with all due respect i don't think nation-states poison romantic rivals attempt to commit suicide or try to get rodents out of their houses so when individuals do those things is hard to draw an analogy between what's forbidden to a nation-state in the individual action. any work that is done in the statute by drawing that analogy is done by the statute and not by the convention. >> so if a terrorist, the tears takes these chemicals and puts him on every doorknob in boston that wouldn't be regulated by this? they are the exact same chemicals. >> we would understate that that's covered. we would also point out in the record that the same conduct would obviously be covered directly by federal statutes that target terrorism directly. no matter how you decide that case whether you accept our narrowing construction that can be covered by two federal statutes. if you don't accept it then the conduct will be covered. i think when you're trying to think about what the convention is after it's not really after ms. bond's contract. there is thin and deployment of chemical weapons and i sure ho

>> yeah, but if you think. >> but al qaeda never represented anyone as a nation state. >> al qaeda did control and govern with the acquiescence of the united states, the vast majority of afghanistan until 9/11, but more importantly, if you want to create groups that are an anathema to the united states, i would put the nazis to the top. in any case, i have not yielded any further. dr. jacobsen, only an investigation is going to disclose the real facts behind sergeant bergdahl's appearance and capture, but we've heard substantial evidence that sergeant bergdahl acted in an inappropriate and inexplicable manner. can you describe the kinds of stresses that somebody in sergeant bergdahl would have faced in afghanistan, and whether that would cause someone -- not everyone but some, to act in an inexplicable manner? i realize the vast majority of our soldiers, marines, et cetera are subjected to those pressures, and do not act inexplicably. >> can i have permission to speak? >> yes. >> you're asking dr. jack cob sen what situation bergdahl was there, i was with him at the same location. i co

but in regard to the prior swaps that have been made, those swaps have been made with nation states, correct? do you have an skparm where we've had swaps with a nonnation state before this one? >> the examples i have, and you turn this swap, the examples i have -- no, no, no. when you exchange prisoners with a nonnation state. or u better yet, for a deserter. if that's what the military finds him to be. >> the closest thing i can think of is after the battle of mogadishu. >> that was with muhammad and not a nation state. >> in regard to the threat that this now poses, i listened to mr. andrews talk about his son and how he may hope that he would be able to make that exchange to bring his own son back. i think everybody'shearted breaks in here thinking about what his family has gone through in the sacrifice that his son made for his country. do you feel pretty comfortable with these five taliban members released, that we won't have another hearing like this of another american family who lost a son or a daughter because of these five that are released? or do you feel that america is a

one place this convention talks about imposing obligations on individuals it is a promise by the nation state to pass penal legislation. it is very bazaar when the only way we reach conduct is a united states promise to pass legislation to say that the convention allows us to pass legislation that doesn't comport with the constitutional process. >> i don't understand how you distinguish the gas difference from the vinegar. why is it different? >> because i think the gas is more equivalent to something congress would try to deal with like they did with marijuana in ratch. i think with the gas, put aside congress and the treaty, it maybe even under the war powers, the federal congress could say that is a chemical weapon and we will prohibit them from having that. the only thing that makes them chemical weapons is their malicious ways. if the federal government wants to regulate and prohibit the unauthorization of those i don't see why they could not do that with or without the treaty. but these chemicals, rat poison, vinegar whatever it is, these are perfectly lawful and we don't think of them

military intervention and the national security state are much, much more popular than almost any place else in america. most places in america don't get better restaurants because of the largesse of the national security state for one thing. the beltway consensus is sustained by people like eric cantor. for years his constituents were happy to be represented by a patron of the national security state, right? as we just saw, his constituents were also happy to be represented by a staunch critic of the national security agency. it's not cause public opinion has shifted on that particular issue of i'm not saying that house race or any house race in america turns on issues dear to me or aclu. i'm saying voters, republicans and democrats are happy to be represented by civil libertarians, but only as an afterthought. for those people these are peripheral issues. that explains how the same kentuckians who sent rand paul to the senate also kept mitch mcconnell around. it's a shame voters haven't placed a higher priority on staying out of wars, nsa spying and civil liberties. like everyone up h

