of law in this alternative immigration narrative. it is this fear that the american way of life is being abandoned. the rule of law trope is a signifying order. it orders fairness and justice. and it leads to the idea that, to be american means to be law-abiding. since many undocumented persons are technically breaking the law, it is questionable whether latinos can ever be good americans. briefly. the history of mexican immigration to the united states after 1848 becomes complicated when crossing the border becomes an illegal act in 1929. or most of the 20th century, the history is one of mass deportation and detention. mostly mexican americans to mexico. usually occurring when economic pressures dictated the precious resources of local states and governments should only be used to support americans. the first such deportation starts in the 1930's, when nearly half a million mexican and mexican-american citizens are sent back to mexico. the next occurs in the 1950's, called operation wetback. not my word. over 100 million people sen

alternative narrative. it is this fear that the american way of life is being abandoned. the rule of law trope is a ignifying order. it orders fairness and justice and leads to the idea that to be american means to be law-abiding. since many undocumented persons are technically breaking the law, it is questionable whether latinos can ever be good americans shared briefly, the history of mexican immigration to the united states after 1848 becomes much more complicated when crossing the border becomes sually occurring when economic ressures dictated the precious resources of local, state, and federal governments. such deportation starts in the 1930's, when nearly half a million mexicans and mexican american citizens are sent back to mexico. the next deportation occurs in the 1950's, called operation -- not my word. these narratives, interwoven with the idea of contagion and criminality, have fueled the ugly specter of something that happened recently in marietta, california and elsewhere, where protesters hav

what you have to do is counter the narrative.ountering the narrative is 2340 something only the united states or the west can do this is where muslim leaders or scholars need to stand up. >> saying we do not support terrorism they run these schools where they can suffer a remarkably suffocating, non-critical education. >> sure. sure. this is why we have to bring all of these nations to the table, you know the solution is regional solution because what's causing this chaos in the middle east today, what's causing these murders in syria and in iraq is basically a vacuum that exists and that vacuum exists because of happening. >> it's hard to take over a country actually functioning? >> exactly. exactly. sectarianism has been used in the powers. >> the situation in iraq and syria are different now. in iraq, we keep hearing about how maliki and his shiite administration did not allow space for the sunnis and that has fueled this growth. the truth is the sunnis before them didn't allow space for the shias and when the shias took over,

this narrative is one on which everyone comes to agree. celia is ultimately found guilty by a local jury. we will come back to the jury dynamics in our discussion. she is sentenced to death by hanging. is a curious interlude, that i think we know too little about still. of the jaild it out and avoids the initial hanging because she has been secreted out of the jail and taken to a hiding place. who is responsible for that is one of the mysteries of celia's case, but ultimately we know she is returned to the jail. a new execution date is set. the state court of appeals hears preliminarily the possibility of celia's appeal. ask if the high court will stay or postpone an execution temporarily until there is a formal review of the legal proceedings and the answer is no. the high court sees no legal merits, no likelihood that celia will prevail on appeal, they permit her execution to go forward, and she is hanged in fulton, missouri. so, i want to come back with you today to revisit this case through some of the scenes we have been developing ov

and for some reason, the media attaches to these narratives

we have also looked at the wpa narratives. one of the things we noticed about those narratives is you will recall the extent to which some issues including sexual violence, violence generally but sexual violence in particular was rather muted in the slave narratives. so here we have an opportunity with the celia case to take another pass at this question to try and see this dimension of oh slavery through the experience of celia. why do i say try to see this dimension of slavery? well, as you all have already begun to see in your readings for today there are many ways in which the record might be evident upon which we rely to discover, explore and understand the case of celia is a challenging record to make use of. so part of the work today will be to talk about the evidence in the celia case how it is we recover from what is in essence, the record of a trial a rather fragmentary, carefully but id owe sin catcally semed group of testimonies written and oral arguments of lawyers, conclusions of judges. that mixed with a little

