the country has been in turmoil since february when its president resigned, but that man, mohamed nasheedas ousted. i spoke to him recently. you came to worldwide attention at the copenhagen conference because you -- you really tried to get them to do something about climate change and some people argue that your speech in copenhagen was crucial to actually getting some kind of agreement. why did you feel so strongly on the issue? >> climate change is a real issue that is happening in the maldives. it is not something in the future. we are just 1.5 meters above the sea level and even a slight change in sea levels have a huge impact on the maldives. the predicted rises in sea levels will be disastrous for us. we have a written history that goes back 2,000 years and we have been, as a country, as a civilization for a very, very long time. and we just can't disappear. we must be around and we have to do whatever it takes to see that there are solutions to the issue of climate change. >> one of the strategies people urge sometimes is to say, look, you're trying to get essentially unworkable s