the cooperation between nation states is still the main way one cooperates, and the nation states is not about to go away, even within europe as we see. i think it also still is a source of a lot of democratic legitimacy because of the feeling of belonging to identity, but i do believe, and we had examples of that today and we'll have other examples that many issues do require a degree of cooperation between nation states and the degree of global citizenship or regional citizenship, in africa, for example. africa could do much better if there was integration in africa. so we're struggling with it, in my open experience, let me share one thing. how a person gets a particular job that is super national and the commission is a much more political organization than the imf or the world bank is for example. to some degree, there is -- there are bureaucracies that try to solve economic problems and manage global cooperation and so on. there has to be a certain amount of legitimacy in these bureaucracies, which they often have to be kind of personalized, because in politics and in global ci

state are much more popular than anyplace else in america. most places do not get better at restaurants because of the largess of the national security state. nsensus is sustained for people like eric cantor. his constituents were happy to ofrepresented by a patron the national security state. his constituents were also happy to be represented by a staunch critic of the nsa. it is not because public opinion has shifted on that issue. i'm not saying that that house race or any house race in america turns on the issues that are dear to me or the aclu. i am saying that voters are perfectly happy to be represented by civil libertarians. the only as kind of an afterthought. for most people, these are peripheral issue. that explains how the same kentuckians who sent rand paul to the senate also decided to keep mitch mcconnell around. i think it is a shame voters have not placed a priority on staying out of wars, and nsa spying, and civil liberties. i think they are important issues. is that it ising not as if voters have carefully weighed all sides of these things and decided that national status is correct. there is no reason congress has to be a

do you believe there was a national security interest of the united states in releasing those five individuals? do you believe there was a national security interest? >> i do. >> mr. walt? lessbelieve america is safe and the world is more dangerous with the release of those individuals. >> sergeant? >> i believe the world is less safe in the world is in more danger. >> mr. andrews, last word. >> i believe america is less safe. i believe these five guys are going to come after this. was a mistake to release them and it did not serve our national interest in any way. >> thank you for being here. the committee is adjourned. thank you. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2014] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] tor. this is just under an hour. [inaudible conversations] >> thank you for coming. i am david cook from christian science monitor. our guest is taxes governor perry. our first visit from them. he grew up in the west texas town up a creek near where his great, great grandfather had settled after the civil war. he became an eagle scout, went off to texas a

do you believe there was a national security interest of the united states in releasing those five individuals? do you believe there was a national security interest? >> i do. >> mr. walt? lessbelieve america is safe and the world is more dangerous with the release of those individuals. >> sergeant? >> i believe the world is less safe in the world is in more danger. >> mr. andrews, last word. >> i believe america is less safe. i believe these five guys are going to come after this. was a mistake to release them and it did not serve our national interest in any way. >> thank you for being here. the committee is adjourned. thank you. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2014] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> today on c-span, washington journal is next heard of like with your phone calls. the followed by live coverage of the house. the defense department spending bill. discuss thes, we military and diplomatic options for responding to violence in iraq with scott perry. later, new york times senior economics correspondent on this weeks federal reserve meetin

do you believe there was a national security interest of the united states in releasing those five individualso you believe there was a national security interest? >> i do. >> mr. walt? >> i believe america is less safe and the world is more dangerous with the release of those individuals. >> sergeant? >> i believe the world is less safe in the world is in more danger. >> mr. andrews, last word. >> i believe america is less safe. i believe these five guys are going to come after this. i believe it was a mistake to release them and it did not serve our national interest in any way. >> thank you for being here. the committee is adjourned. thank you. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2014] [captioning performed by national captioning institute]

has been at the heart of the project to increase the power of brussels and reduce the power of nation states for his entire working life. he's not the right person to take this organization forward. >> reporter: mr. cameron is looking all set for defeat on the issue of mr. juncker. finland's prime minister was asked whether he thought this could make a british exit from the eu more likely? >> i think david cameron is a very principled man and he has felt strongly that juncker is a little bit too fed rat for his liking but i think we can all make mends and solve the situation and i think in the uk, some people really seriously need to wake up and smell the coffee, the european union is a good thing for the united kingdom. >> what a great day. >> reporter: so today, the eu's influence in the wider europe taking a significant new turn with ukraine deal especially. but its own internal politics also likely to overshadow it within hours. >> interesting there to see the leader of finland saying that britain had to wake up and smell the coffee. that whole issue of mr. juncker still percolating here

