and my skills are honed in narrative, fiction and dialogue. so, i thought that i would bring those into play rather than sort of an essay-type rendering of what was going on. in doing so, in trying to invent what this person in a photograph might have been thinking to himself or saying to another person, it occurred to me that something truly unique had pp of any political movement so -- that so demanded and so required the deliberate of children, children having to behave in a manner that was not merely to advance him or herself, but all children, then and in time to come. they were at the most vulnerable age when they were asked and able to become involved in something big and much, much bigger than themselves. they did it and it was hard. and just imagine, imagine yourself as i imagine myself, 8 years old, 12 years old, 15 years old. i'm entering the street, entering a building where i believe i am hated. well, i know i am, because ming. grown-ups as well as children are calling me names. i am so not wanted, the nunns have to come along to

he went on to say -- this narrative fiction that i can't control -- we have seen in past election cycle too. it would be nice if the candidate can pretend there is no blow back from independent expenditures. an interesting to see going forward if that proves to be a case. >> i ask these guys to be real and honest with us and ask them to pretend their biggest donor their whole career when they are running for the presidency, their back ten cycles and we have to pretend they have no idea what that person is doing, we have -- it is weird that we ask for the most senior candidate and there left to play the part. he cannot turn -- that would violate the law. a deeper structure -- >> take one more question. >> chuck schroeder, one of the things i was glad to agree guys that they hear you guys say, the research guide. he made a point that advertising would affect the outcome of an election. to frame that from our perspective where we come from the research guys were always people who came in to a meeting with reams of information. always very smart guys and a creative person would take one pag

. >> heart and soul" is told through a fictional narrative nearly 200 years old. this is a large history but also ry intimate. i wanted to tell both of these stories and i wanted to tell the grand american story as though you were sitting on the lap of this elderly narrator as though you were sitting on a lot of this elderly narrator, and she was telling the truth as she knows it. -- i wanted to tell this grant american story as though you were sitting in a lot of this elderly narrator, and she was telling you the truth as she knows it. the first painting and it took about three or four weeks to complete because of the amount of visual research that i had to find and compile. when it came to find individuals for a slave ship and many of the paintings and the books, i would pose for them myself. i would oppose in character so i could see how the light was falling over my body or the folds of the fabric to make sure that it looked as natural as possible. -- i would pose in character. each painting is like putting together and levered puzzle that i am creating a puzz

. >> heart and soul is told through direct election and families, history of a fictional narrative nearly 200 years old. i think of this as an american family album. this is a large history and also very intimate. i wanted to tell these stories and i wanted to tell the grand american story as though you were sitting on the lap of this elderly narrator, as if it was your grandmother telling the truth as she knows it. ♪ ♪ the first painting that i did took about three or four weeks to complete because of the amount of a visual research that i had to fight and compiled. when it came to finding the visuals for the slave ship and many of the paintings and the books, i would pose for them myself. i would oppose in character so i could see how the light was falling over my body or the folds in the fabric to make sure that it look as natural as possible. each painting is like putting together an elaborate puzzle that i am creating a puzzle pieces myself. it is not only for me to be more engaged but it translates to the viewer. ♪ ♪ when it came to moments like the great migration, i wanted to show

of course he went on to say it in the end, but you know this sort of narrative fiction that while i caneen it in past election cycles too. it would be nice as you suggest jamie at the if the candidate can pretend there is no blowback from the intended expenditures. it will be an interesting thing to see going forward if that actually prove to be the case. >> the overall candidate's authenticity, we asked these guys to be real and honest with us and we asked them to pretend their biggest donor, their whole career so by the time they get to be running for the presidencs and we asked them to pretend they have no idea what that person is doing it they would never stoop to talking about them so i think we have trying this really weird behavior that we ask of our most senior candidates and then they're left to play the part. he cannot say i will turn out at off. that would violate the law so it's a really weird structure for their friends versus what the law asks them to do. >> we will take one more question. >> chuck schroeder, former copywriter and now a senior creative people. one of the t

. >> three things that almost happened in recent american history and in fictional narrative terms sayingn palm beach, florida, in 1960 as president-elect? nobody knows that. >> explain that. it's one of the things that stunned me when i read this book. >> an anti-catholic deranged guy parked in a car loaded with dynamite, secret service takes no notice of him, he's going to kill kennedy as he leaves his house on a sunday on the way to church, misses kennedy comes to the door and say good-bye and he said i can't do this in front of the wife and carolyn. all i do is not have her come to the door, kennedy is killed before he's president and then i take lyndon johnson through -- up through the cuban missile crisis and through a lot of interviews and say given what lyndon johnson thought about foreign policy and his fear of emasculation and not being tough, the cuban missile crisis doesn't end the same way as it did. i had to do robert kennedy surviving because i worked for the guy and take him through part of the presidency -- >> explain what happens if bobby wins -- >> well, in my notion an

fiction by south asian american writers. encounter people of asian decent in the americas her novel, braided tongue was published in 2003. i introduce rashne. >> i'm reading from a selection from a longer narrative. memory is no longer confused. it has a home land. from a farm by the late ali. sometimes the circle breaks and the woman meets the child. face-to-face. each one seeing for the first time her strength in the other. a poem by jenny. [inaudible]. after more than a year of e mails and phone conversations, amy,ling and i met at the university of wisconsin in madison. it was sometime during the mid 1980. calcutta was very hot, said amy. i wondered how our conversation about asian american literature veered to calcutta? calcutta was very hot but i got my first doll there. we spent some time in calcutta when we fled to the united states. the doll didn't look like me blond hair and blue ice bought from calcutta. she comforted me when i remember the sounds of the japanese bombs that forced us to leave our home. did you have a dog? an indian doll to comfort you when you were a child? i told amy about my doll named champy and my oldest paternal uncle who resembled chinese ancestors. my uncle was