the last one is here in nashville, tennessee, where one of the most prominent clergyman in nashville at the time, baxter, preached an anti-catholic sermon and then had the u.s. congress and get up in the pulpit and rebut the sermon he did it after it was delivered. which few can imagine both the banter and the tennessean have front-page stories on monday, just the outrageous violation of all kinds of southern taboos getting up and rebutting an iconic preacher at his own pulpit was really quite extraordinary. so i will do that one and this one about billy graham. limited the moment and read this episode with respect to the grand. in the summer of 1960, billy graham had been in europe conducting a series of crusades. on august 17 he had convened a group of 25 american crew clergy in switzerland to discuss the presidential race and have a response. graham's father-in-law doctor nelson bell, afterwards they set a handwritten account to nixon. according, the group was a man who's behind nixon and appeal was part of a selected committee chosen to meet with the vice president to convey the

low 30s, mid 30s around nashville. we see the blue, below freezing from kentucky through the ohio valley. weak combed front, showers in chicago land, light showers north of you, in towards milwaukee and stretching in towards green basement it's on the light side once again, picking up later on. light rain around bloomington, illinois. rain gets harder in central parts of nebraska. a quick-moving cold front. once this goes by, you'll see more sunshine. all in all, weather looks good today. major records for october set. they all fell. we'll show you some of those coming up. records in october, cold and rain ones. no kidding, right? >> wet your beek. never heard it. >> from the godfather. godfather ii. >> never watched it. >> there you go. >> too violent for me. >>> one of the largest bankruptcies in u.s. history has just been filed. it means the government and you could use billions collectively. the other huge concern is what it might do to thousands of businesses. >>> a spectacular crash at talladega that takes your b

so that is proof that in nashville, because all of this is really taking place in nashville, you know, the conspiracy is actively at work. so the three-man, if i kind of tend to believe that, that that happened. and i would think they might've been people saying lewis, why don't you not bring those documents to washington, whatever was on their mind when everything he was going to interfere with their plans with. and i believe he was wilkinson who murdered him for many years. because wilkinson, i'm actually researching the life of general wilkinson and boy does he have a career of treachery and conspiracies that go back to 1776 and forward. but where was i going with that? all there's two issues. when i decided to put this book together, i thought well i really want to understand 1809. and that took me a year and about a lot of books and a lot of photocopy just you try to sort out all of the different, there's a lot of different books by a lot of different things. and to my surprise, it led to early texas history. i never expected that i would have to do that. and if the early filibus

so that is proved that in nashville, all of this is really taken place in nashville, the conspiracy isactively at work. so the three men, i kind of tend to believe that, that that happened. and i would think they might have been people saying lewis, won't you please not bring those documents to washington? [laughter] >> whatever was on their minds, what ever he was going to interfere with their plans with. and i believed it was wilkinson who murdered him for many years, because wilkinson, i am actually researching the life of general wilkinson, and boy, does he have a career of treachery that goes back to 1776 moving forward. where was i going with that? there are two issues. the spanish silver -- when i decided to put this book together, i thought, well, i really want to understand 1809. and that took me a year and i bought a lot of books and i got a lot of photocopy, just to try to sort out all the different -- there's a lot of different books about a lot of different things. and to my surprise, it led to early text history, i never expected that i would have to do that. and it's the

we all love her, and we think she is really representing herself as well as nashville and country music very well. so we were excited for her. >> she is adorable. what did you think of the incident with kanye west? >> oh, i think that's always silly when people show their butts like that. i feel like he probably was embarrassed about it later. but i thought she handled it really well, and i think everybody just wanted to smack a knot on his head. but i think it was all -- you know, what can you say? it was what it was, you know. >> you know, you've had so much success in your career. did you ever just -- and you made a lot of money at this point. let's tell the truth here. did you ever think of maybe just giving it up and rolling around in your money? >> no, i never just wanted to roll around in my money. i always said i count my blessings more than i count my money. but i have had a great career. but i really like what i do. like you, i really enjoy the people. i enjoy the performing. i love making things happen and seeing things happen. so i've been at it since i was a little bitty ki

