our panel back with us, tiffany cross, nathan ruben.nt-runners normally do, punching up. should he be moving towards policy now? >> donald hump, finally a good joe biden gaffe. >> he put one out there for you. >> yeah. but i'm going to take issue with the question. you called him the front-runner and i'm not sure he is. that's like what we say in the echo chamber, but when you think about it, how many people are being polled? i think he does poll well with older americans who are focused, who answered land lines from unidentified calls. i don't think too many young people are answering those calls. and so, look, for a lot of people, joe biden was a part of this amazing presidency, and so that he has name recognition. but for a lot of younger folks, that's the floor, not the ceiling. so they do want to hear more from him to your point on policy and he has a long legislative record to account for and that's going to be a challenge for him. look, if biden is the nominee, everybody will get behind him. >> nathan, do you like my question? >>

and here is the city council, and policy nathan ruben and kat. know a lot about the democratic party, saying among the so-called base, but that's kildee closer to saying i see what you're saying, pursue it there. >> since robert mueller, we've around 120 democrats give or take, there's a movement in the base, an appetite at the base and starting to see that trickle into the levels of congress. i think a formal impeachment inquiry will allow democrats get oversight and access to information that's been previously stonewalled. neil: do you share his concern of the other committees that trips up their-- >> i don't think it trips them up. it frees them up to focus on health care, gun control, foreign policy, the other committees that are trying to do serious work and allow the judiciary committee to focus on what's important to them which is holding the trump administration accountable. neil: politically that's just what republicans want then? >> you is a you dan kildee have the swing state impeachment. and one hand, yeah, we can get people on record,