national archives, but there's more to this. there are nine government agencies also caught up in the information request and the committee also is seeking record preservation requests from a lot of social media companies and telecommunication companies, and they also asked for records from some telecommunication companies. while they definitely want what the former president said and did, there's a lot more information they are seeking. >> let me turn to the for the legal perspective on this. while we are awaiting a formal response from donald trump's legal team, his representatives, one has to imagine that based on the posture they have taken so far as it relates to executive privilege, they will try and challenge this, right? >> well, i think they are going to have very long odds. when they do challenge it, that's the only thing that counts. what they say doesn't count, it's what they do in court. let me make one thing clear. so far all of this has happened regardless of what trump wants or doesn't want to happen. the committ

i obtained a letter that trump himself sent to the head of the national archives today. in this letter, trump lists almost two dozen documents within this first tranche of documents we are talking about that he claims should stay secret because of executive privilege. we don't know what's in those documents. they are only identified in the letter by certain numbers. but we do know that's a lot of pieces of paper that the president specifically has looked at and specifically said, no, i don't want the select committee getting these materials n. that letter, trump said that he also is going to try to make what's called a protective assertion of privilege. he's telling the national archives not to give anything else to the january 6 select committee. in a way that kinds of speeds up this legal conflict because now the national archives and the biden white house have to decide whether they are going to take seriously that further step that trump has taken to push this conflict forward. and it creates just a tense, fascinating, real high-stakes legal standoff that we have nev

the former president is suing the national archives and the january 6th committee. but it's a look into what these documents they're fighting over. >> it was the first time there was a violent attack on the u.s. capitol since the war of 1812. that's why you got to get to the answers and you got to get to the answers soon. stand by, we'll get back to you in a moment. >>> i want to get to the g20 summit under way in rome right now. president biden is meeting with global leaders on a number of key issues. president biden has scored at least one major win today. leaders did endorse his call for a 15% global minimum tax aimed at preventing large multinational companies from shifting profits around to try to avoid paying taxes. the president arrived at the g20 summit earlier this morning. he was greeted by the italian prime minister, mario draggy. security has been ramped up dramatically for this summit because of protests. 5,000 police have been deployed along with 400 units of the italian armed forces. also, pedestrian and vehicle traffic is restricted to residents and

first of all, this is a dispute over records held by the national archives. when people think of the archives, maybe they think of the museum in washington, d.c. but the archives is where the documents of the white house's internal discussions, internal deliberations are stored. and the second thing is that the committee here has requested thousands upon thousands of documents, and the trump-former administration comes back and says, we just want to block these 45. and the natural common sense question is why? what you aror when you are trying to hide something, it's usually for a reason. >> yeah, it is and again, this is a lot of requests and all, you know, i'm sorry, all communications related to every one of these individuals on this page is not one document each. so -- so, tim, what's your perspective of this? they come up with 45 specific things. i mean, part of me is like, wow, i can't believe they would have 45 damning documents at the national archives. why didn't they shred or burn them on the way out? which would have been sort of what i expect from

we obtained a letter from the white house counsel to the national archives instructing the release of documents requested by the select committee in a broad request for a wide range of documents relate to the president, president trump's, actions on january 6. according to white house officials, what has happened here is that the request that was made by the committee sought a range of documents relating to president trump's activities on january 6. everything from his phone logs, from photos, from videos produced during the day, everything involving mike pence, former vice president, his activities, his protection. this was the first request made by the select committee after it formed. what happened after that point is the national archives which contains altar kinds of from the trump administration began producing documents to trump legal representatives and the biden white house. the trump team had sought to block the release of an additional batch of documents that the national archives produced but the white house is now saying no, executive privilege is not relevant to this sit

some is the national archives, right? is going to cede to what the former president and his folks are asking. then there is the separate question of things being asked to be turned over voluntarily. there is some cooperation. look, there's a lot of focus on steve bannon, who is defying the subpoena. you know, there are people who believe that steve bannon is enjoying every minute of this. i think that will depend on whether there actually is an effort to charge him criminally. we'll see if he enjoys it after that. but he made clear he is not cooperating. there is some level of cooperation from the other aides, and that is important to note. whether there is going to be an issue on what they're coming up with, it'll depend what material the committee get. >> trump is exploiting a misconception about privilege, that anything you say to anyone as president has to remain secret. this isn't supposed to protect wrongdoing, right? >> in the same way that, you know, this is not supposed to be something that allows you to have cov

