>> that sadat said that to nasser? >> now, nasser had said that sadat. >> i couldn't dispute that. i know a whole lot about a little and i know a whole lot about what i just talked to you about. i couldn't dispute that. i think there is still work to be done on the evolution of things after the eisenhower years with the diplomatic historians has been to assume the eisenhower doctrine and the eisenhower policies for abject failures and nasser and have been allied with the soviets. i'm not sure nonservice ever really -- it's to this soviets help told. that's true, but i'm not sure each of ever became what you could really call the satellite of the soviet union. nasser played both sides and whether the united states became trusted company could take that statement and look at it two or three different ways. certainly the allies didn't think he could be trusted to do what they wanted. i'm sorry it's a poor answer. i'm just not qualified to answer it even better. >> i think if i know my history fairly correctly, that the role of israel after world war ii, which was the implementation of

security doesn't decide to take a vacations but there's another problem here and that's the media nasser jason. was arrested for plotting to fort hood texas. skys a muslim and you know he was apparently planning something really nasty had guns and he had bombs and you know kinds of you know the stuff that happens and the media went nuts today i mean absolutely nuts take a look at this montage. the arrest of an a wall muslim american soldier he's been on the run since two thousand and ten arrested today with allegedly plans to possibly set off two bombs near fort hood in clean texas law enforcement officials that they suspect he was planning an attack in or around before fort hood area private first class do was have arrested at a traffic stop in texas where he said the suspect was nabbed in a hotel room full of explosives after going a wall in june and this is a federal investigation so private first class nasser jason abdo is now in city jail bases federal charges. so we have that it's all terrorism all the time now and the definition of terrorism and this isn't in dispute the definitio

>> said i said that to nasser? >> no comment nasser said that is about. >> that is another thing. know a whole lot about a little. i know a whole lot about what i just talked with you about. i couldn't dispute that. i think there is still work to be done on the evolution of things after the eisenhower years. the diplomatic historians, as soon the eisenhower doctrine and policies were abject failures and that he ends up being allies with the soviets. i'm not sure he was ever -- it's true that the soviets helped build the dam. that's true. i'm not sure egypt ever became what you could really call a satellite of the soviet union. he played both sides against the middle. whether the united states to be trusted, you could take that statement and looked at it to a three different ways, couldn't you. certainly the allies didn't think he could be trusted to do what they wanted. i'm sorry it is a poor answer. and just not qualified to answer it any better. >> thank you. >> i think, if i know my history fairly correctly that the role of israel after world war two which was the implementatio

officials say the arrested serviceman, jason abdo nasser was planning an attack on military personneland now on the state of the u.s. economy. >> lawmakers failed to reach agreement on capitol hill and many americans are struggling under the burden of high unemployment and an uncertain financial future. it is a story reminiscent of that told by john steinbeck in his pulitzer prize-winning novel "the grapes of wrath," which was published 80 years ago. >> with unemployment rising, the great american job search goes on. albuquerque is still suffering from the bus that followed the house price boom. it posted a fall in unemployment in june due in part to a public sector job pick up. but those that do not succeed, there's the problem of where to live. george mÜnchen is a shelter for the homeless. -- joy junction is a shelter for homeless. it is run by jeremy reynolds. >> is it bad? rex absolutely, and i expected to get worse. >> why? >> because we will see more, and some will come back. >> normally the families that came here were coping with drugs or violence. now there is a new customer,

when one of the bullets his answer nasser in the leg he was taken to an ambulance. to a we were the bullet for all sites when the cuts my trousers open it was a rubber bullets as it's got stuck in a song i can't see it as a souvenir of sorts. of. the police brutality in dealing with the demonstrators spurred the public into action. and unprecedented number of people joined the opposition within a short period of. numerous protests rallies and demonstrations were held. one of the government bowed to pressure to make some concessions several unpopular measures were cancelled but the move deepened the budget deficit. and democrat democracy will set in only after several generations those who once had any idea of democracy have become soviet people in spirit you know so have all of our politicians. the founder and owner of the park featuring the history of soviet lithuania says he's lucky that he's lived in a free country for the past twenty years but he notes the growing nostalgia for the soviet period. mrs pessimistic about his country's future and he's skeptical abou