is the confronted a group of protestant ministers and went to houston and the last one is set in nashville, tennessee where one of the most prominent clergymen, baxter was an icon in the church of christ preached an anti-catholic sermon and hattie congressman rebutter this armand immediately after was delivered which you can imagine both had front-page stories on monday, just the average is violation of all kinds of southern taboos and rebutting an iconic on his own pulpit was quite extraordinarily so i will probably do that one. let me take a moment and read this episode with billy graham. in the summer of 1960 billy graham had been in your conducting a series of crusades on august 17th he convened a group of 25 american clergy to discuss the presidential race and plan a response. the gathering included norman vincent peale daniel polling, clyde taylor of the national association of evangelicals and judiah wright of the national association of evangelicals. dr. nelson bell. afterwards beales senton account of the meeting describing the discussion that took place among the group of disting

i want to turn our attention to an episode here in nashville and read a passage about what happened in this episode. another conservative protestant denomination in the south, the churches of christ, produced a large volume of anti-catholic tracts and papered the countryside with it. as a matter of information, it's very hard to convey the current generation the power of the tract in the protestant world in the 1950s and '60s. i group up in the churches of christ, and we had a deacon whose entire work was maintaining a rack of tracts at the back of the sanctuary on every imaginable and unimaginable theological issue of the day. and we produced a robust literature on this election. dozens of tracts saying why you couldn't -- why as a member of this tradition you could not vote for a roman catholic. the baptists produced a literature that was just as rich, the national association of e evangelicals, millions of these tracts were mailed around the country, bought and sold, and it was a powerful political organizing stool. all of the period control calls -- periodicals wrote with the usual

springhill franklin nashville campaign ad 1864, i thought it might be nice for a change to get away from the civil war. i thought even get away from history. i thought it might be fun to write a novel. now, don't misunderstand me. i don't want to bring down the wrath of many historians who decry fiction, but i do read fiction. usually authors from years ago. i am more likely to pick up some thomas novel or ernest hemingway or servan the's joseph heller. probably i have read catch-22 have least three times, maybe four. anyway i decided i would try a novel and that i would said it in world war ii. focusing as my main character on a fighter pilot, and i had read, written and read quite a bit as well-- i had written about 250 pages i guess what i thought about my rinn king, a b-17 pilot in world war ii. i knew that any pilot training with the army, air force in world war ii went through this same procedure of two-point and i felt that probably myron could help enlarge and improve my understanding of the process, so i called them up and he was very gracious, and i soon met with him. this

it's like a giant gay bar in nashville. >> that's the old nashville. it's a little more mainstream.ittle more mainstream. i want to go on record you said that. >> i said that. i'll take the -- a lot of country music i find -- i like it. i like it a lot. some of it's depressing. like "stand by your man" is a good one and you find out she has six husbands. >> that's one of the all-time classics. i like "sleeping single in a double bed." >> those are great. >> those are great names. country music stars are phenomenal. they are so approachable. >> i like them. we have them on all the time on the "view." >> it was neat to go to carrie's hometown, go with tim mcgraw back to nashville, his 900-acre farm, that's where his dad had his last days, "tug" mcgraw. >> see what i mean? depressing. >> when i was going there -- >> might as well be italian the way they carry-on. you know, you had a book called "the seven rules by." i was fascinated by this book. when it came out in paperback you added a rule. now it's eight rules. >> maybe i'll keep going. seven -- ironically when i released the book

it's like a giant gay bar in nashville. >> that's the old nashville. it's a little more mainstream. you have a little of that. it's a little more mainstream. i want to go on record you said that. >> i said that. i'll take the -- a lot of country music i find -- i like it. i like it a lot. some of it's depressing. like "stand by your man "can is a good one and you find out she has six husbands. >> that's one of the all-time classics. i like "sleeping single in a double bed." >> those are great. >> those are great names. country music stars are phenomenal. they are so approachable. >> i like them. we have them on all the time on the "view." >> it was neat to go to carrie's hometown, go with tim mcgraw back to nashville, his 900-acre farm, that's where his dad had his last days, tug mcgraw. >> see what i mean? depressing. >> when i was going there -- >> might as well be italian the way they carry-on. you know, you had a book called "the seven rules by." i was fascinated by this book. when it came out in paperback you added a rule. now it's eight rules. >> maybe i'll keep going. seven -

