washington slept in the field and the real winners of the war were generals horatio gates and nathanael greenehington was generally active much of that time and clinton was far more active. the most devastating thing attack or appraisal of clinton came about almost 75 years ago where the scholars today and many still accepted that biographer in conjunction with a clinical psychologist and they argued he saw power but he had deep subliminal psychological problems that prevented him from acting on the power that he had frankly i think the argument is malarkey not that i'm a fellow of the science that obviously they cannot put clinton on the couch and talk with him but in addition clinton left behind virtually no private correspondence that would have opened a window to his inner self so i do think clinton's reputation suffered from that. [laughter] but i think that study on clinton should be filed away in the circular file. certainly he made mistakes i recognize that in the book but i think he was a good general and exceedingly good strategist who didn't have much to work with and faced enormous

so i tried throughout the book when i look at the decisions that clinton and washington and nathanael greene and others. what they knew when they made those decisions. >> what would have been a reason for the british to allow a negotiated peace? what would have been in it for them? >> guest: many people in england just wanted to get out of the war. it had gone on for a long time, winning the war, there was a fear that they were going to lose all trade with america that france would gobble up postwar commerce with america, the british economy might be ruined the longer the war continued. there were some in england who were pushing for a negotiated settlement. immediately after saratoga, the prime minister learns of saratoga, proposes a negotiated settlement. the north peace plan of 1778, diplomats known as the carlisle commission that came to america in 1778 and authorized to negotiate a settlement. what clinton, lord north was willing to accept, everything the first continental congress asked for on the eve of war, for independence. he was willing to let continental congress remain, give the

slept in the field as he put it in the real winners of the war were generals horatio gates and nathanael greeneashington was generally in active during much of that time and clinton was far more and the most devastating thing attack came about almost 75 years ago but is still read by scholars today and many still accepted and it was a study made by clinton's principal biographeral in conjunction with a clinical psychologist. they argued clinton sought power, but he had deep subliminal psychological problems that prevented him from acting on the power that he h had. frankly i think the argument is malarkey not that i am of so of the cycle ministry but obviously they cannot put clinton on the couch and talk with him but in addition clinton was behind virtually no private correspondence that would have opened a window. so i think clinton's reputation suffered from that. >> joey is joining us now. [laughter] >> that's okay. [laughter] but i think that study on clinton should be filed in the circular file. he made mistakes. i recognize that in the book. but i think he was a good general and exceedin