. >> could you comment on nathan hale? >> nathan hale was absolutely a very poor spy. i don't know if you're familiar with what's been found out. british general, scottish general by the name of brands, papers were found, and just become recently available. and there he identifies that robert rogers actually got hailed to tell him that he was a spot and what his mission was. and hale should have kept his mouth shut. he thought rogers was also an american spy, and because he actually outed himself, you wind up getting himself hung. >> and can you comment on washington getting his troops out of brooklyn into manhattan, and almost like a goucher out of the movies, where the built-up fives mac like the army was still there? >> yes, he also uses that after downing trend, where he had the fires built to deceive the british, that they were still in position. but at the battle of brooklyn, he uses men to get his troops across the east river back to manhattan. and by the fact that the british were convinced that come morning, that they would have a victory over an american ar