now they are much closer to the age that natalee was.do you think you will be closer to ever finding out what happened? do you feel you're closer because joran is behind bars though he may never talk? >> with joran in prison our chances of finding out what happened to natalee are much greater. but i feel, as i said, he is where he belongs. now i can focus on things that i can. "vanished" is for americans to see that missing persons cases don't have to be an epidemic. i think there are things i can focus on now. >> we are so glad you're doing well. it looks like you're keeping the word out there and hopefully finding answers. thank you so much. beth holloway and tracy pollan. great to have you here. >> thank you. >> our best to michael and the kids. >> catch it tonight on lifetime immediately followed by the series premier of "vanished" with beth holloway at 10:00/9:00 central. coming up, we check in with the class of 2020 and meet an unforgettable 3rd grader who is thriving despite autism. first, these messages. the best approach to food

is there any doubt that potentially natalee is still alive?ich he murdered stephanie floor relation. that put it in perspective to me about murdering natalee. >> did it take a long time to come to that realization after hearing that case with ms. flores? >> it did. to me, it was shocking news for me to hear that joran had murdered another young woman. that all came in to perspective to me that he's a violent -- he's a killer, you know? >> to do a show like this, some would think, why would you want to put yourself through that, you're hearing from all of the other people and the torment and the torture they would have to go through. and we would kind of surface feelings that you would have. you didn't feel that way. this is something you embraced and wanted to do. >> it's interesting because to "vanish," now that i'm doing it with a huge platform with lifetime and reaching the people, i had been doing it quietly in the years before. five years i had gone in to the search of a missing loved one, working with law enforcement, helping to organize

talk to me about identity how that plays natalee into the history of zimbabwe but the current politics is it just led by the white farmer? with the postcolonial ganes? is that why zimbabwe has been left hanging out there with no future? >> the black opposition working his way to the union movement mugabe book like to make it a race. if there are 20,000 whites it is a lot is minuscule and although many elderly the talk about this zimbabwe diaspora. but the black diaspora is absolutely enormous especially with middle-class. so taka ratio someone like me is a white person but i was born and grew up in zimbabwe. i never left africa until i went to university per car have a strange hybrid identity and we would send each other christmas cards with snow where we never sees no. [laughter] is weird and no it is far more whites but what is happening and what i find so ironic is of the black diaspora they have that experience elsewhere. now from montreal or london or sydney and the children are being born and grew up there. is zimbabwe itself that is interesting is the struggle going on for over

americans have natalee seen but felt the consequences of barack obama's america as ronald reagan saidin a battle for freedom in america thed same battle thatme founded our country thismadi same that james madison reaffirmed with the bill of rights and the same battle that founded our party 1854. wisconsin of course, but we're in a battle forunit freedom for opportunity and in america and children and their children. do we have a country that leads? or follows. to have a country of makers were takers 211 people writing the wagon lowered driving the by gannett? this stakes are high and the consequences are very real. that brings me to the rnc. i can promise on my life that like all of you here, i did not run for chairman because i was rated the future of the republican party and you are not here because you are concerned about the future of the rnc iran for chairman of this party because i am concerned about the future of thisi country i know we have the battle to fight we have to save america that is whyer o iran for chairman of this party the reorganization to coordinate our ground op