went awol and now a soldier is accused of planning a terror attack on a military base. 21-year-old nasser abdu in a hotel near fort hood, texas, with weapons and showives stashed in the room. he refused to deploy to afghanistan because of his religious beliefs and applied for a discharge as a conscientious object. >> if you feel that being in the military, violates your conscience, use this army regulation because that's what it's here for. >> abdu went awol after he was charged with possessing child pornography. he said he wanted to attack fellow soldiers outside fort hood. this is the same military base were 13 people were killed in a 2009 shooting spree. >>> a street party today for lady gaga put on by jimmy kimmel has los angeles police very nervous. a riot broke out the other day for a similar event. a dejay tweeted he was holding a block party and it got out of hand and police had to arrest several people. lady gaga's concert will go on but security will be extra tight and fingers crossed everything will go smoothly. >> back in a moment. stay with us. "raise the debt ceiling". >> if

law enforcement sources tell cbs news that 21-year-old army private nasser abdo admits he was seeking retaliation for what he says the army did to him. they say he intended to attack the sprawling army post at ft. hood in texas. >> i'll just say that military personnel were a target of this suspect. >> reporter: in 2009 a shooting rampage at ft. hood left 13 dead and 30 others injured but on wednesday a suspicious clerk at this gun shop near the base may have been the difference in preventing another tragedy. the clerk tipped off police after abdo asked for advice on building explosives. he tried to buy weapons and six canisters of smokeless gun powder. >> the first red flag is when he asked kathy, "what is smokeless powder?" if you don't know what it is, why would you buy six pounds of it? >> reporter: police tracked abdo to this motel, not far from the army post. a search turned up weapons, ammunition and potential components for building a bomb. authorities arrested abdo just in time, they say. >> we would probably be here today giving you a different briefing had he not been stopp

on friday's new york times they have another alleged terror case, this fellow, nasser jason abdo in texasle art will in the new york times, don't mention al-qaeda, don't mention muslim not once, and even talk about his relationship with god, passive-- conscious objectors and passivist, don't mention allah, just mention god generally and no mention of muslim. >> and that story was out before i knew this guy was a muslim and that perhaps he was acting in the name of jihad. i couldn't find it anywhere in the coverage. >> jon: time for another break. if you see something that shows evidence to you of media bias, e-mail us at news watch@foxnews.com. up next, the the latest in the phone hacking scandal coverage. >> for quick action to defend her husband earns wendy some positive press. and nbc takes a shot at abc over the practice of checkbook journalism. details next on news watch. now?! [ female announcer ] crest whitestrips two hour express. in just two hours you can have a noticeably whiter smile that lasts for months. hi. hi. [ female announcer ] two hour whitestrips from crest. life opens

hundred forty million dollars and had asked for a transfer last december for the tour his request is nasser city who want to land a two million dollars for the forward also crowns wheaton wages three hundred thousand dollars. well meanwhile city have confirmed the signing of defender gouty she from arsenal twenty five year old has penned a four year deal for a fee or to be around eleven million dollars the france player become city's first signing with the summer and will contest the left back position with alexander collier of. nicette blatter has reiterated feed his commitment to pour millions of dollars into the development of football in africa the president of the sport's governing body was speaking in zimbabwe after meeting top local officials but i held closed door talks with both zimbabwean president robert mugabe and prime minister morgan china i. returned to south africa for the first time since last year and cup last also visited a local women's football match as well as construction sites for new pitches the seventy five year old swiss was reelected risky for sue preventing last

