of them, narrative, but whatever word you use for it, the narrative like that is similar in nature to a biological organism in that it has a propensity to operate in such a way as to continue to exist and to continue to prosper and grow if it can. when you look at how people behave within the narrative, you kind of see how that works but you have to read the book to see what they say about that. >> you mentioned a great documentary and what you mentioned today reminded me of something from years ago it's actually the corporations are controlling for the last 20 years because of there is a market crash and the east it will have a ripple effect around the world so right now we are playing this whole game but it's simple for peoplitsimple for ped what's going on. >> what is the question -- >> you made it clear. do a group of people have to have another that they persecute in order to keep their identity? >> that isn't what i'm saying. i'm saying that can happen. the group as it solves. >> we have little groups and bimbos are inside of bigger groups. i just want to toss out one final meta

narrative economics is the study of popular narratives. we do is try to get into people news thinking. people don't tell you what their economic model is. have you ever had a dinner conversation we discussed economic models. probably not. >> so, we need to be realistic about what forces changed to people news thinking. economists have a habit of assuming that people are rational. on the right again with the economist they would be rational. also consistent, three-time and not subject to any fads or phases in a new idea. i say we have to move past that. so narrative economics is about people news stories. in another reason why economists don't like to talk about it is it is kind of embarrassing. so the stories don't sound very intellectual. they're all real people and some of them are intellectuals of the art. we have to look at the stories that are contagious. that means go viral. and we do see go viral, that is a disease analogy. i have been giving talks in washington this week about this book. i have to cut it back a little bit. scholarl

that is a basic narrative. once the idea exist, i might read a little more, once an existing can easily attract other ideas to grow more robust that narrative. among them some of the other hazard gun aside so we have to clear out the other in here. now you have the potential to move. let me get into -- this sort of thing you can see the pattern of this sort of thing happening in history in various places in various contexts, one would be what happened after the crusades. what happened during the crusades and after the crusades. let me see if i can find it. when the crusades start, europe was a place where everybody lived in the local spartan had the ever.this is a project thatw people from all parts of europe and they found themselves bumping shoulders with others and will say experience was a marvelous thing and people dressed differently and were all on the same type. and were part of the big project. the crusades open european sensibility to a sense of common identity and as christians stream to the holy lan

is only another narrative. it is really important to be responding to the things that are supporting emotionally the narrative you don't like and drawing on the common experiences and crafting a new narrative that explains it all too but goes in a different direction. >> what we will do is, people probably have little questions they want to ask as they get their book signed, this always happens. if that is okay, we're going to stop the q and day on the big public seen here, thank you very much for coming. [inaudible conversations] >> the new c-span online store now has booktv products, go to c-spanstore.org to check them out, see what is new for booktv and all the c-span products. >> tonight at 11:00 pm eastern on booktv, in his new book, sam houston and the alamo adventures, brian kilmeade offers a history of america's war for texas. >> sam houston felt he was impervious. he got shot 3 times and should have died. he learned courage is got to be calculated. when it was time to get a commission he goes to washin

narrative economics is the study of popular narratives. we got to troy to get into people his thinking. people don't tell you what their economic model is. if you ever had a dinner conversation where you discuss economic models, is probably not. we need to be realistic about what forces changed people his thinking. economists have a habit of assuming that people are rational. and they write down with the economists think it would be rude rational and also consistent through time. and not subject to any fads or crazes or new ideas. i think we have to move past that. narrative economics is about people his stories. another reason why economists don't like to talk about it, is this kind of embarrassing. some of the stories don't sound very intellectual. there are real people, some of them are intellectual but some of them are. we have to look at the stories that are contagious. that means to go viral. we do save go viral, that's a disease analogy. i have been getting stacked in washington this week about this book but their long talks. i have

that's the father of mattie kclburn, vested interest, push narrative, black confederate soldier narrative, this is the way you do it, this is prominent public spaces still, now, just activists that ultimately as i argue in the book, the black confederate narrative has been unsuccessful. i could give you an example that the national park fell for it and i can even tell you, i will leave you to read the book across the river there are two prominent harvard scholars who have fallen for this. and that hasn't helped, right, that's actually really hurt things because a lot of people are more than happy to cite a harvard scholar, there were 3 to 6,000 of them, imagine 3 or 6,000 black soldiers fought for the confederacy. ultimately where ever it has appeared in mainstream place, museum, book, ultimately it was removed, so this narrative ultimately lives on the internet, that's where it lives, right, along with a lot of other crazy ideas as we all know, it never became mainstream and this was the goal of the 1970's their goal was to preserve the lost cause in the face of what we might call, emanc