endanger my fellow soldiers the >> were you ever given the impression that the united states would jeopardize our nationalecurity on your behalf to get you out -- >> no, congressman, norway want that to happen. >> let me ask you. on june 3 the a.p. reported that the united states government knew the whereabouts of mr. bowe bergdahl through three sources, u.a.f.'s, satellites, and human intelligence. you're a special operator. you got out in 2009, right? 2014 shall things have changed a little bit but i know you stay involved and in touch with your community. my point is the options. we had some option. we chose to trade five high-value targets for one rvice member, right, that we wanted to free and have come back home. it's laudable to have him come back. the right thing to do. do you have any lack of confidence in your ability of your unit, the united states army, with the capabilities we have if we knew where he was your ability if tanked with the mission to go retrieve that soldier? >> i don't know the details. >> i know you don't >> but if we knew we are was the e were confident and risks evaluated, a

>> the haqqani network is a terrorist nation, not a nation state. it's a terrorist network. they don't control government services -- >> but we were at war with them. >> we're with war with anyone that declares war against the united states, which is al qaeda and its affiliates and those who provided resources. >> therefore, if you're at war with this group as you would be with a state, you know, with germany in the past, don't you, of necessity, have to negotiate a prisoner exchange? >> no. here is where i disagree completely. we have other means to use. and remember, they came to congress about a year ago and we're thinking about doing these negotiations. by the way, they didn't get a very warm reception from either party in the national security committees. they said this is fraught with trouble. well -- so this all of a sudden comes a year later. they didn't notify congress. i think they violated the law in two different places here. why is because this is a -- this is morphing into different places. so an al qaeda affiliate in now africa looks a lot and functions a lot

we don't have nation states as enemy but terrorist organizations as enemies. this is a prison authority of war. >> so we negotiated with terrorists. >> i guarantee if, in fact, this man's life was last and it came out we had this opportunity and our commander in chief passed on it, the republicans would be going crazy right now. we saved this map's life. the commander in chief acted in his constitutional authority which he should have done to get that man after five years in captivity. i'm proud we have no p.o.w.'s in afghanistan. >> thank you, senator mccaskill and thank you for sharing part of your schedule with us. >> will she or won't she? whp from the leaks of the hillary clinton book and what it means for her chances in 2016? >> what without hike to ask the fighting constipation by eating healthier, drinking plenty of water, but still not getting relief? try dulcolax laxative tablets. dulcolax is comfort-coated for gentle, over-night relief. dulcolax. predictable over-night relief you can count on. could mean less waiting for things like security backups

with so much at risk, it was time to leave the united states and restore the constitution in a new nation free of fanatics and abolitionists. he secessionists' words spoken during the secession crisis in 1860 made clear their reasons for withdrawing their states in creating a new nation. i'm going to read some of this to you. two things i want you to keep in mind. first of all, i apologize for some of the things you're about to hear. it is shocking when you hear this for the first time. secondly, keep in mind, this is not todd groce saying this. ok? i am reading the words of the secessionists themselves. three days before the 1860 presidential election, the charleston mercury, one of the most influential newspapers in the south called for a secession convention if lincoln won the race. stating "the issue before the country is the extinction of slavery. no man of common sense who is not prepared to surrender the institution of slavery and the safety of the south can doubt the time for secession has come. now or never." two months later, the delegates of the mississippi secession convention

it is regulated at nation state conduct. now, with all due respect, i don't think that nation states poison romantic rivals, attempt to commit suicide or try to get rodents out of their houses. and so when individuals do those things, i think it's -- it's hard to draw an analogy between what's forbidden to a nation state and the individual action. but any work that is done in the statute by drawing that analogy is done by the statute and not by the convention. so i don't >> so if a terrorist took these chemicals and put it on every doorknob in boston, that wouldn't be regulated by this or -- the very exact same chemicals. >> right. and we would say that under our narrowing construction, that that's covered. >> because it's war-like. >> because it's a war-like use of the chemicals. >> all right. now we have -- >> we would also point out for the record that that same conduct would obviously be covered directly by federal statutes that target terrorism directly. so no matter how you decide that case, whether you accept our narr