it is hurtful to hear some of these narratives. we have to change that narrative, but still be hopeful. you're right, this conversation will make you discouraged, make you worry. i think one of the great challenges we have -- and this is why the church should be more vibrant and out there leading -- is we still have to find ways to be helpful. when they do that, they allow themselves to get comfortable with these realities. we have to be willing to make them hopeful. >> you know -- i have accompanied six people to execution -- here's some hope. people are good. it's not like they've really thought this through and have come out racist or saying, we have to kill the criminals. they have not thought very much about it. my hope -- i don't know i can still be doing this if i was getting out there and going into all these places, texas, alabama, everywhere and people were so closed, rigid, and races. they do want to reflect on what we are doing in this library tonight, this community discourse, where we are taking something and reading

now a judge is ruling that goodell's narrative is bogus.called the ruling a damning 17-page report that says goodell was full of it. that he knew what happened inside the elevator before the footage came out. and that at the time, they saw this security camera footage. she's out cold on the floor. you know, ray's carrying out there, dropping her on the floor. not showing a lot of love there. the woman's out cold. did he think a slap did that. rice even demonstrated how he hit her when he met with goodell, the way he said it. goodell doesn't seem to be able to get it straight. this is rolling disclosure of the worst kind. >> i read the arbitrator's report. she's a former federal judge. and in no uncertain terms, she makes it clear that she didn't believe roger goodell's account. everything that she looked at indicated that goodell and the other nfl officials knew full well what happened in that elevator -- >> that she was slugged? >> that she was hit and she was knocked unconscious, that they knew that. there's no way they could not have kno

he sounds like his narrative and what he's seen matches the narrative from police. that this 18-year-old had a gun, pulled it on the officer who shot to protect his own life. do you think it's helpful that the mayor is himself african-american? do you think he will still be discredited by those who feel like there's a bigger problem and that somehow the mayor is betraying them by not being on their side? >> well, i think that's exactly what they're going to see. they're going to say he's part of the established -- part of the problem. and the agenda, or really the chanting theme of these protesters really is is a white cop shoots a black man or a black teen. but nobody accounts for the conduct of the person that is truly the suspect. they get up in the morning. they put a gun in their waistband. they go out into public. nobody told this young teen to pull that gun on that officer. he could have simply said i've got a gun and raised his hands, got on the ground. he chose to do what he did, and he died because of it. nobody is accounting for his conduct. you have crow

it is hurtful to hear some of these narratives. we have to change that narrative , but still be hopeful. you're right, this conversation will make you discouraged, make you worry. i think one of the great challenges we have -- and this is why the church should be more vibrant and out there leading -- is we still have to find ways to be helpful. i am persuaded that in justice prevails where hopelessness assist. do tois nothing they can better advance -- in that incarceration. to have a conversation about what it means to helping the poor. when they do that, they allow themselves to get comfortable with these realities. we have to make the we have to be willing to make them hopeful. >> you know -- i have accompanied six people to execution -- here's some hope. people are good. it's not like they've really thought this through and have come out racist or saying, we have to kill the criminals. they have not thought very much about it. my hope -- i don't know i can still be doing this if i was getting out there and going into all these

this is a well-worn narrative in the american imagination right now. today it is the most well-known supreme court case public opinion poll after public opinion poll reveals this. many of us who follow civil rights know the naacp was also very active in housing discrimination lawsuits and voter disenfranchisement cases. one of the contemporary lit up a leader >> of this sentiment, barack obama, while state senators remarked on her radio show, one of the tragedies of the civil rights movement was because the civil rights movement became so focused. i think that there was a tenant need to lose track of the political and community organizing activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalition of power. along similar lines, jerry rosenberg had called to have his belief that they are constrained and unable to bring about significant social change. these arguments i think reflect a perspective of many in science and history that the civil rights movement would have achieved greater success an organization focus more energy on achievin

it is hurtful to hear some of these narratives. we have to change that narrative , but still be hopeful. you're right, this conversation will make you discouraged, make you worry. i think one of the great challenges we have -- and this is why the church should be more vibrant and out there leading -- is we still have to find ways to be helpful. i am persuaded that in justice prevails where hopelessness assist. do tois nothing they can better advance -- in that incarceration. to have a conversation about what it means to helping the poor. when they do that, they allow themselves to get comfortable with these realities. we have to make the we have to be willing to make them hopeful. >> you know -- i have accompanied six people to execution -- here's some hope. people are good. it's not like they've really thought this through and have come out racist or saying, we have to kill the criminals. they have not thought very much about it. my hope -- i don't know i can still be doing this if i was getting out there and going into all these

