nathan black, char sick about new york, and what went wrong. new york was actually one of the 1st cities that entered into conversation with us about regulation over a decade ago. uh, new york has very unique politics which prevented any meaningful progress in the early days and basically prevented us from finding the sweet spot of compromise. and sensible and balanced regulation. and so i really view new york as an extreme outlier. and while this has been playing out over 10 years, you know, 80 percent of those other 200 top markets have found a sensible meeting, middle ground. and so again, i think it's, i think it's an outlier, so you would say this doesn't give other cities a blueprint for what to do with air b and b in terms of regulation. no, i don't think so. i think frankly, it's a couple of kind of what not to do because, you know, clearly there's a lot of ordinary new yorkers that were hurt by this very extreme draconian position of the city tuck. so, you know, i, i don't think it's even many officials would say that this is the way i

but a way of saying goes, nathan said joining doesn't include no black face documenting the competition. you know, and i think they actually shooting themselves in the, in the foot because people are just 2 opponents of you and argument a who on the basis of you results on the basis of you and freedom of speech on the basis of you and poverty. you and homelessness, you and unemployment. i just don't want you in an argument. and these people are not all pro russian. but to sing that the only argument of people in brussels and the commission or in the council are saying today is that these are pro russian assets. is actually making the opposition to you and argument i, i would say quite stronger and that they don't like being the senior point 8 or a name tag. they just want the debate. they want the discussion and i think this is just showing that by refusing to be paid by refusing the discussion with people who are i don't think that the you an argument is a good idea by refusing this b e was showing a to tell it terry and you, which is scaring actually all the people. so i think this is

black rock desert. thick ankle deep mud is making it impossible to walk or drive and more rain is likely this afternoon. >> so to talk about this all of, we're joined by sergeant nathanpershing county sheriff's office, thank you for your time. just lay it out for us right now. what is the situation right now? >> last few days we've gotten some rain. the -- has gotten wet and it makes it muddy and stick to people and sticks to tires, makes it very difficult to move vehicles around. >> can you talk to us about this death that we're hearing about that is being investigated? what do we know about the circumstances of this death? do we know who this person is, male, female, participate, how this happened? >> the death is under investigation now. the person was found on the playa. they tried life-saving procedures, were unsuccessful. it is under investigation so i'm going to leave it at that right now. >> and give us the sense of the scale of this here. how many people are stuck? as we understand some people are getting out by walking. but how difficult is it to actually do that? >> the events from the county road 34 is approximately a little over a mile. so people are wal