time this season the german will go third ahead of the ferrari and under a long slow and philippe nasser to sadie's eco rosberg the six and jenson button seventh off the new ball to run however all this could change also. they have the latest weather forecast picks and eighty four percent chance of rain for the start of the race. citing that and get out evans is set to become a stray as first tour de france winner after a stunning time trial victory in the suburbs of grenoble the thirty four year old and two time runner up overcame a fifty seven second deficit to take the yellow jersey from andy schleck with his father frank schleck in third peddles a largely ceremonial final stage in paris germany's tony martin one saturday state former evans defending champion alberto contador was at. football now and fever has banned for life former executive mohamad been her man after the sport's governing body found the official guilty of attempted bribery ahead of last month's presidential vote the ethics committee ruled that he conspired to pay caribbean voters for their support the sixty two year

police believe nasser abdo wanted to replicate a second ft. hood massacre.grey ♪ you'll never know, dear ♪ how much i love you ♪ please don't take my sunshine away ♪ [ male announcer ] as long as there are babies, they'll be chevy's to bring them home. ♪ [oinking] [hissing] [ding] announcer: cook foods to the right temperature using a food thermometer. 3,000 americans will die from food poisoning this year. check your steps at foodsafety.gov. >>> all right. you remember the fiat? the italian car company. they have taken over chrysler. they want you to see the newest model. you remember the tiny car? in the '60s and '70s. they were cheap and filled the streets of europe. a couple have made it to the u.s. we have a couple in front of the cnn center. reynolds, people love these cute cars. introduce us to the fiat. the new fiat. >> it is right here behind us. we have sean evans. can you give us an idea of the focus group? >> they are geared toward everyone. 18-year-old college students to the 80-year-old grandmother. the car is perfect for anyone who wants to ge

bosnian muslim general is responsible for his best but i do know that i was only nine years old when nasser all rich took away everything i had a right person killed my mother then my father and brother i was taken captive they helped me put fifty six days and only god knows why i survived. but even though gonna survive his loss just like that thousands of people here is being ignored or each was at the hague tribunal and i was supposed to be a witness in his trial but in the end me and about thirty other witnesses were simply cost a side they didn't cause you didn't ask what happened to our families and the tribunal only gave him two years in prison. the bulk of your story keenest atrocities visited an old sites and perpetrated by all players but the version most often propagated by western media is rather one sided ingraining the serbs. from the stream and create a rationale for so-called humanitarian interventions in the curb and considerable number. of circuits so that so-called precedent can be traced through the years and into case headlines bosnia iraq afghanistan and most recently l

brotherhood as a useful potential ally against an arab nationalism against anti-christ arab nationalism nasser i did originally from sadat representative egypt recently they have been looking at the arab spring to a collapsible threat to paris to regimes some former allies like with barak and you call those enemies like assad even syria and they see the muslim brotherhood which is an underground organization who these countries as a protect all for control of the poor somebody they have to deal with the big question of american so is completely going to be the dominant part of the muslim brotherhood which. is after all. the cars are in the bank although america has been a great deal with so many fundamentalist groups like in saudi arabia for many years quite happily and there was a probable make comes to do with the muslim brotherhood and will detail work with all who will be americans able to find a way of living with the brotherhood in egypt to its rights to its ally israel well let's look forward now we need the brotherhood is going to sounds of parliamentary elections scheduled for septemb

it will no doubt spread to other countries notably it will go bolivia and perhaps even argentina nasser's how the telescope has been a space watch a war course for two lonely decades but now it gets to share the job of revealing the universe's biggest mysteries a russian eye in the sky is on its way to help out and it's packing the sharpest tools and then own galaxy i think mary international was at the baikonur cosmodrome and has a stand up. this is the moment a russian space scientists have been waiting for for decades the space observatory equipped with a cutting edge telescope a huge top and universities for ration as an enormous i will be able to see further and deeper than ever before it will be possible to observe the most mysterious the doc has. the most shadowed corners of our galaxy and other galaxies as well and stars even to be able to observe black holes and shed light on the bare dark nature of these huge enormous i will be able to provide detailed images detailed pictures of the universe with a resolution ten thousand times shop of america's. so we can see something's happe

