and what nathaniel raymond was saying is this was particularly chilling. here is a team of war crimes investigators. usually, he says, they look at the dead. this time, they're looking at the living and not just the living, but the youngest, the most vulnerable of all. and that, of course, is the most chilling thing about this. that is, of course, why it's being done. it's not just about the children, and we can only imagine what these children are going through. little not just about the parents and the families. and we can only imagine what it is for them. some of them have had to go and retrieve their children, going through russia, all the way through russia to try and get them back from these camps. in the end, it is also about the fact that these children are about the future of ukraine and this is the point. it is very deliberate strategy of trying to deprive one country of its future. >> and that woman having adopted a child from mariapol, decimated by russian forces. we saw the bombing of the theater there that had people in it. we saw that they d

nathaniel raymond is the humanitarian research lab executive director and oversaw the report. nathaniel, i saw you called us an amber alert for ukraine's children. can you just explain what you mean? >> well, anderson, what i mean is that, well, we know thou that the 6000 children have been through the system. we think the number is actually far larger. and we are basically dealing with the largest network of children's camps seen in the 21st century. the structures from the black sea all the way to the eastern pacific coast, about 1000, 3000 miles from alaska. so these 43 facilities, we have four-month-olds all the way to 17-year-olds, many of which have not been able to contact their parents in months. >> i mean, how is this organized? who is in charge of this? how high up does this go in russia? >> this goes all the way to the kremlin. the leader of the program is a woman known as maria lvova- belova , who is under u.s. sanctioned. she is the child's rights commissioner for russia, and what we identify in this report is 12 individuals, some of which reporting directly to lvo

or nathaniel raymond is the author of that reports and executive director of yale school of public health humanitarian research lab. he joins us now from new haven, connecticut. you tell us more about the methodology or the way in which you gathered evidence for this report. the critical source of information for the poor was actually the statements of the russian government itself. the report, documents, officials, many of whom, actually all of whom are not on us or international sanctions listed this time. and it really shows the whole of government approach that regional governors, local governors, all the way down to municipal mayers and federal officials are engaged in a program that stretches over 3400 miles. and in many cases, these officials are in their own social media in their local media are discussing the activities of these camps in detail. the number to source of information was telegram. we did use satellite imagery is supporting our data resource to help g o located the 43 locations identified in the report. and the satellite imagery confirm those locations. yes, it helpe