my name is lesya vakulyuk and today i will be talking to my polish colleague, journalist nataliya valohhe most famous and influential polish newspapers, vybnybny, as well as in a magazine called tozye obtsasy, in ukrainian this name translates as high heels, actually this magazine is published by the newspaper nybnybny, it is for women and about women, but not about that , how to choose the right color lipsticks, and about what problems modern women face, and i was inspired to record this conversation by one comment during my other interview with another polish colleague, a journalist: slawomir shirakowski, this comment sounded something like this, is it so important to talk about abortion in to poland, as a journalist, that is, i dedicate a separate question to this, i realized that ukrainians, i don't know who wrote this comment, or a viewer, i don't remember, they don't fully understand the realities in which they live polish women, but i would like to understood, because it was polish women who were the ones... polish men too, but women were the driving force that at the beginning o