of trump to push this narrative. of trump as some kind of stooge of mascara and his someone as some kind of stooge of mascara and as someone. who is bad on foreign policy because he wants to get out who is bad on foreign policy because he wants to get out of wars. so that individual is applauded while wars. so that individual is applauded while someone like max blumenthal who exposes things that undermines someone like max blumenthal who exposes things that undermine u.s. foreign policy and undermine u.s. intervention he is on u.s. foreign policy and undermined u.s. intervention and he is vilified or just simply ignored and that's what's happening here they want to even give vilified or just simply ignore it and that's what's happening here they want to even give him the light of day to mention that he was arrested and treated in the him the light of day to mention that he was arrested and treated in this way. you know i went with so nefarious about all of this with. you know i went with so nefarious about all of thi

narrative may yet reassert itself. what i come back to for the first time i've had the feeling that truth is closing in. facts are closing in. there's still a lot we don't know. i think in the succeeding, say, two to three weeks before christmas, it's going to be decided whether there's a breakthrough with what we don't know that swings public opinion with enough pressure on enough republicans to make this really interesting in the senate or whether it's a done deal, the house passes impeachment, mitch mcconnell and company kills it in the senate very quickly and we move on. >> let's see if we can come back to mcconnell. jokes at his expense last night. some of the tactics from right wing media. nicole, you wrote the book "messengers of the right." you've studied this world. i've been noticing from fox in the prime time shows a whole lot of name calling, stuff that will get you in trouble on the schoolyard. here is some examples of how they were taunted. >> professional nerd. >> looked like two homeless guys. >> people

again, the trade narrative feeding into that fx channel.hen it comes to the bond market, a little bit of a selloff. we are seeing yields getting a little bit of a lift when it comes to the german ten-year. this week, we are actually moving lower on yields. bonds in europe, at least at the core, beginning a little but of traction. trade evidently the narrative this friday afternoon in europe and in the morning in the united states. stocks rising. white house economic advisor larry kudlow saying earlier that the u.s. and china talk everyday , and is now down to the short strokes when it comes to getting that deal. we are joined by jeremy stretch, fx. head of g10 how long do using the market is prepared to wait? we have been risk on. we have been feeling better about the world. that certainly has been a story we can see in the equity markets. the dollar is a little lower today. how much longer will this patient's last? jeremy: you are right. it is a bit like waiting for good a -- like "waiting for godot." we are waiting for the details. the cr

narratively, there are some hokey elements to it.ike the characters, largely because these are good performances and the story is interesting, if fanciful. but the sheer cinematic spectacle of it is what won me over. i was going like this... that is like me any horror film. have you ever seen the walk? it was about walking between the twin towers? i felt like that very good 25 minutes. it was a fanciful, but entertaining. i am not brave enough to go up in one, because i am more worried about the landing. they coming down is always going to... doctor sleep is the sequel to the shining. and famously stephen king was not a fan of stanley kubrick's film of the shining. this picks up the story years later and danny has grown up in dealing with the demons of the past and other people in the world have his shining abilities. they are being pursued by the character rose the hat, who is played by rebecca ferguson. we know the narrative will move back towards the overlook hotel. the shining, many people feel it is terrifying, i have never done

so i think it is something that we remain part of her narrative -- will remain part of her narrative.hard jones, our fx strategist. anna and i are headed to radio. "surveillance" is up next. this is bloomberg. ♪ francine: the u.s. and china agree on a tariff rollback, but only if april luminary deal is reached. richemont misses estimates as revenueg protests hits -- hits revenue. we are joined by the chief executive of intesa sao paulo and credit agricole. we talked business in the era of extended rates. ♪ welcome to "bloomberg surveillance." first