still ahead a final step in nasser history is quite gloomy whether atlantis is set to lift off on the last ever shuttle flight along thousands wait for the momentous larger problems it's the end of an era possibly the right. premier remakes a top russian d.j. hopes his version of lavender putin's blueberry hill will be a future classic for. the first though crowds of pro palestinian activists have been blocked in european airports they're trying to head for a television mission to ease the gaza blockade some have made it through carrying signs calling for a free palestine but have met with an angry reaction from israeli passengers in your arrivals hall or his policy or has more from israel's ben gurion airport. well we're talking here of some six hundred israeli police and security officers both inside and outside ben-gurion international airport and city at this stage it does seem a little excessive when you bear in mind that almost all the activists have been prevented from actually reaching the state court now we are talking with a number of high profile left wing israeli activists

first though nasser's final shuttle flight is due to blast off in the next few hours though bad weather conditions could cause a delay or two a million spectators are waiting to witness the historical large but. reports it's also a poignant moment for those who build their lives around the program. empty shells of what was once florida's thriving space coast. up to ten thousand people will be out of a job as soon as the last shuttle makes its final voyage back to earth home to many of the kennedy space center workers rock which is on the verge of becoming a ghost town without a space program or pretty much nothing i mean this is what you know cocoa beach is built on the space program you know just a lot of you are going to be on the job sorry me out people out there left and right food stamps anthony chris a fully spent twenty three years with the shuttle launch team as an engineer with a client his blasting out for its final mission it means the end of his career with nasa and the beginning of uncertainty a year ago he started looking for a new job to no avail i have applied for jobs a

nasser invited him to a meeting. he said, i'll hold on that, you should meet with elijah mohamed first. he writes this article in the pittsburgh courier about all of these connections he's make anything 1959 while still in the nation of islam. fast forward to 1964 when he's traveling, guess who he begins writing? guess who he begins contacting? the people that he met in 1959. so this is the kind of work that is done in this book. so you get a fuller sense that what happens in 1964 doesn't come out of nowhere, it comes out of this longer engagement malcolm had with the muslim world. now, as to the, um, the human side of malcolm, you know, malcolm, um, most of us who have studied malcolm, read his autobiography, read his speeches or listened to his speeches captivating -- one of the best speakers of the 20th century, sharp political thinker. but he was not a political machine. he was a human being. he was, i mean, he really tried to be a machine at one point according to what we have in this book. he has to check himse

authorities have one person in custody, nasser jason abdo with the first brigade come pat team and heloy to afghanistan and applied for conscientious objector status and haves that was rejected an overruled and then they started investigating child porn on his government issued computer. bill: and, nadal hasan killed 13 and wounded 30 and, rocked not just texas but the entire military then, jennifer griffin, thank you, exclusive details on the story breaking now at the pentagon. more when we get it right here, alisyn. alisyn: house republicans, as we told you you, just leaving a closed-door meeting as they work to advance the boehner debt bill but none of the g.o.p. leadership stepped up to the microphone, more on what our capitol hill sources are learning about their conversations, as we await the key vote. bill: and this is not your typical movie premier now, is it? the riots sparked by a lonely little tweeted. >> i'm not going to let them tell me what to do, where to go and where i can't and can stand. bill: here we go with a fox news alert now, awaiting reaction to the boehner bil

we've obtained a video of private nasser abdo from the middle east research institute and an interview he gave to al-jazeera a year ago on the eve of his first deployment to afghanistan. he is shown praying, he talks about being a miss him. -- muslim. >> where i can't both deploy and be a muslim. [speaking in native tongue] >> reporter: according to the army antiterrorism and force protection report, abdo bought three boxes of 12 gauge ammunition, smokeless gun powder and a magazine for a .9 mm gun. he paid for the m items in cash and left in a taxi cab. the owner of the gun store called police, he was picked up at an america's best value "squawk on the street"s, we're told, he also paid for in cash an army uniform to include local fort hood patches. law enforcement officials tell fox they suspect he was planning an attack in or around the fort hood area. of course, that was the site of the november 2009 shooting that left 13 u.s. soldiers dead. now, um, that case of major hassan nadal is ongoing. it took a turn just a week ago when his lawyer quit, but all of this is the backdrop to a

