right today but sort of a sensibility or a point of view that infuses a work of narratives, of narrative fiction. a certain point i started looking into this and i realized it wasn't just writers here and there, it was scores come in fact hundreds of people, right-wing, many libertarians actually who were inspired by the advent of the rise of amazon, by the advanced of digital self publishing technology to write and publish their own works. and yet they were having a lot of difficulty finding and connecting with their natural audience. so it seemed to me the best thing to do would be to create a place, a home on the web, a web site as a platform and gathering place for these conservative fiction writers so i founded a web site called liberty island which can be visited at liberty island mag.com and it's a short story magazine fiction written by and for conservatives writers and readers. the point of my article in the national review was to make a broader point that there was what i call a resurgence of the right train, the conservative right brain was not just limited to fiction. it was a broade

one, with the so called narrative non-fiction, which is what i- this, what people like to call it.larly like label, but it's as good as any. there- i think some writers have a tendency to take, take liberties and sort of have people doing things that they don't really know that they were doing. and so, and so i don't want to- i don't want to have somebody say, "well, how did you know?" you know, "how did you know that this guy was walking back? were you just- is that just artistic license?" so i just thought, you know, i'm going to short-circuit that and say, "i know this because he told us. " >> cspan: another footnote. this is totally off the subject, and you know knew it at the time when you wrote it, i'm sure. "governor's island, in the interest of filling the reader's mind with yet more useless knowledge, i'd like to note here that the 1960s comedy duo, the smothers brothers, tom and dick, were born on governor's island. >> guest: right, right. >> cspan: what again moved you to do that? >> guest: well i just, you know, i had- i had spent a fair amount of time researching the p

. >> she, however, created this false narrative, the fiction, that this was racially motivated so for her to pour the gasoline on that fire erodes the public's trust. >> williams said he wasn't able to defend his office against racist claims basically the bishop case was resolved. >> a good report card. >> what the justice department is giving philadelphia police for making progress in curbing the use of deadly force. you may tlaul commissioner charles ramsey asked for a federal review after increase in police shootings. the feds recommended more than 90 changes in the review. ramsey announced that almost all of those changes are being made. changes to training, tactics and third party investigations. incoming commissioner richard ross says he hopes to have all of the recommendations fulfill bid the middle of next year. >> people forget i have been number two or eight years so i've been part of this from the beginning since his tenure so i want to highlight that for a reason that people expect this dramatic change in leadership, i talked about this in terms of passing the baton, we go

>> well, savannah, i don't know where that narrative comes from other than a fictional narrative that's spun up last week that never happened. >> will you rule it out? can you rule it out? >> first of all, well no one can rule it out. if a candidate doesn't get to a majority of delegates by the time you get to the convention, then you could have a contested convention, but my belief is that we'll have a presumptive nominee by the end of march or middle of april. i've said that for over a year. i still believe that. convention are almost nothing, but, you know, look, is it possible? it's possible, but it's possible the democrats would have a contested convention. is it likely? of course not and it's something that -- go ahead. >> sorry to interrupt. the discussion comes up because there's this feeling that if donald trump emerges as the nominee that some republicans will not be happy with that and they fear that it will essentially hand election to hillary clinton. a lot of the candidates, if you ask them, say they will ultimately support whoever the republican nominee is, but they can n

he goes between first and third person narrative, gets a bunch of facts wrong, creates fictional charactershe's worse to mrs. reagan. the idea that he was "unknowable " emerged. eguiled byb morris. he met with him during the last couple of years of his office, as facilitated by senator hatfield. he had written terrific books on theodore roosevelt and george washington. we talked about and compared reagan to theodore roosevelt. reagan was smitten with that. accessve him unfettered for two years of his ministration and into his retirement years in simi valley. after he seven days died. days, june 5, 2004. >> we only knows it's the two things made after president reagan--we only know of 62 things made anamed after president reagan. louisiana named the highway after him. only 62 things. people say we did a lot, but actually, no. now is the time that i hope everyone at the 50 states will do something significant. mr. lamb: that's 11 years ago. has the project going? -- how is the project going? mr. shirley: it's going well. 101 isn a one-- route named after him in california. to see aways surpri

he goes between first and third person narrative, gets a bunch of facts wrong, creates fictional charactershe's worse to mrs. reagan. the idea that he was "unknowable" emerged. reagan is beguiled by morris. morris started meeting with him during the last couple of years of his office, as facilitated by senator hatfield. because he had written terrific books on theodore roosevelt and george washington. so, we talked about and compared reagan to theodore roosevelt. reagan was smitten with that. and so they brought him in and they gave him unfettered access for two years of his ministraiton and into his retirement years in simi valley. brian: seven days after he died. six days, june 5, 2004. >> we only knows it's the two things made after president reagan--we only know of 62 things named after president reagan. there have been a lot of discussions. we have certainly got a lot of e-mails. new york city is thinking of naming a highway in the city. louisiana just named a highway after president reagan. only 62 things. people say we did a lot, but actually, no. there was a lot of discussion prior

looking for facts and there are people who are looking for fiction, but i think people of faith look for truth. and i think in both narrativesre's the truth. and truth sometimes goes a lot deeper and a lot farther than the detail. >> it isn't just about my private spirituality. as with the story of jesus, it's something which must transform the whole of one's life and, through one's own life, all sorts of other things out there in the world. >> coming up next -- our tour of bethlehem and the church of the nativity. the flu virus hits big. with aches, chills, and fever, there's no such thing as a little flu. and it needs a big solution: an antiviral. so when the flu hits, call your doctor right away and up the ante with antiviral tamiflu. prescription tamiflu is an antiviral that attacks the flu virus at its source and helps stop it from spreading in the body. tamiflu is fda approved to treat the flu in people two weeks of age and older whose flu symptoms started within the last two days. before taking tamiflu, tell your doctor if you're pregnant, nursing, have serious health conditions, or take other medicines. if you develo

narrative. so it's exciting. i'm really interested right now in books that are moving between, drawing on history or various nonfictional forms and techniques and fictionalnes. so, you know, i had just finished eduardo galeano's three-volume genesis which is a history, a challenge history of latin america. based on millions of sources but also with interior monologues. so this is kind of my obsession right now. >> that's going to bring me naturally to our historian on this panel, t.j. stiles. >> is this working? okay. so same question, what was i reading on the way here? >> yes. and why. >> actually. yeah, i'm going to lie, i read all of tolstoy's work on the plane. [laughter] i had some notes for him also. no, i was reading, i just started reading billy lynn's long halftime walk. somebody remind me of the name of the author, he's a well known author who's beloved -- >> ben? >> that's right, ben fountain. that's right. and, you know, this has often been praised as one of the best novels about the experience of the wars in iraq and afghanistan. and, you know, i'm interested in, as somebody who writes nonfiction, i see myself as both playing a role specifi