at this point that you could have the major nations of europe and east asia become relatively immigrant-friendly. obviously there's tensions in the united states. relatively immigrant-friendly nations. the way the united states and some other western hemisphere countries are. if the alternative is loss of military security as well as economic clout, then you're going to see a shift. this will be really, the most radical changes in world society in centuries. the pattern until recently was that the major countries of europe and asia sent people. they didn't import them. now birthrights are so low the only way they can stabilize the population is by importing people. at the same time, it raises question, okay, if you're going to bring in people merely to stabilize the population, much less to expand, in order not to deepen divides or ethnic lines within your territory, you need to have assimilation and integration of immigrants. this is a place where maybe i'm showing my biases here, i think the united states, you know, can had a pretty good model, at least until recently, both economic integration and cultural integration of immigrants. economi

a great book and the archives nearby when he was there in a book called cosmopolitanism in the nation state. and that is the nationalism of the 19th century in germany and this is true actually charlie's became through europe at the nationalism was profoundly cosmopolitan in the following sense of the nationalist thought their nation as a nation among nations, each of which had escaped in a destiny worth pursuing. du bois sometimes put this in the metaphor of a choir. the course of humanity only works if everybody sings the line. somebody has to do thing the tenor line. and if we don't contribute our part, we can't make the great harmony that is the human harmony. so far from thinking about that were our nation as necessarily over again, it is distinct. a special. but it may even be from my point of view better. but it's not necessarily opposed to other nations. you need other nations to make history work. history requires all of them. now boddicker makes the point that this form of cosmopolitan naturalism essential. he is against it. he thinks that this is a problem because this part of th

and then a senator and certainly secretary of state to refer to and to engage with leaders and groups, civil societies all over the world to say your nations signed up for this. how far have you come? then when i left the state department i went to work with my husband and my daughter at the clinton foundation and there were a lot of the important programs that my husband had established and chelsea was instrumental in. i wanted to add three more. one of them was what we called the no ceilings full participation project. what we are doing in partnership with the gates foundation and many other partners, the u.n., is gathering all the data that we can find. i was just at the world bank two weeks ago with some important announcements that the bank was making with president jim kim and try to put it all together in one place where we can measure the progress we have made but also makes make clear that gap that still remain. it's been already a very meaningful experience for me because we still have lots of countries with laws that are women from many professions. we still have countries where they don't even record all the girls births becaus

in iraq threatening to turn into one single regional war, with the formation of a sunni supra national state, one of the possible outcomes, do we have to rethink what kind of iraq the world can tolerate at the end of this in is a lewisly fed rated state inside the old borders, okay? a good enough iraq. >> yeah, it certainly has to be considered at this point. how, kit not be a lewisly con fed rated iraq where one portion is being controlled by jihaddist group that one of the worst terrorists insurgency groups on the planet. after they are done taking care of business at home, they will turn to the outside to conduct attacks. so first and foremost, they have to be stamped out. it is nos acceptable for it to cab up iraq to include a government. >> do you agree with with that? >> i completely agree with with that. i think the symbol must be made by the iraqis themselves. and as i noted they are millions of iraqis showed up in national elections and i think there's a strong force. there may be other forces. we see this in the kurdish areas for greater autonomy, and that may come. we node to isol

there are numerous issues in the national states. we think the eu should focus on what is good in the free trades, the cross-border problems, like+ climate and environment. that they should not interfere in the day-to-day business. >> more denmark and lest europe -- and less europe, this is what put the danish people party in place and doubled the number of the right-wing populists sent to brussels. it was an impressive showing. something for them to sing about. he got his start in the party's youth organization. his colleague has been with the party since it was founded in 1995. she lives in the copenhagen suburb of -- her husband is also a dpp repr esentative. the couple has three children. they watch the images from election night over and over, still hardly able to believe it is true. oath reject any form of racism or xenophobia. but they would like to see passport checks at the borders again, even for eu citizens, to keep the influx of immigrants under control. >> you are danish if you feel danish in your heart and danish is you

for the kurdish north and one for the shiite dominated south and east but all within the same nation state. given the latest flair in violence, achieving that political resolution may be difficult. but if maliki can create a government that promises more autonomy to iraq's minorities, the iraqi army may be motivated to retake mosul. al-qaeda and iraq dominated. with american military assistance -- isis might then be driven out of iraq. >>> question, how realistic is this scenario and is nouri al- maliki apt to make it happening? >> i don't think we can put humpty-dumpty together again, to be honest. i don't think the government has the confidence or ability to unite the people or get folks behind them. the sunni triangle and kurgistan again. the united states of america is not going to put in what would be required scores of thousands of american troops to bring this country together militarily. should the country -- do you think they'll decide to come together diplomatically? i doubt it. there's too much blood been shed. i think the reality is it has been broken apart and nobody's going t