nasser could face additional charges. >>> president obama says the famine in east africa has not received the attention it deserves in the u.s. he called for an international response. drought and famine in somalia affected more than 11 million people. several million live in an area controlled by a militant group with ties to al qaeda. aid groups are not being permitted to deliver food to the air. 19 minutes past the hour. back to rebecca. >>> two american hikers who have been imprisoned in iran on spy charges for two years are at a turning paint. shane bauer and josh fattal are expected in court in iran for what their families hope to be a lead to freedom. >> reporter: they have in prison since 2009, bauer had been hiking along the unmarked iraq/iran border with his fiance sarah shourd and friend josh fattal. shourd was released last september and returned to the u.s. bauer and fattal have not been seen since last february. their frustrating ordeal highlighted by a series of courtroom postponements most recently in may. the long road to justice has been especially hard for the family wh

police say a muslim american army private planned to attack fellow soldiers at fort hood. 21-year-old nasserhop tipped off police he looked suspicious and purchased a lot of ammunition. he was awol from fort campbell, kentucky. police believe he was acting alone. >>> tomorrow in norway police will interview anders breivik for the second time. >>> inside a texas courtroom today, warren jeffs fired his defense team and opted to represent himself in his child sexual assault trial. but when it was time for him to present his opening statement he refused. jeffs issed leader of a mormon fundamental sect. >>> the trufsee tried to get money from bernie madoff ponzi scheme -- tremont group holdings has agreed to pay $1 billion to the victim's compensation fund. >>> speaking of money, someone offer add bid for nearly $1 million to buy this rubber rendering of casey anthony's face. the mask was auctioned on e-bay. now we'll see if they actually come through with the money. >> i don't understand that at all. why would someone do that? >> i don't know. it doesn't make any sense. woman: saving for our chi

afternoon there looks like it'll be another warm day >> the armies as any wall soldiers and this is nasserabdulla he is a muslim american his set and his religious believe prevented him from going to war >> this is the texas motel where they closed in on the 21 year-old yesterday they went after him because he was a wall and was in possession of child pornography. he was buying a lot of odd things and asking all lot of odd questions >> during the investigation suspicious materials were found in his hotel room and to further charges will be filed >> they found a shotgun shells and ammunition and materials at ellen looked like they were making a bomb he said last year he was a conscientious objector and that's what he said in in every upon >> the causes quinces have outweigh with the consequent sense i would have a of being deployed. >> he faces a death sentence parent it is purchasing a the same now runs store where the other guns where purchased a quick look outside as we head for a break outside we can see the lights on the span this morning although the fog is not as effective keep it tu

. >> the fbi says nasser has firearms and bomb making material inside his hoe toll room.scientious objector status after he claim his muslim beliefs prevented him from fighting. back in 2009, 13 people were killed in a mass shooting at that texas army post. >>> forecasters predicting tropical storm don will make landfall along the texas coastline tomorrow or saturday. don is about 423 5* miles east or southeast of corpus christi. maximum hurricane centers clockion maximum wind speeds 45 miles an hour. not expected to grow into an actual hurricane. for now, back to greta with on the record, stay tuned. >> greta: first he was pull of praise calling president obama remarkable. now, he says the president is wreckless. that is a switch. what happened? former u.s. ambassador to china and former presidential contender john huntsman. >> i think the boehner is the only act in town and it is sound given any other ai alternative. it cuts and allows us to meet our obligations and begins to meet our budget. i think it would be terribly important for this country and also envisions loo

