house has questioned several anecdotes, including one in which suskind quotes larry summers as telling peter orszag, you know, peter, we're alone. there's no adult in charge. clinton would never have made these mistakes. analysts say there's a larger reason why the white house is working this hard to discredit this narrative. >> once there tends to be a cartoon of a president, especially a president where the nation's got awfully big problems and it's an election year, that tends to take hold and is very hard to get rid of. >> reporter: the white house has drawn blood even for sus does kind on the "today" show to admit larry summers, in the quote we had in our peace, that summers had denied it, but then said he still meant the meaning of the quote that he used. >> for them right now, it's all about timing. chuck todd covering the traveling president, traveling white house

there's a narrative american,ing. >> good narrative? >> good night 95 we'll see. al-qaeda is totally irrelevant to the arab spring. >> and that is a good thing. >> yes, absolutely. >> as a matter of fact, arab spring fights in the face of al- qaeda? >> absolutely. >> so al-qaeda is unwelcome? >> absolutely. >> i think al-qaeda is a spent force, and there's also the money factor. i don't think the money is there anymore because of osama bin laden. he brought a lot of money in. money and terrorism go hand in hand. people can be bought. >> i agree. >> that means we're living in the era of lone wolf terrorism. that's hard to get on a big scale. and it can usually be found out. >> i would agree. but there's still -- >> dangerous. that's timothy mcveigh and that can be very dangerous, john. >> not if you're on the alert for it. the way we have a condition of ongoing alerts. should be -- should we be on a status now at and period of wartime alerts? >> look at major hassan, the single terrorist at fort hood, 13 dead soldiers, 29 wounded. >> on a different scale with al- q

narrative from a particular perspective. now, we have chaos. i'm not saying that is not a problem, but on the other hand, we need to think about the fact that we have a lot more voices and a lot more information, and we need to develop citizens that understand not only how to read a news story and understand it, but also know how to tell a story, understand how fact work, how confirmation works, how non- fiction story telling works. that is a big challenge. we also need to develop procedures within the community of journalism in the new media that are as thoroughgoing and really comprehensive about the nature of the practice of journalism for the new media as they were in the newsroom, say, 20 years ago. >> i think one answer to the question of how we police bias, at least on line, is that online news is a conversation, right? that is one thing that is great about it. when you are talking about a piece that runs on line -- online that people can immediately start commenting about, people can start talking immediately about w

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