it indicates the same narrative. both indicates the narrative of osama bin laden. both indicate the narrative of bin ladenism, if you want to call it. but it depends which flag you have. it indicates who is your leader. abu bakr al-baghdadi or zawahiri. >> as we learn more with regard to this man how would isis -- let's assume this is a lone wolf situation, someone who is clearly inspired, probably perhaps by isis online. how does isis use this instance and other instances that we've covered whether it's u.s., australia, canada to their own benefit in the real war? >> they will use it that they have been successful in instigating muslims around the world to rebel and to support their goals. terrorism, the nature of terrorism has been shifting in the last few years. actually it started shifting after 9/11 when al qaeda moved from being the chief operator to being chief motivator. they took advantage of social media, of the latest advances. >> so was he. >> the latest advances in communication and communication technologies. so they are using all these things to thei

and his narrative is that the 18-year-old pulled a gun and the officer shot to save his own life.o you think the mayor, since he is african, will be different and that somehow he's betraying them because he's not on their side? >> yes. they're going to say he's part of the establishment, part of the problem and the theme of these protesters is a white police officer shoots a black teen but nobody accounts for the conduct that is trulty the suspect. nobody told this young teen pull that gun on his officer. he could have simply said i have a gun and laid on the ground. he chose to do what he did and he did. is that what they teach their children? is that what their community is? and that's the message they're conveying. >> hearing from his family, they're of course heart broken. he is a young man, 18-year-old, never expecting to lose him that gas station with some friends. that same -- at the same time, things i don't stling been resolved -- how much pressure does this put on police to make sure they don't miss a thing when they're out? not wanting to contribute to this ongoing tens

missed narrative about the rule of law. that is what initially went south. despite the religious organization's best efforts. latino catholics and protestants and evangelicals and latter-day saints all had a vested interest in passing immigration reform. they simply were incapable of overcoming this narrative that is comprised the history of latino immigration for centuries. the rule of law and the triumph of the civil religion over the compassion. the religious activists intended to representations that the representations of latino immigration by stressing the virtues, hard-working narratives and passed. the sanctities of family and how immigration and its narrative acts as a stand-alone monolithic of the country has been built. all were weaved by the activists became latino immigrants with dignity. with the groups didn't what the groups didn't take into consideration or if they did they didn't fully reconcile the need the dominant culture and the political surrogate in the republican party had in the securing their own n

hasn't the narrative totally changed?think from our perspective from the very beginning the narrative has remained the same, that darren did his job. he did exactly what he was supposed to do. the resignation hasn't changed that in the slightest. >> greg, i agree with rudy giuliani. they never would have gotten a guilty verdict having read the evidence, read the testimony, all the eyewitnesses and for pressure? we're going to allow political pressure, agenda-driven pressure, to determine whether or not a grand jury's convened? >> you know, that's a very good point. like i told you the other night, first statement i received from officer wilson, second statement, third statement in front of the detectives, i knew our case was solid. but as i said the other night, the thing that scares me about this case are those politician statements. and, no, i agree with you that political pressure should not run a criminal investigation. >> when you say politicians, you mean barack obama? you mean eric holder? you mean other people? >>

and that does make for a very large problem. >> and what are the main narratives? how are they selling themselves? >> the primary narrative is that there's a war in islam and that these are the jihadists. the vanguard, which is protecting muslims, and also seeking to overturn the global status quo, so that means getting rid of israel. getting rid of the imperialist influence in muslim majority countries. so it's a very narrow jihadist ideology, but it does have quite a lot of persuasive power. >> is there any element to which the likes of twitter and others could be doing more, should be doing more to catch this early and keep it off? >> well, at the moment, social media platforms like twitter and facebook are doing quite a lot. they are getting rid of accounts that are known propagandists. however, it's a very difficult job to do. we know there are a number of very important islamic state propagandists in particular, who i've been following who are the first point at which islamic state propaganda is disseminated. when they're taken down, they appear within an hou