army private first class nasser abdo, charged with having a destructive device. was leaving court, shouted the name aaccused shooter major nadle hassan set to have his trial and potentially get the death penalty. how do they deal with violent extremists within their own ranks? walid phares, the author of coming revolution, struggle for freedom in the middle east. good to see you, good afternoon. >> good afternoon, jamie, thank you. >> jamie: is it safe to say that the u.s. military is the the subject and focus of attacks by jihadists? >> with no question. first al-qaeda and other jihadist organizations websites for the last many years, about eight years, have been falling on their supporters, not just the ones who can penetrate the united states, but those who can radicalize and recruited or recruit themselves inside the united states to take on national security and national security mainly is first of all, defense security and other agencies, including the ministry, on american soil. >> how valuable is it for them to have a subject like this? someone who used t

necessity of these relationships but we like to venture that would have the benefits that all of the nasser thought billy will go away. >> host: vasari the dialogue is taking place between u.s. and china, which is to say china is probably running through the end of its course of making argument we're simply a developing country, we can't afford to bear the burdens of international leadership that the united states has been paying. the first sign china wants to be recognized as the second largest economy in the world, growing toward eating at some point in the next couple of decades the largest economy in the world. at some point those conversations are going to meet. and the question of who pays the bill for global leadership and what is required in order to sustain that is going to come. i want to back up, december 31, 1991. you call the breakpoint in history. the collapse of the soviet union is what happened on that day. and the birth of the post-soviet era, not only in american foreign policy but in terms of literally rewriting the map of the world as we knew it. two decades later we're

private nasser adbul yelled out name of person accused of killing 13 people at same army post, major necessary dal hasan. killed 13 people at the days. after he was arrested police found weapons and bomb-making materials in his hotel room where he was staying near the main gate of fort hood. we'll have a live report for you on all these 1re8ments in moments. >>> just hour after president obama make as last minute appeal to lawmakers to resolve the debt crisis we're hearing reports that administration officials are preparing for what happens if the august 2nd deadline comes and goes with no deal for the country to borrow more money. welcome to "america live" everyone. i'm alisyn camerota in for megyn kelly. just last night house leaders pulled the plug on a vote for john boehner's debt proposal. right now a revamped bill is making its way around congress with the possibility of a vote sometime this afternoon. president obama is now pushing for a deal, warning the u.s. is almost out of time. he also had this to say about speaker boehner's plan. >> right now the house of representatives

>> reporter: hi, good morning to you, jenna. 21-year-old nasser abdu spent the night in jail, and he'llear before a magistrate in federal court where he'll have those federal charges of bomb making read against him. but this morning we're learning new information coming from texas congressman john carter who says he has been led to believe that abdu allegedly planned to set off one, maybe two bombs in and around a crowded restaurant that at the time would probably be full of fort hood soldiers and their family members. and the allegation goes on that as those soldiers would run for safety, abdu allegedly planned to shoot at his fellow soldiers. apparently, the information that congressman carter is gathering is that the attack wasn't a direct attack at fort hood because he just simply wasn't familiar with the army post itself. remember, fort hood is the largest military installation in the country, it spans some 350 square miles. it's also important that we keep in mind this was all foiled by an alert gun store employee who noticed what he described as strange behavior, and he reported

nasser abdo was charged today of possession of an unregistered destructive device.kely. he's being held without bail. >>> in oslo a memorial service for those killed one week ago in norway's twin terror attacks. the first funerals were held today as well. meantime, another person injured in the attacks has died raising the death toll to 77. >>> and something to chew on as the debt ceiling battle rages, as you mentioned at the top anderson, tech giant apple now has more cash on hand than the u.s. treasury. apple signature on $76.2 billion, about 2 billion more than uncle sam at this point. >> that's amazing. >> that's a lot of money. >> tom, thanks very much. a lot more ahead at the top of the hour. breaking news tonight, senate debate on a bill to end the debt crisis on hold until sunday. house bill to do it rejected tonight. details ahead. 56 i love that my daughter's part fish. but when she got asthma, all i could do was worry ! specialists, lots of doctors, lots of advice... and my hands were full. i couldn't sort through it all. with unitedhealthcare, it's diffe