anna: it is interesting to talk about where the trade narrative meets the central bank narrative. the question of the day is when do the assets expect the global easing to end? mark: that is right. because there is optimism on the trade front, people do not necessarily desire easing. there is disappointment on the trade front then more easing will come. at the moment, there is whe in-win either way. anna: coming up next from berlin, my colleague matt miller will be speaking exclusively to the ceo of goldman sachs, david solomon. that is coming up next. this is bloomberg. ♪ matt: welcome back to bloomberg this is the european open and we are about 22 minutes away from the start of cash trading across europe and the u.k. yearve an important 150 anniversary to celebrate with goldman sachs. chiefsolomon has been executive for just over an hour. overhauling management and shaking up the corporate structure, goldman sachs is for the biggest company potentially in history, saudi aramco. -- then berlin possibly uncertainties of the trade war are driving that. let us get his perspective. d

it's never been about that meticulous narrative that is often propagated as the victim narrative it's about saying we were all influenced by this huge historical process that unfolded over you know several centuries and i always begin my lectures to students in the beginning of term saying i am here because of colonialism colonialism picked a group of elite indians to be taught english and to be made in english in every way but blood and color and i am the descendant of the people who were treated as privileged intermediaries between the colonial government and the millions whom we govern and so for me to say that i'm here because i'm great and i just did the hard work and i got here without some nonsensical narrative i'm i am i teach today at cambridge partly because of inherited privilege so to what extent do you think you've been able to change narratives or to what extent is your work aimed at changing narratives that we don't often question so i think this goes back to earlier point that we discussed about cost or your ship of astoria being our responsibility i think through poet

narratively, there are some hokey elements to it.ely because these are very good performances and of course have worked together before. and the story is interesting, if fanciful. but the sheer cinematic spectacle of it is what won me over. i — i'm not kidding. i spent about 20—25 minutes of the film like literally going like this because i am so — you ever see that film... that's like me in a horrorfilm! now you know! exactly! did you ever seen that film the walk, which was the — you know, philippe petit walking between the twin towers? 0h! i know the one you mean, yes! it was a documentary which has no moving footage. but then there's a robert zemeckis drama in which we saw — well, i felt like that for a good 25 minutes. so i thought it was very entertaining. fanciful, but very entertaining. 0k. and having said i'm fine with heights, you see, i'm not brave enough to go up in one. because i am more worried about the landing. and i imagine.. yes, the coming down is always going to... it's quite... yes, absolutely terrifying. yes. now

the trade narrative, lifting assets. we see interesting narrative around strength on the commodity markets. let's get to the markets with mark cudmore, who joins us live from singapore. good morning to you. it seems the risk on rally fizzled out in the asian session. the decent data out of the u.s. yesterday, not enough to drive things higher. what are we waiting for? news lines on trade, i guess. mark: absolutely. people are nervous at the moment because this is a theme that has ended and float, but we are short-term price for extreme optimism. some think we will have a set action. it should be emphasized the broader trend has been positive since august-september. talk about a setback is retracement from the optimism we've got, not a breakdown in talks. wave.a two-frequency the broader wave was negative all from last year until the start of september and has turned positive, and then the higher frequency rave around aen we get headlines back, pullback, about to sign, a delay. when they both matchup, it is good for stock

most importantly, which narrative scripts with the public. which narrative sticks? to be have any polling that comes out over thanksgiving? is this a conversation over turkey and stuffing and apple pie that sinks giving dinnertable is a source of argument over the recess? we don't know. the waltham set the die. nancy pelosi indicated that the nixon impeachment took much longer, when she was asked about this was why this was "taking so long." it's unclear whether they will go down that road, but when the intelligence committee is done, this being the final potential open hearing, do they sent over the report to the judicial committee and go immediately to writing articles of impeachment can i go to the conduct of their hearings and continue this investigation, potentially stretching this out past christmas time? >> sandra: chad pergram will keep us posted on how that vote is proceeding. when the hearing may resume, and let's bring in to add to our fox team coverage, dana perino is here. juan williams, and andy mccarthy. what you think the headline has been so far fro

created their narrative.too long or felt we shouldn't go through this process, boy, did it yield a lot of information we can use in 2020. >> none of the moderate republicans theoretically have been swayed. let's move to voters, then, and the viewers. we're looking at the numbers a little bit earlier from week one to week two. those numbers went down from 13 plus million down to 11 plus million. you can see the difference there is about 2.5 million, about 10%, 12% decrease. you can look at recent polling of independents, susan, showing a drop of three or four percentage points. doesn't seem like a big number, but when you look at ebbs and flows, that is a significant number. >> one of the things that's reflected especially with independents isn't that they don't think the president did something wrong. we know that's up in the 70s that the president did something wrong. should he be impeached and should they do it now with an election less than a year away, so i don't necessarily think it shows support for the

