natalie portman who is natalie portman.k with her about defund police, and we had celebrities sign on to it to defund police. and me and natalie had a real heart to heart, and she said, "i feel safe with the police and saying this to you makes me deeply uncomfortable, but it's true." >> trevor: wow. >> "i don't know how to deal with this contradiction. i'll go study. send me everything you have. i'll do my own research." a couple of days ago she wrote on her instagram post, "i am with the defund police program. they have kept me safe. i have called the police on people, they kept me safe. and now i understand that my safety has everything to do with black people's unsafety. that to me is where we're going. people are reimagining, taking the time. they're studying, they're trying to figure this thing out because there's no easy fix. >> yeah, and i think we have to take note of how long that process can be, right. so, like, formal protests against police violence in this country by black folks has been happening since the ear