ester, was jessica a fan of natalie cole's? >> yes, she was. cially because my mother had passed on of lung cancer a few years, in 2004. and we used to -- she was a fan of natalie's father. >> larry: who wasn't? >> yeah. that's true. and then she liked the duet, "unforgettable," to the point that the cd doesn't exist anymore, because we've run it over and over. and sometimes she would get up and put it on, and i think i scrape it, because it keeps running and running, but it's really very soothing. when you go through chemo, it's very, very trying. >> larry: are you still a nurse? >> no, i retire. so i haven't been a nurse for a while. >> larry: tell me what the meeting was like? did you meet them together? >> yes. >> larry: where did it occur, natalie, and what happened? >> it occurred at the office of one legacy, which is the organization that handles organ transplants. >> larry: who was there first? >> we were there, first, actually. i was there with my girlfriend, tammy, and my manager, barbara, i can't even remember who was there. >> larry: