let's consider the russian resistance to this war than with natalie ana who is president of the free russia foundation that the u. s. based at india, that informs you as policy makers on events in russia and supports the countries democratic development. she joins us from washington. welcome to d. w. a if said the pro democracy russians are in this tragedy together with ukrainians, what did you mean by that? well, i mean that her, this was this song, worst possible nightmares or worst possible scenarios at this happening is a moment. this is not the war only as a war, ha, russia against ukraine. it's actually a war between the dictatorship funds, a democratic world. and we put them on the russians. we are fighting with his dictatorship, from the very like from the beginning and occupied the russia 1st before he started to attack its neighbors before he started to attack the democratic world. and that's why we ought to be other. we do a never thing even in 2008, we were standing together with georgia in 2014. were standing together with ukraine and we're doing a lot of things. one of