we, after the first couple of years, the women who started davis-kidd book sellers in memphis and nashville decided to retire, and their succession plan was to... kind of selling to bantam, the owner of the company and she expanded into cleveland, his home town and charlotte, and pittsburgh. so, 7 stores, 7 stores and, yeah, we focus on being regional book sellers. [inaudible conversations]. >> sarah palin served as a republican governor of alaska from 2006 to 2009. and, was a republican candidate for vice president in 2008. to find out more, visit facebook.com/sarah palin. >> deborah gordon in 2009 how main cars are on the road in the world today. >> just over a billion cars on the world's roads, not just cars, motor vehicles, cars, trucks, buses, lots of scooters and two wheel,in asia. on the road today. >> how many in the u.s. >> in the u.s., about 300,000. >> 300,000, 300 million? >> 300 million i'm sorry. >> is that too many? >> is it too many? this is the issue, if we want... if what we have, mobility we have which is wonderful, if we want to replicate that to the world, we cannot do

the radio was tuned to one of my favorite stations which broadcasts nightly from nashville. it was one of a few stations that brought the sounds of black rock and roll, rhythm-and-blues and jazz artists. little richard, jesse james, to places they had never been before, the homes and lives of my white peers throughout the nation. it took away when i imagined my white classmates at central were listening secretly too. i particularly enjoyed a program called randy's record highlights which aired after 10:00. as i changed into my pajamas my mind felt at ease. i made it to the home stretch at central. for weeks things had been calm. no protesters or major incidents. graduation was less than four months away. i finally stopped sulking after the rejection from antioch and decided on a college. my decision making process had been quite simple. i accepted the first school that wrote to me with good news after the big letdown. michigan state wanted me right then and i was eager to be wanted. after such disappointment i had been in no mood to wait to hear from my second and third choi

lexington and cincinnati and then after the first couple of years they restarted in memphis and nashville and decided to retire and the succession plan was kind of selling to the owner of the company and then he's expanded into cleveland, his hometown and charlotte and pittsburgh. seven stores and yeah, we focus on being a regional booksellers. [inaudible conversations] >> sarah palin served as republican governor of alaska from 20062009 and was a republican candidate for vice president in 2008. to find out more, visit facebook.com/sarahpalin. >>> we are here with the author of the new book the venus fixers. who were the venus fixers? >> they were in the government in the cemetery in 2002 whose job it was to prevent damage to monuments, works of art during the campaign between 1943

the nashville, tennessee report he was sitting with nfl commissioner roger goodell for part of the gamefter the age of 75 you just get a pass. >> just do whatever you want. other controversy in the nfl. marquise matchup between peyton manning and tom brady. they don't make it, they were ahead by six with two minutes left. why didn't they punt the ball? the colts get the ball back and with 13 seconds left they win it when peyton manning throws to reggie wayne and people will be talking about it. the jagger withes were down by one and jones-drew takes a knee. they wanted to run the clock out and they didn't want to give new york any time left which is what they wanted to do but he apologized to his fantasy owners after that. >>> the veteran against the rookie and the vet got the best. brett favre continues to shut our mouths for criticizing his return. threw a season high 344 yards. meanwhile, the lions matthew stafford who was 3 when favre played his first game. they made him look like a rookie. poor kid. vikings win it easy. >>> most hyped woman golfer in years, michelle wie won her fir

mid to upper 30s nashville, low 30s outside of the big city. cold start in mid-atlantic to the midsouth. >> for the first time people are turning on the heat. >>> one of the largest bank robberies in u.s. history has just been filed. that means the government and you collectively could lose billions. the other huge concern is what it might do to thousands of businesses. >>> spectacular crash at talladega that takes your breath away. how can someone walk away from this? >> right on the hood of the 29 car. >>> salute the troops specialist shane story gets an enthusiastic shout out from his mom. he's in afghanistan but was home for a few days last month for the birth of his son parker. >> good morning, afghanistan. it this salute goes out to my son. son, your family and friends miss you ton. i know they miss your money. we're proud of your sacrifice for the country. the pride we have for you timbers the sadness of your absence. everything squared away at home. i want to tell you, i think the georgia bulldogs are going to win it for you this year.

