they were trying to protect us and letting the snneo nashis fa know there -- we didn't see you in firstlack church there in charlottesville, because of those -- in those church moments where reverend tracy blackman gave a powerful sermon and i said a few words, and then when i spoke at the sun rise, it was about love and justice, not a kumbaya, but a focus on any people who are vulnerable no matter what color or nation or sexual orientation. we don't get that kind of prophetic witness, because it's so hard for that to be sellable in corporate media. so we just get the ugly, vicious conflict. and when the space of prophetic witness sh riffles up, we look back and see this. there's a lot of decent people in america, but they remain spectators insped of participants. >> that's an important point dr. west just made. when i turned on the television and watched, i saw fighting and people going back and forth. i didn't know who was fighting. i thought why would racists be fighting each other? so i assumed the racists were fighting the peaceful protesters there. that's what i saw andassumption.