coming to a decision about that in carrying forward with that, we still need to a value of the results natchez now but five, 10, 15 years from now. that is the kind of decision that is not going to affect party building that much. it is not the kind of thing if you go out and talk that much in an environment that we have. i do think that he gets that to his credit. when the bush presidency is studied, that is certainly going to be something to be looked at. >> unless the panelists have questions or comments to what to erect at one another, we're opening it to the floor. we have a microphone you can get from john as needed. are there any questions? mr. frankie? >> my question is kind of about a factor in government that i think we have skirted around besides the judiciary that we have maligned for reasons. i would talk about what is labeled as the for the state -- as the fourth estate. does the media played an active role in that development? >> they journalists want to answer that? -- do the journalists went to answer that? >> i think we touched on this a while ago. the fact that the president