that was our narrative. if we take away those talking points, if we take away the things that the movement is using, and make it a fair type of thing, if we take those things away. >> we have time for one more question. thank you. i'm cynthia, american university. thank, first of all. my question is about generational differences within the movements. we talk a lot about fragmentation across different groups within the movements. i wonder if you have experience with generational conflicts? i'm thinking when you are working on interventions, how do you ensure you are taking -- staying current and you can continue to reach the young guys in the movement who often will not trust any adults, period, speaking as a parent of kids of that age. looking to get the right ammunition in the right funding to make sure some of the interventions we have on staff are young. and we work with a lot of volunteers online. we have collective twitter groups, facebook monitoring groups that are full of people from 18 to 22. what t

you know, her narrative is very much like the narrative in the first part of the mueller report. the part about russia that said there was this concerted effort by russia to help donald trump get elected and not that ukraine had any particular role in the campaign. >> she's also going to discuss, talk about that july 10th meeting at the white house. where she says the eu ambassador gordon sondland blurted out a comment about the investigations that the president that they want the ukrainians to launch political investigations involving the bidens as well as the 2016 presidential election. >> you know, i thought one aspect of sondland's testimony was particularly interesting. when he said that other people had characterized his efforts during this, you know, crucial period as sort of a rogue foreign policy. h and he said, no, this wasn't a rogue foreign policy. this was our foreign policy. that using ukraine to try to help the trump campaign to use the -- you know, to create these investigations of burisma and of the 2016 election, that was american foreign policy. now, hill may t

. >> i have written about trying to expand the way we think about the american narrative it's calledmerican founders. looking at the story of the entire hemisphere and it begins and 1492 i will read a littlele bit from excerpts in the book and then have questions and conversation but there are some images from the book also on the cover that a tiny individuals that are described historical narrative shape how we imagined our place in the world in the past much has limited african-americans to a few roles related to slavery or the civil rightses movement that means dream history is white people however if we turn up the lights it is evident people of color resemblele every icint the distinction between american history and african-american history is imaginary american founders explores three things. first slaves were americans irrespective of citizenship rights were recognized in the ordinary and watershed events. enslaved individuals were instrumental of every major new world historical event as an epic multifaceted revolution. the era that preceded not all black people were slaves

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that was the narrative initially. also tailored to specific societies.age was come othersfor moderate political islam in this country anymore. we have to go militant because they closed us down and there was a coup in egypt that effectively achieve that. over about two years the platforms closed a lot of the propaganda was the young woman were killed. the very much became the essence of the project was more revealed in the messaging it was an apocalyptic highly millon aerial violent transnational jihadist group with mercenary territorial inattention that sounded like. anna began to fall so micah. >> you talk about social media you mentioned the example of the young woman using tumbler. did you see gender differences in the way they were trying to reach audiences across europe based on gender or age women reached out to women women invoked themes, graphic means that young women would appeal to them. there was certainly for women images of this romantic adventure in the desert, there were pink graphics where you could walk off into not a honeymoon because

using the people who are stuck on these other narratives, are wheeling to do that. see that it is very difficult. i described, i see two volumes in my auto biography, when i am in the bookstore. after this happened. it's a bookstore. all of these books, and i see science fiction, there into this there into that. the whole world which i are completely outside of my world, the key to it all. there's probably 10000 books in bookstore. my books for the apartments. [laughter] when i realized it was just another story and is completely false one, as it turned out the room went black, it was like being in a desert, completely flat with no landscape. i realize i was nothing that's it terrifying. >> you were in berkeley and bookstore. >> i saw a false set of ideas. millions of people, these were really bad and stupid and unproven ideas. [inaudible conversation] >> what you are suggesting. >> i had to face my mortality and that was who difficult. it's is it too much and you talk about that new book mortality and faith but it seems to me that you are suggesting that you are go