. >> the minnesota wilds invited the nashville youngster to tonight's game to help fire up the crowd.learned the speech by watching the movie "miracle" 100 times. the movie depicts brooks and the hockey team's gold medal victory at the 1980 games. >> a hundred times. >>> the obama administration has talked about how much the financial bailout has helped the economy. so why is the treasury secretary talking about shutting some bailout programs down? eeeee >>> oprah winfrey will announce today that she is ending her talk show. she's going to tell her studio audience in less than three hours. winfrey's last show will be september of 2011, which means the show will have been on the air for 25 careersyears. >> she is a chicago icon. on the level of a michael jordan. and what that means to chicago is, you know, over 25 years a lot of eyeballs on our city, and you can't put a price tag on that. >>> did the pentagon ignore a report that could have stopped the alleged ft. hood shooter? a security expert says that the 2008 study detailed ways that the military could spot soldiers who had b

mary alice duncan was oprah winfrey's fourth grade teacher in nashville.ah said the years she spent as mrs. duncan's student was one of the defining moments of her life. she was 9 years old. mrs. duncan joins us now. what are your memories of oprah? >> i'm very happy to have the opportunity to speak about how i feel about oprah. at the time she was in my fourth grade class, she was outstanding, very good student in all areas, especially in reading. even the students loved to hear her read. >> larry: was she a good talker. >> she surely was. >> larry: now, she's been very open about the hardships she had as a childhood, difficult things. did you know how tough things were for her? >> no, i didn't. she spent time talking about when she was talking with me, about her dad. she thought so much of her dad. she still does. >> larry: are you surprised at all that's happened to her? >> you know, at that time, i felt that she might become a teacher herself. and i really thought, i think she thought about it, too. becoming a teacher. she was capable. >> larry: sure w

really did that at the end of this like he did make a point in telling vanderbilt university in nashville. however, i think there's good reason to think that yes he wanted to create a new institution of learning because he did feel for what is like the fact he was uneducated and every chance he had this peak, this was a great air of oratory, you could not have tea without somebody getting up and giving a two hour speech. .. >> what would vanderbilt say to obama right now about what is going on with our financial system of our economy? what would his advice be? >> he would wonder, first of all, how a black man became president. that would astound him. that is a difficult question. should we make this the last questions? this is the sort of question that historians hate. frankly anyone of you could get up and make a pronouncement on this. it is utterly unthinkable. what i would say on this, there are too counterbalancing sides to him. he believes in laissez-faire, which is a radical philosophy in his youth but neatly citizen. he didn't believe in the government getting involved in the econo

jm dial was already tin into one of my favorite stations, which broadcast nightly from national-- nashville. it was one of the few stations that brought the sounds of black rock and roll with the man blues and jazz artists, the planters, little richard, fast domino to places they had never been before the homes and lives of my peers throughout the nation. it tickled me when i imagine maybe some of my white classmates were listening secretly too. [laughter] i particularly enjoyed a program called randy's record highlights which aired shortly after 10:00. as i changed into my pajamas my mind felt edie's. i made it to the homestretch at central i thought. four weeks things had been calm, no protesters are incidence and graduation was less than four months away. i have finally stopped sulking after the rejection from antioch and decided on a college. my decision-making process had been simple, i accepted the first cool the wrote to me with good news after the big letdown in that school was michigan state. michigan state wanted me right then and i was eager to be wanted. after disappointment i h

