but the one thing that kind of took this all together in my mind, was i have a friend natalie chan, andn florence alabama, and she had this studio she employed women and they hand stitch beautiful clothes. and i went down and she taught me to sew. and she said you have to-the thread. and i just -- tears came to my eyes it was chilling. and i kept thinking about that, you have to love the thread. i took it to be a huge metaphor. as we were driving think the south, i was thinking about the thread. >> and these songs started coming. >> when did you know you were an arties how young were you? when you fell in love with music. >> really young, really young. i felt myself to be odd and i came to understand that that was an artistic instinct, and that it was valuable, instead of being something that you needed to push away. although it took me a long time to understand that. >> what drew you -- everybody would assume you are from nashville and the south, what drew you to new york. >> you know the saying we always thought she was weird, turns out she was just a new yorker have you ever heard th