pleased to be here with natalia mehlman-petrzela and jonathan kozol who needs no introduction. to get us started today, given that this is the panel i get a chance to work with we are going to start with one of my favorite questions just to get to know them better and ask both jonathan kozol and natalia mehlman-petrzela to tell your education story. let's start with jonathan kozol. your education story. >> i began by going to harvard college majoring in english which people said would be useless in the real world. i love literature, could have spent my whole life writing about metaphysical poetry, john donne and elizabethans. by some fluke i won a rhodes scholarship, went to oxford, got bored they're actually and so i moved to paris, fortunate that some older riders took me under their wing. one was probably only a few of you will remember, a wonderful writer named james jones who wrote to the world war ii classic from here to eternity. james baldwin was there and other writers. i came back to the united states in 64, and suddenly i heard the voice of dr. king on radio and tv.

pleased to be here with natalia mehlman-petrzela and jonathan kozol who needs no introduction.to get us started today, given that this is the panel i get a chance to work with we are going to start with one of my favorite questions just to get to know them better and ask both jonathan kozol and natalia mehlman-petrzela to tell your education story. let's start with jonathan kozol. your education story. >> i began by going to harvard college majoring in english which people said would be useless in the real world. i love literature, could have spent my whole life writing about metaphysical poetry, john donne and elizabethans. by some fluke i won a rhodes scholarship, went to oxford, got bored they're actually and so i moved to paris, fortunate that some older riders took me under their wing. one was probably only a few of you will remember, a wonderful writer named james jones who wrote to the world war ii classic from here to eternity. james baldwin was there and other writers. i came back to the united states in 64, and suddenly i heard the voice of dr. king on radio and tv. i