against this real strong force of propaganda, follows narrative, about race in america. we all know that race is an explosive issue in america but i tell you one thing that's going to start happening soon and that it that white society will get tired of having their nose rubbed in the past sins of slavery. we know what it did. we note what happened to this country. but white society has made great strides in trying to right that wrong. that is another narrative that is nose being peddled here and one that i'm willing to give white society credit for. i think i'm living testament to the fact that this country has change night and day and the opportunities are there for everyone. everyone is includedlkpd now iny sort of racism or discrimination. has to go underground. it's episodic. it's not institutional in the united states anymore. >> sheriff, always a pressure. if to no other reason than calming downs and stepping way back to have you. thank you again. >> thank you, neil. >> so, now we're focused on what we did to this guy. instead of what is done for the rest of us. y

today's narrative underlying those narrative is ultimately this mission of military power and military financial and assets. and both sides are fighting over the same thing using very different language. now it's gotten to the stage where they're trying to appeal to the international community to buy in their narrative. if you don't support operation dawn you don't support the revolution. if you don't support operation dignity, then you're fo not for the war on terror. the threat has to be the last in the resolution. it can't be a clumsy heavy-handed approach where we bomb people into solutions. it's not going to work that way. >> now ebola has kille ban ki-moon pledged more support for health centers. he praised health workers battling the virus. meanwhile liberians are going to the polls. the vote was postponed twice as ebola ravaged west africa nation. the election is seen as a test of the country's ability to mitigate the spread of the disease. >> the making their way through polling stations i. these scenes would have been unthinkable just a few months ago even though some are try

we do have to do with that narrative. >> we do. you have attended functions we made the point about representing multicultural companies -- countries. this is a tiny minority of people. but what do you say to a mother who tries to help? what their son, yusuf, was doing? and then says, i feel betrayed by the police. that kind of symptom ssends the wrong if our to parents, children suddenly reach that tipping point? that they tell them can cooperate with the police services, and not been -- and not see the children again? >> i wasn't in the courtroom, so i didn't hear the argument. very difficult interposer self -- you hear about it on the radio, you read little bit about it. we have to trust our policing system to deliver justice. but should we use all the powers we have tto try and pull away from that side? using persuasion and the program, as well as, and arrest he harder and prosecution -- yes, of course we should. i think what i see of the police intelligence services, they do that a lot. message that e goes out. stop people ant

there are long narratives about how other countries have left them dowlet them down . the united states with its relationship with pakistan feel it has not been forthcoming over the last 10 years. that it has decided to go after certain groups, al-qaeda now to go after ttp but not other groups. pakistan certainly wants to go after the group that is presenting the most significant threat right now. everyone understands that. no one disputes that. it's a sensible thing to do. but there are other groups that could be equally destabilizing to the region, equally destabilizing to the united states, and frankly, equally destabilizing to pakistan's own future. >> if an official meets an opposite number from pakistan, if a member of the intelligence services from the united states meets an opposite number in pakistan or ditto, somebody from the military, can they be sure that that person who they're speaking to is pulling on the same side that they are, t. >> i think my suggestion is that they can be pretty sure that the reaction that they're getting from the other side is the

i have never seen those two narratives even more magnified as in the last year. on one hand, the kurds he will pangs into kirkuk, the exuberance that came about because of this, because of their expansion, because of the retaking of kirkuk really put the kurds in a euphoria over the possibility of independence. i think the fact that they are now coming to terms with what a border with isis means, what this has done to their brand. for the last decade, kurdistan has been the other iraq, if you have a border with isis, you're just iraq. you have all of the violence. you have all of the risk and so on. i think just in the last month, we have seen the stubborn fact of the fact that kurdistan cannot declare independence and for that matter cannot export oil without the concurrence of ankara and that dates back to all of the decisions, if kurdistan wants to do anything that baghdad does not approve of, it must have ankara's concurrence. the realization that they would not do nothing without the concurrence of ankara. it's a single commodity oil economy but also has the