but for those who are disappointed with the whole nation-state experiment in the middle east, they pointality of the regimes in places like syria and iraq, and they say we need to re-establish a state based upon islamist principles, sort of disregarding the entire veneer that's been imposed by the west of the nation-state as we know it today. so, it does have a deep appeal to many people. and certainly for iraqis and syrians who have suffered under war, civil war, dictatorship, they look at the idea of the caliphate and they find it one they like. >> and erasing of those post-world war i lines on a map as they were so famously known that created the modern middle east as we know it. >>> stay with us, everyone, when we come back, the brutality of isis captured with their own cameras. the group using propaganda, pretty slick propaganda sometimes, too, to recruit even more extremists. some of them foreigners coming from other lands who one day might go back home. listen up, thunder dragons, it's time to get a hotel. hey, razor. check this out. we can save big with priceline express deals. h

politicians, but those that hold arms on both sides of the divide that need to make peace if iraq as a nation state is to survive. >> people, the israeli prime minister binyamin netanyahu has voiced support for a kurdish state. in a move that is clashing with the u.s. preserves to keep iraq united. >> translation: we should support international efforts to streng strengthen. recording the kurd, they are a fighting people that proved their political commitment and moderation. they deserve political independence. >>> north korea says it will but two citizen on trial. matthew miller and jeffrey foul. it is further training relations between u.s. and north korea. a professor said north korea is detaining u.s. citizens to use as a tool against america. >> i imagine the united states and south korea attempt to spy, but it's difficult in a parliamentarian state. i don't know too many stories in the literature about successful spies. i doubt the tourist he arrests are spies. the real objection is missionaries, those that come with the tour groups. that is a big issue with kenneth bea and under the new regi

sometimes it was based on your region but with the end of that pool with the creation of the new nation states the concept of identity of loyalty was now being based on nationalists or the emergence of arab states in syria and iraq a turkish nationalist state under a turk you saw a nationalist state under in iran but now it seems that there is that return to the east primordial loyalties and identities and that is the danger because if we go in this direction the whole region could enter into a vicious far more vicious conflict than we have seen so so far. factional zation would not lead people to say ok this is our place we got our place back we're a peace you're saying factional breaking areas up by faction would cause them to be there because of the half feels that they just be continuous with unless there is this is achieved by negotiations by different factions and very very at this kind of conclusion peacefully but i don't see that top of you let me make two points one specifically on vice president biden's comments. at that stage he was right but he was talking about a federation that's

. >> >> national security interest of the united states of america.he commander in chief, that is why stay focused on. as americans that is what we all should be focusing on. we will keep the american people informed. we will remain vigilant. we will continue to do everything in our power to continue to protect the security of the united states and safety of the american people. with that i want to take a couple of questions. >> do you have any confidence in the prime minister at this point? >> it is not our job to choose leaders. part of what are patriots fought for during many years was the right and opportunity for her case to determine their own destiny and choose their own leaders. i do not think is any secret that right now at least there is deep divisions between the leaders. as long as those deep divisions continue or worsen it is going to be very hard for a central government. we've consulted with the prime minister and he said that to him privately. we've said publicly that whether he is prime minister or any other leaders aspires to lead th

even if he did get it right in the sense was that i'm going to take this end defend this as a nation-statethen you provoke them across their red line. you have now crossed their red line and all of a sudden you have the nation on nation incident. now the united states government mrs. stepan still within -- deal with a much bigger mess. u.s. government has to figure out practically and how do we exercise there also the private sector does not need to and in that regard what we been asking too often is who's in charge? who has the baton or the defense of cyberspace? >> is the government doing enough? see what the answer answered that question. >> the government is doing what it can and there are many challenges. first and foremost i don't think we have a strong enough understanding of how works and what the internal dependencies are. second there are no probative behaviors where you can say hey you have been stealing my intellectual property. they may in turn savers are written that when you put it on the edge net that i can't find it. i thought you wanted to have it. that's a little disinge

so it is definitely a hot topic at the state level as well as the national level. so it was a pretty natural fit. >> host: one of the things you write in your book is the rise and fall of managed care is one of the most significant stories associated with the politics of health care during the last big ears. >> guest: well, it is interesting because it started out hmos were something that was kind of an idea of liberals and they were pushed by liberal advocates in the 1960s. but people who embrace the concept and the dock nurse who worked in those plans also embrace the concept. in 1974, president makes them established hmos as a federal concept and put some money into supporting us. but that kind of changed the politics he has been the idea was to help lower the cost of health care. gradually, employer plan started to offer more and more hmos, but with few options for their employees. so pretty soon by the end of the edc had a very large percentage of the lawyer -- employee population enrolled in hmos, but they were kind of unwillingly they are. and the.yours were