a see, which broadcast nightly from nashville.it was one of a few white stations that brought the soul sounds of black rock 'n roll, rhythm and blues and jazz artist, the platters, little richard, fats domino and added james, to places they've never been before. the homes and lives of my white peers throughout the nation. it tickled me when i imagine that maybe some of my white classmates at central were listening secretly also. [laughter] >> i particularly enjoyed a program called randy's record highlights, which aired shortly after 10:00. as i change into my pajamas, my mind felt at ease. i had made it to the home stretch of central, i thought. four weeks things have been calm, no protesters or major incidents and graduation was less than four months away. i had firmly stopped sulking after the rejection and decide on a college. my decision-making process had been quite simple. i accepted the first school that wrote to be with good news after the big letdown. and that school was michigan state. michigan state wanted me right the

we all love her and we think she's really representing herself as well as nashville and country musicy well. we were excited for her. >> she's adorable. what did you think of the incident with kanye west? >> oh, i think that's always silly when people show their butts like that. i feel like he probably was embarrassed about it later. anyway, i thought she handled it really well and i think everybody just wanted to smack a knot on his head. i think it was all -- you know, what can you say? it was what it was. you know? >> you know, you've had so much success in your career. do you ever just -- you made a lot of money at this point. let's tell the truth here. did you ever think of maybe giving it up and just rolling around in your money? >> no. i never just wanted to roll around in my money. i always said i'd count my blessings more than i, you know, count my money, but i have had a great career. i really like what i do. like you. i really enjoy the people, i enjoy the performing. i love making things happen and seeing things happen. i've been at it since i was a little bitty kid. i hop

we all love her and we think she's really representing herself as well as nashville and country music very well. we were excited for her. >> she's adorable. what did you think of the incident with kanye west? >> oh, i think that's always silly when people show their butts like that. i feel like he probably was embarrassed about it later. anyway, i thought she handled it really well and i think everybody just wanted to smack a knot on his head. i think it was all -- you know, what can you say? it was what it was. you know? >> you know, you've had so much success in your career. do you ever just -- you made a lot of money at this point. let's tell the truth here. did you ever think of maybe giving it up and just rolling around in your money? >> no. i never just wanted to roll around in my money. i always said i'd count my blessings more than i, you know, count my money, but i have had a great career. i really like what i do. like you. i really enjoy the people, i enjoy the performing. i love making things happen and seeing things happen. i've been at it since i was a little bitty kid. i

the nashville, tennessean says he was just chegesturing to the bench. he was sitting with roger goodell for part of the game. the matchup between tom brady and peyton manning was overshadowed by this call. they were up by six with two minutes left. they don't get it. so that means the colts get the ball back. just an incredible decision, and peyton manning makes them pay. and they score, and makes them . the colts join the saints as the league's only unbeaten teams. >>> it was the veteran against the rookie and the vet got the best. 40-year-old brett favre continues to shut critics' mouths. meanwhile, matt stafford was made to look like a rookie. he's going to be very sore today. >>> the most hyped women's golfer in years lived up to the hype. michelle won. she signed a big deal with nike, it was like, oh, my gosh, she's too young to go pro. she shed a few tears after the win. >>> and it was literally lights out. the home depot center goes dark in the middle of the game. twice this happened. david beckham's team won. reports are there was a failure in t

right there in nashville when taylor made history becoming the youngest entertainer of the year ever at the country music association awards. the buzz was about the guy who wasn't there. you have to see the bashing kanye got. making big news, levi johnston revealing a personal connection to, of all people, jon gosselin. joining me in owe is whitney casey, a relationship expert and author of this book, "the man plan." carlos as is a correspondent for extra. you saw my "showbiz tonight" exclusive interview with donald trump talking about carrie prejean. we just got the late breaking results of the "showbiz tonight" poll. take a look at this. we asked carrie prejean versus donald trump. is the beauty queen in over her head? look at it. 91% said cary is in way over her head. only 9% said no. she is getting bad guidance. did the poll get it right? she will regret the day she picked a fight with donald? >> i thought larry king was gracious and extremely classy when she was calling him inappropriate over and over again. i can guarantee, carrie, that the donald probably is tougher than that.