a court filing from the national archives is shedding new light on the many records from january 6th so far of what the former president is intent on hiding from his daily calendar to phone logs and personal memos from a number of staffers. longtime republican election lawyer ben ginsburg joining me now. good to see you. first off, your reaction now to the extent to which the former president wants to keep things hidden? >> well, i think he obviously wants to keep everything hidden. from his point of view, there's no good that can come from any light being shed on his activities around january 6th. hard to keep it secret. it's clear from the list that the national archives produced overnight that there are significant information that will shed light on his activities surrounding january 6th. >> so the whole purpose here is to zero in on the communications involving the president on the day of january 6th. and what are the parameters of this communication? you know, how far reaching could it potentially go? >> the documents that the national archives are talking about would create a

they live in the national archives. the man who is president, president biden, is standing by his decision not to assert executive privilege over these materials. in a new statement late last night, more forceful in tone, trump's actions are called a unique and existential threat to our democracy. adding that the constitutional protections of executive privilege should not be used to shield information that reflects a clear and apparent effort to subvert the constitution itself. a stronger statement there from the white house. that, of course, isn't stopping trump. his lawyers are trying to argue the house requests are too broad. quote, untethered from legitimate legislative purpose. and he should have the ability to keep his diskcussions as president private. calendars, call logs, tweets, and other communications during the run-up to the riots on january 6th. now, the shekt elect committee going to fight the lawsuit, saying it is harder to imagine a more compelling public interest than trying to get answers to overturn

both in london and in d.c., the national archives there. it's quite interesting but those don't go into archives everyday. you often order up and you have very little idea what's going to be inside because the catalog records are not great. thereafter book fair and there's no interest in you open one it's gold dust and it's fantastic. one of the things i discovered was crime and berlin, there's this paradise. i turned up a file, this is a story protected from london with a team of people to try to crack the crime rate. detective inspector tom says, he basically finds himself investigating the biggest crime ring in the history of crime. it's absolutely fantastic because the city is full of gangsters, you name it, they are all there. the last remnants, they rated everything. rare metals, works of art, so tom sent in their, he works alongside the americans to try to bust the crime rate. i was all in this file and went it came to washington, there was another file in the national archives as well as washington so the whole chapter of the book is

the national archives has not issued its own response. and the former president and his lawyers are threatening to go to court to stop the transfer reporting in washington. i'm basil john. >> still ahead on the kron 4 morning news. amazon has created a new payment system. the latest on this week. we'll tell you all about that coming back. when you take a stain drug to reduce cholesterol, it can also deplete your coq10 levels. qunol can help restore this important heart health nutrient. qunol the better coq10. wants to read your palm noel. that's the premise behind the company's latest high-tech payment system called amazon one. >> it's currently available in more than 60 locations across the country. rich demuro shows us how this technology works. >> rich demuro here, rich on tech here at the amazon bookstore. and i'm going to test out the new amazon palm reader. no, not some of the senate telling my fortune, but i'm going to able to pay with just my palm. let's check it out. so many things. i love this story beaause in here is all the st

the former president sued the national archives and the house select committee trying to keep them from turning over these documents. that of course came when president biden decided that the former president doesn't have the right to assert his executive privilege in keeping these documents from being turned over. just this week the white house actually asserted executive privilege over yet another set of documents. this is shaping up to be quite a nasty legal battle, back and forth between the house select committee, the national arrive and the former president. i want to read you a statement from the house select committee after the former president sued the national archives saying the former president's objective is to stop the select committee about getting to the facts. his lawsuit is an attempt to delay our probe. we'll fight the former president's attempt to obstruct our investigation. alex? >> you know, i think you hit the nail on the head when you said how long do we have. i'm trying to figure out what is left that happened on january 6th for the national archives were donald