and think you are seeing nasser redefining its mission. -- i think you are seeing nasa redefine its mission. the goal is to get to mars. a good pit stop is to get to an asterisk. we have not identify the actual asteroid yet, in case people are wondering. let's start stretching the boundaries so we're not doing the same thing over and over again. let's start thinking about the next horizon and frontier out there. to do that, we will need some technological breakthroughs that we do not have yet. for some of the low orbit stuff, for some of the low orbit stuff, more routine space travel , let's allow the private sectors to get in so that they can send these low orbit vehicles into space. we may be able to achieve a point in time where you can buy a ticket and a private carrier can potentially taking up there while the government focuses on the big breakthroughs the require much larger investments and involve greater risks. >> we received a lot of responses to your questions over the last hour. this one is from brian. cut defense contracting, stop the war on drugs, eliminate agricultural and bu

[captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] >> join us later today for remarks by a nasser administrator to talk about what is ahead for the inagency. astronaut mark kelly will be in attendance as well. that gets under way at 1:00 eastern. you can watch it live on c-span. at 8:00 eastern, henry kissinger will take part in a debate in toronto. the topic is china in the 21st century. that gets underway at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. yesterday the u.s. sentencing commission voted in favor of making clothes or crack cocaine sentencing guidelines retroactive for prisoners already serving time for offenses. the final vote was unanimous. retroactivity will become effective on november 1 of this year. congress now has until the end of october to reject or modify the guidelines. this is about an hour. >> is there a motion to do so? is there a second camp of any discussion? now we need a vote on the motion. all in favor say aye. any opposed? the motion carries. now we move on to the matter before the commission today. good afternoon to everyone. thank you for coming to this importan

nasser abdo, a 21-year-old soldier in texas, fort hood, was going to plan this attack on fort hood, andas up. but here we go again. we talk about this home grown terror threat and it's growing and it's a big problem. >> well, i don't know how big it is, but i certainly feel that this is a psychotic individual who happens to be a muslim and i think he embraces muslim terrorism to cover his real problem, which is he is being discharged from the military because he's a important graph. i do believe that he really had mass murder on his mind. i say as an aside, isn't it kind of frightening that someone can go into a gun store and buy six pounds of smokeless gun powder to begin with? >> gretchen: isn't it kind of frightening that this guy can be a member of the u.s. military when two years ago he said he couldn't go to afghanistan because he couldn't fight muslims? my goodness, don't we have a system where you're done! >> i agree with you. what the hell are you having a conscientious objector. when you join the military, you're joining the institution, the sole purpose of which is to protect

more firm separation of the religious dimension from the state because the states, starting with nasser, pointed the grand mosque the and our tar. so these folks were always under the space. these folks wanted separation. now, monks the muslim brothers, there are some -- there are now a variety coming out but early on the brothers were saying we want a secular state. but i think that there is more of a clearer, actually interestingly enough, distinction between religion and state and not that it is going to be easy to work this out and there will be some folks that will want to mess it up, to blend it more, but i think we should really think about that. these terms, we don't know what the terms mean and a longer. they are much fuller and more complex and the religious -- the more conservative or religious folks will still have to play in the democratic sort of arena and it is expected that the brothers will get -- some people think 30 and some people think 30% and so they have a lot going for them. but still, they need to also be attentive. now the other issue is of course the supreme c

come out and they want a firm separation of religion from the state, because the state starting with nasserhese folks who were always under the state. they want the separation. the muslim brothers, there are now a variety of statements coming out, but early on, the brothers were saying we want a secular state. i think that there is more of a distinction between religion and state, not that it is going to be easy to work this out, and there will be some folks that will want to mess it up, to blend it more, but we should think about it. we do not know what the terms mean any longer. they're much more awful and complex -- much more full and complex. the more conservative religious folks will still have to play in the democratic arena, and it is expected that the brothers -- some people think 30%, some people think 50%, and they have a lot going for them, they need to also be at 10 dead. the other issue is of course the supreme council of the armed forces, and there are folks that are very nervous about how long they will stay there and how much control they are having. so you have the army, th