, in this context, and where the nation states pick up the criminal cases on their own. so it would happen to -- what happens with all our other cases that didn't go the route of the national body where they -- national authority that was going to pursue them, they went into the black hole. there are cases that have not been followed up on. there's staff members that were identified as having misused, misappropriated funds, embezzled funds that had not been identified, that have not been held accountable. the big question is well, why is that? why could that ever happen in the world's most arguably advanced international organization? i think you need to perhaps look at some other things here that have not been identified to round out the nature and scope and the dynamic, which is the u.n. -- you would think would not want a strong oversight presence. it does not. why does it not? well, cases of misconduct, cases of misappropriation, cases of malfeasance, cases of taking taxpayer funds are perceived in the u.n. as very bad press, very unwelcomed news and also types of me

i mean isn't isn't a vision by by six teryn or by ethnic or or even racial one is that we call nation states one in the way that you know you have put your finger on something that's very important. we're hearing a lot of talk about to speak all and the creation of new states right now but if you go back to that period the way before the one thousand one hundred the collapse of the under the under the persian empire your identity was based on your religious . affiliation based on your tribe and sometimes it was based on your region but with the end of that pool were the creation of the new nation states the concept of identity of loyalty was now being based on nationalists or the emergence of arab states in syria and iraq a turkish nationalist state under a turk you saw a nationalist state. in iran but now it seems that there is that return to the primordial loyalties and identities and that is the danger because if we go in this direction the whole region could enter into a vicious far more vicious conflict than we have seen so far so factional zation would not lead people to say ok this is

of wars has fallen to a level never seen before or since the peace of westphalia and the modern nation-state system. there's an incredible record that i don't think it has anything to do with international law. a few historians and political scientists say there's a number of different reasons but one primary one is clearly nuclear weapons. makes it harder and more expensive and dangerous for the great powers to come to confli conflict. the balance between the superpowers for much of the cold war actually had a suppressing conflict between the great powers and since the collapse of the soviet union the rights of the states as a hegemonic supplier of peace and stability of free trade around the world has also reduced great power conflict. the great source of war, the two world wars to kill the most people in human history both started in europe and were between european powers and spread to the rest of the world. despite russia's and actually russia's invasion of ukraine is a good symbol of what had preceded it. until russia's invasion of ukraine ukraine and there were no deaths from combat i

the prime minister nouri al-maliki called for a national state of emergency and international support. mosul was an important focus of the u.s. military's effort to stablilize iraq before it pulled out. a white house spokesman said the iraqi government must act to restore community. >> this is a situation that is serious, one that we are concerned about. it is clear that there are serious security challenges in iraq that have deteriorated in an important way. we'll continue the important relationship in terms of providing security and military assistance to the government of iraq. ultimately there's a responsibility on the part of the iraqi leaders to step up to the plate here. that includes prime minister nouri al-maliki, to do nor address unresolved issues and better meet the needs of the iraqi people. >> who are the i.s.i.l.? they started as an al qaeda group in iraq. it is now a major force in syria. fighting since the last spring. the group want an islamic state linking syria and iraq, controlling the border and oil fields for them is a priority. now, their strongholds in norther

a hot topic at the state and national level. the was a natural fit. >> host: one of the things that you write is the rise and fall of managed-care is what is the most significance story is -- stories over the last 50 years. what does that mean? >> guest: it is interesting because it started out hmos were something that was said the idea of liberals pushed by 1960's. people who belong to to them could not embrace the concept and the doctors also embraced the concept. then in 1974 president nixon established hmos as a federal concept to support those that change the politics to lower the cost of health care care but then they offered more and more hmos but few options. but by the end of the '80s of large percentage of the employee population in golden that hmos but they were there unwillingly so were the doctors. as i know from teaching required courses of people are there willingly -- juggling way they are not happy. so that happy this ego did its more people were forcedç intoÑiht@em.óÑi mid-1990s ther$rj a backlash against the