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a he is asking to prevent the f national archives from -- he is asking that the national archives should be prevented from turning these documents ho over to the committee, and also asking the court to tell the national archives that they need to identify all documents from trump's time in the white house that could be considered conceivably relative to this request, and trump wants his own lawyers to have time to review every one of these documents at their leisure before they decide whether or not to turn them over to congress.ves t you understand why he's asking for it in that way but bottom line, he is asking for a process that could, of course, take years. and it remains to be seen a d her or not trump will have luck in the courts here, trying to block these documents from his time in the white house to being handed over to the b investigation.g mr. bannon tried to glom on to that trump lawsuit yesterday. kind of his last-ditch effort to evade his only goal. bannon's lawyers sent this letter to the january 6th committee yesterday saying that in light of this new lawsuit by trump, ba

so what happens now and will the national archives then turn over those documents to the january 6th on what a federal judge says. there have been three letters from the white house now waving executive privilege. first sort nf response to a request from the committee that the archives be passed along. two other letters include the one last night directly responding to president trump's assertion of executive privilege and the white house saying "we don't agree." the former president asked a federal court to block this because without intervention by the court, the archivist will begin handing them over november 12th. a hearing november 4th evalue ace request. and then wanting to write legislation, needs to have a legislative purpose and has an identified one and secondly, he still has some level of executive privilege even though he's the former president. those are the things that the court will have to work out. this whole idea congress needs a legitimate lawmaking purpose is an argument that the president used repeatedly when in office and didn't succeed well, but we'll see how t

at some point the national archives are going to send the materials over the select committee. that's the ball game. that's the big pressing question for the next week or two. does trump follow through and bring this litigation and how do things proceed from there. the other question is how does the january 6th elect committee tries to enforce its subpoenas where trump is telling witnesses not to cooperate because of this claim of executive privilege that's made. those are the two pressing immediate issues. >> and of course the house minority leader donald trump calls steve, kevin mccartney, congress does not have the authority to ask for records pertaining into the investigation of the january 6th attack. listen. >> this is a select committee that's not a bipartisan committee for the first time in history nancy pelosi picked who could be on this committee. what they're trying to do is missing the two main points. why were we so ill prepared on january 6th and how do we make sure we will never be in this position again. congress does not have the right to go after mine or your

. >> can you confirm the white house has confirmed the national archives to turnover -- trump activities on january 6? jen: administration takes events of january 6 incredibly seriously. as the president said on the six month anniversary. that posed an extension essential crisis -- an existential crisis. it was an attack on the foundations of our democracy. the president's day getting to ensuring something like that cannot happen again. we are cooperating with ongoing investigations, including the select committee to bring to light what happened. the president has determined an assertion of executive privilege is not warranted for the first set of documents from the trump white house provided to us by the national archives. as we have said previously, this is an ongoing process. this is just the first set of documents. we will evaluate questions or privilege on a case-by-case basis. the president has been clear that he believes it to be of the utmost importance for both congress and the american people to have a understanding of the events of that day to prevent that from happening again

federal institutions including the library of congress host the national archives and the smithsonian held exhibits to promote their collection concerning the history of women's suffrage. public art was constructed across the united states and over 100 books were published on women's suffrage and voting. in short it was a terrific year from the efforts of the commission level to the states and localities and other organizations that help commemorate the anniversary. now i would like to turn the conversation to our panelists today were all leaders in various centennial activities. let's start with page harrington who is the author of interpreting the legacy of women's suffrage at sites. page can you tell us a little bit about your book about how we approach the storage of women's suffrage at museums and other historical locations? what did we learn from the centennial and how will that affect future interpretations? >> hi colin thank you so much. thank you in the national archives as well for inviting me and the rest of the speakers here tonight. i look forward to what will be i am cer

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both in london and in d.c., the national archives there. quite interesting but those who don't go into archives every day, what happened, you often order up a book and you have little idea what's going to be inside it because the catalog records are not great. you can order book after book and there's nothing of any interest and then you open one and it's gold dust and it's fantastic. so one of the things i discovered, crime was rising in berlin. you have this paradise, one day i turned up a file it was about operations, a story of a detective from london was sent to berlin with a team of people to try and crack the crime rate. the detective inspector, tom hayward writes in berlin, he basically finds himself investigating the biggest crime ring in the history of crime. it's absolutely fantastic because city is full of gangsters, pimps, you name it. they are all fair. the last remnants fell apart. they rated everything, they got rare metals, works of art, every priceless thing. so tom hayward is sent in and works alongside the american to tr

