. >> caller: i live in natchez, mississippi, the southern end of the natchez trace. have been to many parks and just not this summer. i happen to live in one. it's one of the largest national parks in the country if you consider length anyway. but next year the city of natchez is having the 300th anniversary, the tricentennial. it is a beautiful place to live. it is a beautiful place to see. and i have enjoyed many national parks. i have been to all the majors. i have been to the grand canyon three times and each time it's like tears crop up. i have been to yosemite, smoky mountains, too many to name. and it's the most wonderful thing that has ever happened to a country. >> if you had a chance to talk to director jarvis who joined us earlier in the segment would you have suggestions to him? it seems like you have been to a lot of places that his service manages. >> caller: yes. well, i don't know. i'm not real qualified except. after hearing erin brockovich talk about the environment and all the things about the spills, we need to really make the whole country a nati

natchez, live in mississippi. the southern end of the natchez -- i've been to many parks.happen to live in one. it's one of the largest national parks in the country if you consider length. natchezr, the city of is having his 300th anniversary -- it's 300th anniversary, the tri-centennial. it's a beautiful place to live, a beautiful place to see. i have enjoyed many national parks, i've been to all the majors, i've been to the grand canyon three times. each time, it's like tears crop up. , smokyen to yosemite mountains, too many to name. it's the most wonderful thing that has ever happened to a country. host: if you had a chance to talk to director jarvis who joined as earlier, would you have any suggestions for him? you've been to a lot of the places his service manages. well, i don't know -- i'm real qualified except to -- we need to never lose the national park. after hearing erin brockovich talk about the environment and all the things about this bills -- the spills, we need to make the whole country national park. i get so frustrated when i hear these people that want

to come down to natchez so they can try to assassinate king. mississippi is next ordinary violent place. that is something you should understand. what is going on here has a very deep and violent history. host: mr. califano:? mr. califano: i think all of that is correct. also, notice a couple of other things. one, that is why the president said to nick and to me, try and get registrars federal registrars and these counties for voting that come from the state, that come from the state. so he was very conscious of not sending yankees in to any of the states, because he did not want the southern congressmen and others to have that argument. you are sending yankees down from the south. by a large most of the federal registrars came from the states they were going to work in indy county voting areas and also, eastland the chairman of the senate judiciary committee violent segregationists. he was very important to lyndon johnson and johnson's desire to get judges through the senate that would be basically comfortable with affirmative action and civil