i vehemently disagree with the narrative that you're trying to string together here.nt an accurate picture of the work that was done. senator, john brennan's name is on the report, he was director tennants's chief of staff and then deputy executive director when the programme started. he grew up at the agency. he claims to have spoken out against the eit programmes. where? i've just spent five years looking at their e—mails and never found anything to suggest that is true. well, we knew this wasn't going to be easy, they have their own narrative and they are going to stick to it. maybe we could come up with some middle ground, find some common language. i thought ourjob was to provide oversight and accountability, not middle ground. i have a question for you. do you work for me or for the report? and i would encourage you to think about that before answering. so that's annette bening, as dianne feinstein. interesting thing, you can see, it's a drama that plays out in rooms and a lot of it is people in rooms and a lot of it is people in rooms having conversation or loo

adam schiff's own witnesses confirm all three of the narratives of my columns.ere pressuring ukrainian authorities to drop certain cases. yes there were some concerns about hunter biden in the conflict of interest at burisma. and there were interest that ukrainian officials returned to stick their fingers in the 2016 election and all three of my stories are accurate. unfortunately those who attack them or engaging in unethical undemocratic and dishonest reporting where they don't look at the facts and my stories and say trust us, they are wrong. people should look at the facts. though it's back stand to testify. maria: will you turn around it to them? >> i am in consultation with lawyers right now about bringing targeted legal action. not because i want to make money but i want to correct the public record for the american people and i want them to see that my facts can stand up in the court of law. maria: let me ask you this, how far up the ladder do you believe this entrapment went in the obama ministration ? >> most counterintelligence investigations are alwa

he has been pushing that into the narrative.the republicans, they're getting their direction from donald trump right now on this. and that's exactly what needs to be discussed in the senate. >> former ambassador nancy soderberg and former deputy assistant secretary of state joel reuben. thank you both. >>> coming up, the republican defense of president trump. starting to unravel in the face of some compelling testimony from witnesses in the impeachment inquiry. that's one side of the story. the other, after this. to meet shawn mendes. verizon got me into the nfl combine, they don't even sell tickets to this thing. (announcer) verizon knows you love live music and sports. we got to be this far away from the stage. (announcer) that's why we give you access to more jaw-dropping experiences, including nfl games and events. i've never had a vip experience before like that. probably the best moment of my life. (announcer) switch now and you'll get access to thousands of tickets on us. plus, one of our best phones when you buy another,

what we're seeing now is a narrative being portrayed, a narrative that is reflected in these transcripts. you're seeing a narrative, whether or not the president is impeached in the house or convicted in the senate, you're seeing a narrative of a president who has abused his power, debased diplomacy, turned on his own diplomats, and separate and apart from whether there is an impeachment, this narrative is compelling and persuasive and i think will have very significant impact on the electorate. >> that's the political context rather than what would be the legal context of any kind of impeachment. michael steel, are the politics in the democrats' corner, the way this thing is becoming unveiled? >> not right now. they have a -- they can make a compelling public case that these misdeeds are not only real and important but rise to the level that the president should be impeached, convicted, and removed from office. they have not yet made that argument. you have to remember there are 30 or so house democrats sitting in seats that president trump won in 2016. if you look at polls in these swi

he's been pushing that into the narrative.republicans are going to their direction from donald trump right now on this, and that's exactly what needs to be discussed in the senate. >> former ambassador nancy solderberg and deputy assistant secretary of state joel ruben, thank you both. >>> coming up, the republican defense of president trump starting to unravel in the face of some compelling testimony from witnesses in the impeachment inquiry. that's one side of the story. the other after this. sourced cos and are gluten & dairy free. they're all clean. all the time. even if sometimes we're not. sundown vitamins. all clean. all the time. and my lack of impulse control,, is about to become your problem. ahh no, come on. i saw you eating poop earlier. hey! my focus is on the road, and that's saving me cash with drivewise. who's the dummy now? whoof! whoof! so get allstate where good drivers save 40% for avoiding mayhem, like me. sorry! he's a baby! upbeat music♪ no cover-up spray here. cheaper aerosols can cover up odors in a fl