so wipe that narrative off the table.was driven by the left, by the progressives, by al sharpton, who's the chief racist in this country. but he sits that right hand of president obama and of gibill d blasio and they should look at their action and judge it what it is. >> we have a montage of all the radical things al sharpton has said over the years. do you think a guy who should be at the white house? do you think he should be giving advice to the president or the mayor of new york? >> no. he should be in new york. they jailed other people that have been a part of other similar organizations like the national action network. al sharpton has done nothing since the beginning of this and this predats ferguson and as far as what the president of the naacp said, it's better than to listen to these ignor aimishes. saying this had nothing to do with what happened in new york. the fact of the matter is everybody is aware at how this man was created. he did not come to this idea on his own. he was created with everything that ha

even after the grand jury thing. >> used the word murder. >> the whole hands up don't shoot narrative. >> that got played over and over and over again. rarely did we hear the fact that michael brown, in fact commit ted a strong-armed robbery which was on video. i play that compared to new york where it was all on video --. >> 9 staten islanden choking place and it was not so inflammatory. >> it seems that many in the need what seem to choose up sides on the incidents. >> here is a problem too. if you have experience in journalism, what you have learned and what i have learned, when you think something is obvious and you think you have everything nailed down nine out of ten times this is something you do not know. it was not couched enough with the ferguson coverage the police were not telling their side. >> we were getting one side from the michael brown appeal and allies. >> but it is the we responsibility of the media to fill in planks of why they may not speak and other explanations. you do not just let one side overrun the other. >> yes yes, and yes. >> the v.a. scandal and there

but then peppered in there were these narratives of her life as a child. so at the end i feel like i kind of got what i wanted from her, which was in her own words, recollection of her life, and the meaning of her life, which even though i didn't necessarily understand it, she believed very strongly that she was predestined to have led this life. >> her life is quite tragic in many ways because not only did she lose a country but she lost a husband, and then her children died from accidents two of the four. a lot of vietnamese talk about her being cursed for the role she played during the war. but what do you mak of that? what does she make of her open tragedy? >> back to the kennedy thing. it's like -- people talk about the kennedy curse. there's the nhu family curse. certainly madame nhu had a very tragic life, so first in '63 she was disopenned by her parents who she wasn't getting along with anyways. then her husband is killed in a coup. a couple years later her oldest beloved daughter dies in a car crash. and things keep getting worse in 1986 her pare

we have also looked at the wpa narratives and one of the things we noticed about those narratives iscall was the extent to which some issues including sexual violence, violence generally but sexual violence in particular was rather muted in the slave narratives. and so here we have an opportunity with the celia case to take another at this question to try and see this dimension of slavery through the experiencing of celia. so why do i say try to see this dimension of slavery? well as you all have already begun to see in your readings for today, there are many ways in which the record, the evidence upon which we rely to discover explore and understand the case of celia is a challenging record to make use of. and so part of our work today will be to talk about the evidence in the celia case, how it is that we recover from what is in essence the record of a trial, a rather fragmentary carefully but idiosyncratically assembled group of testimony written and oral arguments of lawyers, conclusions of judges, that mixed with a little bit of newspaper reportage, some demographic material, li

that is a false narrative. new york city's police department is rationally mixed. i don't like the fact mr. garner was put in a chokehold and died over selling cigarettes, but he resisted arrest. the gentleman in ferguson, missouri, not only resisted arrest, tried to take an officers gun. this is after he ripped off a convenience store. >> i don't want to go through each case, but i know where you are going. i want to step back. when they get in individual spaces that's one thing, but they scare businesses. they actually scare businesses and get them to the point. >> this shakedown routine worked well for a handful of people. take the legacy of jim crow legacy and discrimination. you and a handful of friends. this is the old al sharpton. >> some things are good, some are not, i agree. >> let me add something. >> i knew him as a reporter. i'm telling you now, net net. why people of disaster to america. it is a negative. >> listen, i'm not going to argue with you. i'm not going to speak for the black community on al sharpton. >> for america it's a negative. >> i'm go