i mean, in my community in nashville, you know, i have, you know, gmc, denalis and chevies all over the place. the question is to me, you know, in passing major serious climate legislation, the question actually has to back up three steps and say, does the american public care? are we engaging in them in this discussion in the right way? you know, can -- what was that? >> are we? >> no, i don't think so. i mean, i'm a liberal, you know, who basically thinks that liberals are not handling this issue very well. and i for that matter don't think the conservatives are handling this matter very well. i think the conversation is shrill. it's preachy. it's polemical. it's very divisive. and it's very hard -- it's very intimidating for people to -- for, you know, most americans to engage in this conversation. so that's a problem. and i think that's a bigger problem than, you know, in many ways what's happening in congress right now. because congress isn't going to move until we move. . go ahead. [inaudible] >> do you talk about nuclear energy in the book? and how do you feel about it? >> the gr

it's supplying this whole thing with the heavy rain in north georgia through nashville, tennessee, intoart of the carolinas. let me zoom into the area where the center of circulation is located, right off toward the northwest of this region, right around mobile bay. here is orange beach. things have begun to clear out a bit for you. let me show you tape from just a couple of minutes ago. center of circulation to your north, drier air feeding on in. this is the way it looked about ten minutes ago in orange beach. how beautiful is that? >> that is pretty. >> you can see the feeder bands supplying that whole monster with a lot of rain. we're talking three to six inches of rain on top of what you've already seen in central alabama, eastern mississippi, parts of georgia, too. we still have the tropical storm warnings, all the areas shaded in red. inland tropical warnings around southern alabama. check out some of the winds, not bad toward the green point area in florida, but you you really get the winds out of this feeder band, the main one coming in toward tallahassee, stretching all the wa

after the first couple of years the women who started in memphis and nashville decided to retire. their succession plan was kind of selling to the owner of the company. and then he has expanded into cleveland, his hometown, and charlotte and pittsburgh. so seven stores. yeah. we kind of focus on being regional booksellers. [inaudible conversations] >> sarah palin served as republican governor of alaska from 2006-2008 and was a republican candidate for vice president from 2008. to find out more visit facebook. >> coming up next book tv presents after words. this week nomi prins former managing director at goldman sachs and current senior fellow talks about her book "it takes a pillage: behind the bailouts, bonuses, and backroom deals from washington to wall street." she discusses the book with the senator bernard sanders of vermont. a u.s. congressman for 16 years before moving to the senate and the author of the memoire "outsider in the house." >> host: let me begin by thinking c-span for the opportunity of me interviewing nomi prins who is the author of "it takes a pillage: behin

the cmas are this weekend in nashville, tennessee. i'll be there. she's a talent, it shows. with things, laughter is one of the best ways to deal with any embarrassment in your life, over the ckanye west thing. i think she nailed it beautifully. great job. >> hyla, she seems like a natural, doesn't she? >> we know that taylor swift is a superstar in the music industry, but oh, my god, her potential is endless. if i was a studio, i might want to make a movie out of her. in the first half an hour, she takes on the jones brothers, "twilight," kanye west, and kate gosselin. that's amazing. way to go, taylor swift. >> who knew she was so funny. and speaking of kanye, she let him have it in her very funny musical monologue. it was her revenge when he grabbed the mike from her after her acceptance speech. watch this. ♪ you might be expecting me to say something bad about kanye ♪ ♪ and how he ran up on the stage and ruined my vma monologue ♪ ♪ but there's nothing more to say, cause everything's okay ♪ ♪ i've got security lining the stage ♪ >> megan, it was great, but i think in a wa

