oscar robertson, he's a great player, jerry west, nate thurman, bill russell. all the people in the hall of fame are good players. will are just more good basketball players right now and the all-stars are super. >> i'll tell you what, let's not forget this guy once averaged 20 and 20. 20 points, 20 rebounds in a season. there's no centers in the league e might get 30-30. it would be unbelievable. but you are talking about athleticism. let's go live to the podium right now. a disappointed kevin durant is talking with the media. >> john from usa today. fellows, in the end did it come down to defense for miami? is that why they are champion? >> they just found a way to win, man. i don't think our guys came out and didn't want to defend. but, you know, just unfortunate for us and you know how hard these guys work on this team and to get better, how much family watched to try to stop them. i don't know what it came down to but they were just the better team. >> kevin? >> their defense is really good, you know. those guys are really good over there. i didn't want to