that's the narrative that the left likes to push with the help of the media, and that's what they do.er it's president obama, president clinton, eric holder, they see this as a political opportunity to continue that narrative. i mean, if you think of all the good that a president obama or eric holder could do if they wanted to make this an excuse to talk about black responsibility, why do so many young black men end up like eric garner, end up like michael brown, why do they turn to these lives of -- eric garner had a rap sheet going back 30 years. michael brown assaulted a police officer after robbing a store this his own neighborhood. why are so many young black men turning out this way? i think eric holder and barack obama are uniquely qualified to lead that conversation. they have no interest in having it. lou: no interest in having it, and i struggle to comprehend why i think so many of us in this country actually believe -- you and i have never talked about it, but i actually was one of those people who thought we had a pretty good shot at being a postracial society with the ele

are some mixing the places into an antipolice narrative? >> a woman file as suit against bill cosby saying he sexually assaulted her when she was 15 but that was 40 years ago. >> the public deserves do know if mr. cosby is a saint or a sexual predator. >> are the media turning his downfall into a circumstance cut? >> a congressional staffer loses her job for using pace book to rip the first daughters, a terrible mistake, no doubt, but are the media unfairly piling on? this is "media buzz." >> the eric garner case did not get much media attention outside of new york but after being on the edge after ferguson, a far, far different case, the video of garner surrounded by police officers being grabbed in the chokehold that killed him is relayed again and again with commentators across the spectrum agreeing with the new york coverage "we are breathless." >> i will say upon seeing the video you just saw and hearing mr. garner saying he could not breathe, i was extreme troubled. i would have loosens my grip. i desperately wish the officer would ha

but the other narrative. he took a big defeat in the midterm elections and what will happen come january and beyond. >> i know you will get in there with good questions. ed henry, starting about 45 minutes from now. >>> and what we expect a president could say. david hawkins from washington, welcome, the president said the cyber attack is serious and added that people should go to the movie. do you expect a somber and serious tone since some are calling it a first terrorist victory in a cyber war? >> i do. this is the first time since the story happen quickly this week. this will be the first time the came came camera -- president will look in the camera. and the signal he sends here will be important to the american entertainment industry and companies all over the country, that are worried that their own computer networks are in trouble. and my guess is that he will talk about the need to balance concern about so- called cyber 9/11 against the freedom of expression. this is something that people are talking

again, this comes as a fragmentary narrative, one driven by the court record, the legal artifact in the case. first, there is very little for us to say about celia's young life. we don't meet her in a formal sense in the historical rd

the tabloid narrative works.here's a goody, a body, black and white, no grey area. >> those things became the easy tart for that. >> that's an easier story to sell of. >> do you know why, because the people are people who don't have a voice in the same way. they are the power. newspapers often choose to kick downwards, rather than punch upwards, because it's easier to do that. it's easier to sell, less risky. that got me down. i felt the job i was doing was about kicking downwards. it's about punching upwards and going after the newspaper editors, who are powerful and saying you are not above scrutiny yourself. >> i interviewed nick davis from guardian. and one of the things he said is nothing has changed. if you look at the cast of the characters editing the papers, the murdochs running the news corporation, the levinson incaring calling for statutory regulation that is not hopping. the industry is regulating itself. you came out because you presumably want to change things. the bigger picture is not much has ch

this is agenda based, narrative based media.eted saying that this may be the biggest journalistic mess up since the dan rather gate story about george w. bush's error national guard service. what did this is two stories have in common? they both confirmed narratives the mainstream liberal media believes. it's what they believed about george w. bush, confamily ro rooming things they already suspected. >> i think indeed there is a skull assault problem. i went to a major university. i get that. i think the rolling stones made a big mistake in pushing forward this narrative. that is bad journalism. >> do you feel this mag queen was sort of committed to the sauce and therefore, obviously, a lot of shortcutes and shoddy technique was used? >> i agree. on top of that, they've trivialized rape for the next rape victim. now, the victims here in this particular case is the fraternity. they put the shoe on the other food here. >> i think you've identified a really important point about the impact on uva, the impact on the fraternity and t