of he was promoting was going to backfire i think it has backfired was that narrative also inclusive of falsehoods about ambassador you manage at the particular juncture that ambassador bolton made that comment absolutely because it was in the context of my discussions with him about what was happening to him busty of out of it. i was particularly struck by your testimony dr hill about receiving hateful cause and being accused of being a saurus mole in the white house or you would never trump or or have you been true to your profession and remain nonpartisan i honestly don't know what the definition of a never trump arose as i think many of my colleagues feeling the same way that it is a puzzling. to be applied to career of nonpartisan officials and i chose to come into the administration i could easily have said no when i was approached yes but you didn't find up to have hateful cause and and the like i guess unfortunately where we are today in america that's coming with the territory the continuing honestly i'm aware of constantly having to block twitter posts of my name and addres

in order to do that, you need to have a strong narrative of islam and that narrative we have proposed by the cabinet, that is the compassionate islam, as being the main narrative of islam in malaysia. well, you want all that and yet, why are you not doing more to support the sisters in islam group? that is a very progressive islamist group, a progressive muslim group. its founder has been applauded by the united nations recently, given an award, talks out against domestic abuse in that make against women put up child marriage, that sort of thing and here we are seeing them referred to the sharia court because there was a religious decree, a fatwa, against them, saying that you promoted a liberal and deviant form of islam. they are doing good honourable work. why are you not doing more to support them? define how i am not doing more. they have been referred to the sharia court and you know what will happen to them there. that was a case that happened in a previous government, not during our government, our tenure. previous government, not during our government, ourtenure. but back prev

and you see the subhead there, "narrative furthered by russia," she asserts. here's that tampa bay times from florida. hill, discord serves putin. former security aid and expert fiona hill warns the gop of fictions and dramatic comments on thursday. up in the great state of maine this was the portland press herald today. "witness fictions about ukraine help russia" testimony in the last scheduled public hearings reinforces the case that the president's efforts work today the detriment of u.s. security. and then you see the subhead there below the fiona hill photo. ex-white house aide says moskow was behind the claim. multiple stories on the impeachment inquiry overall and again another big main photo taking up most of the front page. four columns wide in "the post" fiona hill arriving for her testimony under the big headline, whirling week of testimony wraps up, a warning that conspiracy theories advance russia and divides americans. and the st. louis post dispatch from missouri. all caps bold headline. it says fictional narrative, hill says she predicted ukra

and then she took apart the sondland/giuliani narrative, we were doing this to get money. she said what they were doing was a domestic political errand. period. >> those are the three words. >> period, end of paragraph. a domestic political errand. we were talking about national security. they were embarked on a domestic political errand and those two things didn't really meet. >> she went a step further in making her point. listen to this. >> based on questions and statements i've heard, some of you on this committee appear to believe that russia and its security services did not conduct campaign against our country and that perhaps somehow for some reason ukraine did. this is a fictional narrative that is being perpetrated and propagated by the russian security services themselves. >> the republicans as you heard, they tried to respond to that. >> and she broke it down for them. she explained point by point exactly why it makes no sense to equate any innuendo with ukraine about what russia did in 2016. she took the politico article that republicans have been entering int

this is a fictional narrative that has been perpetrated and propagated bit russian security services themselves >> reporter: but republicans pointing out they had released a report on russian electiong. hill, a british-born american citizen, daughter of a coal miner, describing when she confronted ambassador gordon sondland, a wealthy trump donor. >> i asked him who put him in charge of ukraine. he told me the president, which shut me up. he was being involved in a domestic political errand and we were being involved in foreign policy. those two things had diverged >> reporter: she took aim at rudy giuliani's involvement in ukraine, pushing for investigations that would benefit the president at the heart of the impeachment inquiry, recounting how she raised her concerns with former national security adviser john bolton. >> he saids s iin the course of that discussion that rudy giuliani was a hand grenade that would blow everybody up. he was pushing forward ideas that would come back to haunt us that's where we are today. >> reporter: also tonight the show and tell moment that brought

it falls right into the narrative.ing testimony still there at his job and trying to not completely throw the president under the bus but maybe a few tires of it. again, just another piece of a very clear narrative. >> this was different. richard nixon had been in politics from 1947 to 1974. he had people willing to take a bullet for him. people would come into congress and they would lie. there was so many people that lied. if we prosecuted everyone for perjury, i'd still be there. if they really pushed, they are going to to talk. maybe two people would back up donald trump. his daughter and his son in-law and who knows. >> we'll leave it there. >> thank you for being here. tune in tomorrow, aidian elrod will be here as bell as zerlina maxwell. up next, powerful personal history front and center. witnesses reminding us what is really at stake. i wish i could shake your hand. granted. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ like very high triglycerides, can be tough. you diet. exercise. but