advantages it's a booby trap the real goal of those who pull the strings is that this integration of nation states the e.u. would deal directly with the regions. that are facing a dictatorships will to impose a model which we're friends would be to integrate a regionalized europe with the your atlantic bloc and our food holds the world governance. period large claims these documents dated back to nine hundred ninety seven by the association of european border regions as well as the two thousand and c. map of regionalized europe by the assembly of european regions is proof that the union has long been planning to regionalize the countries to gain more control. we will be part of something that does not even have a name for now and now there is a growing number of french politicians who are also speaking out against this regional shake up saying that supports in the countries identity at risk and opening the door to something which could not only reshape france but make it disappear marina koester of our reporting from france for artsy. coming up as promised abi martin looks at how water shortages a

politicians but those who hold the arms on both sides of the divide who need to make peace if iraq as a nation states to survive. al jazeera. erbil. >>> earlier we spoke to a professor of middle east politics at the london school of economics and politic science. i asked him about the significance of al-malaki's calls to boycott the vote. >> the . point to highlight is that the political prosprocess is deadlocked. this is essentially a crisis, a severe political crisis. the prime minister, nouri al-malaki has become very much toxic. ♪ not just for the prime minister. for most of "the sun"ni political and social establishments, for some of the kurds and also for some of the shiites. remember others would like the prime primary to step aside. even the americans. >> excuse me jumping in here. a broader coalition forming against him? >> sleig absolutely. you have the most important religious authority in iraq sending implicit messages that somehow there need to be an inclusive political government, a cross-sectarian government and to avoid the mistakes of the past, the mistakes that the prime miles per

competing nation states. the same framework that lies behind the united nations. there's so many problems that the world faces that seem to require a global response. shouldn't we be talking in terms of an internationalism that emphasizes globalism versus this prevential discussion. >> to have that kind of initiative that you're talking about requires, in some way -- and here i'll agree with bill, it requires a shift in identity. it requires that people think of themselves not as citizens of the united states or a global citizen or recognizing -- you would need shifts in public opinion that would require people to think of this as a situation where, in fact, cooperation would be required but you aren't seeing that. if anything you're seeing the reverse. look at the european union for example. it's in some ways the most ambitious project that existed to try to remake, you know, national identities into something larger. you know, sort of european identity of the notion that there's not just greeks or italians or spaniards but this european identity. if you take a l

. >> nothing is ever perfect, we're a nation state hereafter all, but we're in better shape than we were several years ago. >> assembly member richard gordon was happy to cast his vote in support of the budget which also includes the self-generating incentive program. that will attract investment, innovation, and green jobs here in california. >>> the uncertainty in iraq is driving down the narcotics for that and the rest of the news before the bell. we are live in world headquarters, good morning, jackie. >> good morning to you, sam, we are watching the futures here pointing to a lower open on "wake up with al" street as investors continues to focus their attention on iraq. we saw the dow snapping a three-week win streak. oil prices of course are in focus too, they rose 4% last week partly on the iraq needs. above $107 a barrel today. meantime we get economic data on manufacturing and housing and traders are also going to be watching the fed which kicks off a two-day meeting tomorrow. the dow rose 41 points on friday but fell nearly 1% for the week. its worse since april. nasdaq closing

you know, when you look at this region from a western nation-state perspective, it looks really complexnd it is. when you look at it with an ethnic, religious, tribal perspective, it starts to make a lot more sense. so the behavior of the iranians, they are helping hezbollah and assad's forces against sunni uprising in syria. to them, they're going to be doing the same thing in iraq, against the same guys, you know, the border is less relevant to the fact that these guys are their enemy. >> janine davidson, from the council on foreign relations, thanks so much. >> my pleasure. >>> in ukraine today, pro-russian separatists shot down a government military transport plane and all 49 people aboard were killed. it was the single deadliest incident since violence erupted in the eastern part of the country four months ago. in the aftermath of the incident, anti-russian demonstrators turned over cars and threw paint and eggs outside the russian embassy in kiev. ukraine's new president declared a day of mourning. >>> an estimated seven million people turned out to vote today in afghanistan's pre