ray observatory he's one of the nasser's eyes into space the third of projected for great observatories chandra has been providing scientists with valuable high quality data called ken is an iris is one of those who helped develop and improve the telescope his fear of space expertise is extremely broad you can use it as a member of the national academy of sciences and the international academy of astronautics to name a few no wonder he has overall responsibility for research activity and policy at the massachusetts institute of technology these days claude is one of those who are advising on russia's innovative development as he's been doing recently on a poor and on nanotechnology is in moscow. hello mr curtis as the welcome to the show thank you as opposed to the bank i thank you very much for coming well first of all thank you i want to ask you. when the an author was appointed as head of the un office for outer space affairs it provoked lots of talk lots of rivers in the media that she was the woman that will be responsible for contacts with the civilizations well the un have course

he said nasser chance. nationalize, take them over. you know what roosevelt said?n the conservative traction. he said no nationalization. exactly the same as obama. now you say, is that because roosevelt and obama were both just the tools of wall street? no, it was because they made a judgment that that would be better for the country for banking to be in private hands. and it was a trillion dollars that would've cost us if we had gone down the nationalization group. turned out tanks were healthier, stress tests work, geiger did some good things, some bad things, real bad things, but also some good things. turned out to be really smart. they came back to. we think a trillion dollars by not nationalizing. >> talk about shibboleth, nationalization was a shibboleth. this is not what people were asking for. but people were demanding was that the zombie banks, and saw the pink speed taken into receivership. you clear up the management, with both the stockholders. the bondholders become the stockholders. you put in place the new owners put in place management. you segreg

taking part in these demonstrations and it's just because they graduate from universities, and under nasser in the old days they were all guaranteed jobs. and the government's done away with that. it can't guarantee jobs any more. but people come out of university with certain expectations that they're going to be employed and they're just not met. and in addition, in egypt and in recent years there's just been a sense that the government doesn't care any more. there's been a string of kind of disasters. there was a train incident i covered where cars on a train caught fire and 300 people burned to death and they just kind of uncoupled the rest of the train and went on its way. and there was a ferry sinking where i think a thousand people died and the government almost reacted -- didn't react until people demonstrated and were furious about what the safety standards were. and on and on, incidents like that. and i think that over the years there was always, when i lived there there was always the sense of the anger bleeneetsdz the surface. and then -- beneath the surface. and along came tuni