natalie ostrovsky and i are visiting us. of the institute of demography, we are very glad that you cameruary 24, we saw an unprecedented unity, mutual help? we remember that then we said how ukrainians have changed, how acceptance of each other has changed , mutual aid has passed 11 months of war that we now you know, first of all, i am always thinking about whether we have really changed so much . was it somewhere hidden, well , such a unity could not have come from. nowhere did such a crazy feeling of patriotism come from, absolutely unprecedented, but i once i thought about it, but if we compare, let's say 23, 22nd year, yes, and 41-42, then there was also patriotism , there was no such thing, but it was not. because part of ukraine was only, well, annexed, i don't think that there was a force for annexation, yes, but not far, not all were delighted with such a joining, secondly, a part of the people had just experienced the red terror and the holodomor and collectivization, that is, there was opposition to this union, but now i did not see it at all, i did not see it at all, they al