"showbiz tonight" was right there in nashville when taylor made history, becoming the youngest entertainer ever at the country music association awards last night. but the buzz was all about the guy who wasn't there, kanye west. you have got to see the bashing kanye got. >>> and also making big news today, levi johnston revealing his very personal connection to, of all people, jon gosselin. joining me tonight in new york, whitney casey, author of this book, "the man plan." also tonight in hollywood, carlos diaz, a correspondent for "extra." all right, whitney can , carlos saw my exclusive interview with donald trump today talking about carrie prejean. and i can tell you we just got the late-breaking results of the "showbiz tonight" poll. take a look at this. we asked, carrie prejean versus donald trump, is the former beauty queen in over her head? look at it. a stunning 91% said carrie is way in over her head. only 9% said she's not. you heard the donald tell me that prejean is getting some bad guidance. carlos, did our poll get that right? prejean will regret the day that she picked a fig

the women are having to drive to memphis or nashville to get their prenatal health care to have theiries. in texas, you've changed the law and you have doctors pouring back into texas. so in the rural areas of texas, doctors are more available. host: lamar alexander, you have a flight to catch. we thank you for joining us. guest: thank you for joining us. host: do you think there will be a vote on the senate floor before christmas? guest: i don't think there should be. it took us a month to debate the foreign bill. took us nine weeks to work on an energy bill. nine weeks on no child left behind. this is 1/6 of the economy. it has a dramatic effect. it's very personal. it affects all 300 million of it. so we need to take the time to discuss it. and my prediction is that as we do, americans will find out that it raises premiums, raises taxes, cuts medicare, collapses with it own weight and hopefully will get on the right track of step by step moving to reduce health care cost and gradually help people who are not now insured to become insured. host: can we have you back as the debate co

nothing brings a team and a community together better than the nashville. testify nfl. >> were you considering the quotes that i was made or the one that i read to you and the one that doesn't shine a negative light on rush limbaugh but upon the media? >> i'm not shining any kind of light rush limbaugh. i would try to re-enforce to you what i said at the time. he was not an active consideration as an nfl owner. i stated this several times before that we had not started any kind of groups. he had not determined to sell the st. louis rams. >> you were speaking directly of rush limbaugh. you said the comments rush made specifically about donovan i disagree with very strongly. >> i do. because i think donovan mcnabb is an outstanding young man. he's an outstanding quarterback. it has nothing to do with the color of his skin. >> i'll just close with this. here are rush limbaugh's -- his position with 20 years in the radio. he says my racial views you mean you mean my belief in a colorblind society where every individual is treated as a precious human being witho

. >> brandi in nashville, tennessee. go ahead. >> caller: good morning. .fine. >> caller: i have two questions i hope you don't mind. i previously in my life since i've been very young have been an animal behavioral therapist and i'm licensed to be so, i train dogs, horses, birds. i recently in '06 was running a large equine facility out in las vegas and i had two autistic clients. 7 and 9 years old. one boy was not as debilitated as the other but the one that was quite unfocused, random behavior, et cetera, what i did and i found very interesting and i just want you to comment on this is, i could not get him to focus in the lesson compared to his brother. he was a basket case so to speak. i then did something very brave one day and i took the saddle off and i put him on and i had him in the arena. and i'll tell you what, i saw a whole new kid. when he did not have the security of the saddle and he had to stay on that horse, that autism left. >> 'cause he knew he'd fall off if he didn't pay attention. >> it overrode his behavior as soon as that fear factor

with huckabee sweeping up lauro areas, mitt romney doing fabulously well in the suburbs of atlanta, nashville, and st. louis, and mccain winning by basically doing ok pretty much everywhere. if you look at those maps, it would look like there was some sort of regulation in suburban developments, just like you couldn't park your car on your lawn, you couldn't put up a huckabee for president signed. -- signed. is this sort of demographics split among republicans knew, is it reflective of longer-term trends and you think it opened up the possibility for mccain being nominated simply because there are so many people who just could not accept the other alternatives? >> these are important questions. i guess part of my response would be the maps that you referred to and so forth. there were relatively few people voting. so it is hard to get enough in a survey to definitively define who these constituencies were. the way we can for mccain, for whatever his shortcomings, amassed a large enough group that we got a substantial number of voters who identified with him. i suppose you might say it is a sh