there is a narrative that has been told about america but many other narratives that haven't been spoken of. we also offer professional development to educators. we have online professional development that we do. a lot of speaking engagements in terms of effective dialogue workshops. one of the things in reading this book that stood out to me is is so important that we have the tools and resources but we also have to know how to engage in effective dialogue to be successful in achieving our goals. so we've been privileged to work with people from 30 different religious identities and non-. a lot of it on the shoulders of doctor charles haynes. who for many years did work in finding common ground in public schools in terms of teaching about religion. so what we're doing is continuing charles legacy in many ways and being very specific in providing opportunities to institutionalize this work. when you think about theological institutions. their training them to think theologically and critically about their religious perspective. but at the same time, religious leaders engage in conversat

>> i don't know the hunter biden piece was a russian narrative, disinformation narrative.heless, they know it's creating friction in the united states. as these wounds open up it's a place the russians can go again and again and again. what is sad about this is these senators and congressmen know better. >> anything that makes us divided makes the russians happy. senator graham is far from the only republican, however, carrying water for the president. on sunday. these guys are unbelievable. i respect these guys, louisiana john kennedy pushed the debunken conspiracy ukraine meddled, a russian push, a russian come ro mat, fiona hill's warning it's a fictional narrative pushed by the russians. here she is. >> senator kennedy who do you believe was responsible for hacking the dnc and clinton campaign computers their e-mails? was it russia or ukraine? >> i don't know. nor do you. nor do any of us. miss hill -- is entitled to her opinion. >> let me interrupt to say the entire intelligence community says it was russia. >> right. but it could also but crane. i'm not saying that i

because of those people who was skeptical of the whole risking resurgence narrative because what i saw happening was basically u.s. troops leaving and then handing over the territory to what i saw happening was basically u.s. troops leaving and then handing over the territory to the syrian government and sort of slicing that whole gordian 'd knot between the kurds in turkey the syrian government and sort of slicing that whole gordian 'd knot between the kurds in turkey that was that was problematic for years there'd been a lot of anger directed double trouble that was that was problematic for years there'd been a lot of anger directed double trouble over his. what was called his betrayal of the were his. what was called his betrayal of the kurds and that wasn't very long ago hi potentially beneficial might this kurds and that wasn't very long ago high potentially beneficial might this be in the other aspect for him taking out such a high profile being the other aspect for him taking out such a high profile target well your vast majority of americans would react to this with prime targe

as this occurred in voltaire's narrative events, the cruelty and cost of war extended far beyond battles themselves. crimes were perpetrated not only by enemies, but the very states for which a military man had been willing to lay down his life in combat. i have lingered on this textual example because it foreground s several of the issues i will speak about this evening. "candide"s episode in is set in the seven years war. incensed louis the 14th and others to take up arms in the american revolution. revenge, they say -- revenge, they say, is a dish best served cold, and the decade or so between the close of the seven years war and the initiation of french aid for the american cause allowed france to prepare to hit back at england to partially rebalance the system of global imperial power. and relatedly, the humiliating losses of the seven years war not only a fueled -- not only fueled, in part, the french engagement in revolution, but it contributed to growing national prejudice in france. between the latter wars of louis 14th and the french revolution, france experienced a dramatic mi

aren't these just narratives? what do we gain to keep hold of this migration, the great migration narrative beyond the demographic shifts, what is the individual drive that helps us move , that make us migrate? here you have a totally african world in which this little girl is being savagely repressed, savagely o pressed, yet she's resilient and she pushes her way. they push her out of the black world into the white world under these white men, and you got to learn how to create a life. you got to learn to be more creative and imaginative with these concepts we're taking in and moments we're exaggerating, instead say how did she shape the language of african-american history in ways that create this dynamic flow that prepares us to understand the whole of the human experience? please tell me. >> i mean, you said it. there's not much i can say to that except that that's what art does. on the one hand, we've inherited a series of narratives because it happened. it did happen this shift in population and people were