problem, let’s try to figure it out together with our guest, medical psychologist natalya gromova natalya hello. natalyamirovna gromova researcher, department of mental and behavioral disorders of the national research center for mental health professional activity diagnosis and correction of children with psychological developmental disorders diagnosis and correction of neurotic disorders, positive short-term psychotherapy, personality-oriented reconstructive psychotherapy, family systemic psychotherapy, mental arithmetic, mental arithmetic and children with childhood autism , improving the system of advanced training by an interdisciplinary team of specialists in effectively interacting with the family of a special child when patients come and talk about mental pain. here you are as a professional, what do you mean by this, because for sure, each patient understands something different, the patient comes. here is a soulful pain. if you'll excuse me, i'll rephrase compassion. yes, when we understand that a person is uncomfortable, to put it mildly, or very bad. we have to do something about it. and tha