those are things that the national archives holds, those communications and that timeline. and that is one of the most critical pieces of information that congress and the public want to see. >> absolutely, appreciate it as always. thank you. >> thank you. >>> in an effort to propel his sweeping domestic agenda, president biden is expected to meet with progressives and moderates in two separate meetings today. members of his own party. this as some senate democrats warn against cutting back specifically on climate proposals in the budget. >> cnn white house correspondent jeremy diamond and melanie zanona following all the angles for us. jeremy, let's begin with you. these two meetings today what more do we know about them and will they be passing each other in the hall in between meetings? >> reporter: yeah, well, listen, we know these are go to be some important meetings going forward as president biden seeks to bridge the divide between the two factions of the democratic party and reach an agreement on this build back better agenda. the president is going to be meeting ea

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the national archives is not only producing this set of records for the january 6th select committee, it's also producing a similar set of records for the senate judiciary committee which donald trump has not sued so you can imagine production, gathering records together, putting them together in a package to be sent is going to happen. >> that's a really important point. harry, you know, the people that i trust on this, including my wife kate shaw who is in the white house counsel's office and just wrote a piece for the atlantic on executive privilege do not seem bolled over by the evidence presented in the claim. to katie's point, how expeditiously can we expect this to be treated and which court will be doing the treating? >> that's right. the only play here is a delay, professor shaw is quite right that the executive privilege here is extraordinarily weak, but that's not about executive privilege. it's only about trying to drag it out, and you say what court. there's unfortunately not a really strong accord between the weakness of a claim, and how long it takes to go through the c

donald trump is suing the january 6 committee and the national archives. why?tion in that, it may well work. the former president's not putting any muscle behind blocking bannon or any of the people the committee wants to testify. why? well, instead, trump's lawyers are focusing on stopping what they may really be worried about, what they call, quote, sweeping requests for documents and records. why? because people can control what they say

they're over at the national archives so they don't have physical possession of it, the real keeper ofhe cup here is the national archive. >> yeah, so politically speaking, katty, did president biden have no choice but to deny president trump's executive privilege claim? he would not want to be seen as obstructing the january 6th investigation, right? >> no, and if you look at the polling on this, there was a really good pew poll that showed while support of the january 6th investigation and for holding people, finding them and then holding them accountable for that insurrection has fallen pretty dramatically by about 22% amongst republicans over the last six months, of course amongst democrats it hasn't shifted. so amongst the president's own supporters, there's still a very strong desire to see this investigation completed and then lead to prosecution of the people who were involved of it, so he doesn't want to be in that position, but i think there's a broader question here about what the executive privilege is for and the precedent here, danny will know this much better than i do.

but his white house counsel wrote in a letter to the national archives describing this as a unique and extraordinary circumstance that the investigation that is being undertaken by the january-6th commission is looking into. and as a result, she believes this first tranche of documents that the committee is looking for should be handed over. but it's not that simple. as you mention, the former-president donald trump has already written a letter to the national archive saying that he wants to challenge this legally in court. and the problem for the archives is that there isn't a lot of precedent for this particular issue. where you have a current administration in opposition to a former administration when it comes to the release of information. so this is likely something that is going to have to be hashed out in a court of law. of course, that is to the former president's advantage, john, because it just extends the timeline where the information can be handed over to the january-6th committee. they likely don't have that much time because they are up against a clock. and that clock i

let's start with the documents from the national archives. first of all, what kinds of documents are we talking about? what could committee potentially learn from them? >> these are documents that are in the hands right now on the national archives and the biden administration because they're currently in power has said to the national archives they're not going to assert executive privilege over these documents. that does not mean the situation is over, president trump, the former president will fight this in court. >> okay, but let's talk about what's in them? i mean, what possibly could they get for them? what kind of documents are you talking about? phone records, is it transcripts? text messages although i don't think the president texts that much, does he, to his subordinates? we know he tweets when he can. >> there are so many unanswered questions about president trump and bob woodward and i spent nine, ten months trying to answer as much as possible. what we found is that the story of january 6th was not actually just about that rally

i suspect that the select committee is imploring the national archives to do precisely that.not litigation gets in the way. >> that brings us now to these four people who are defying the subpoenas as of now. two of them engaged with the select committee. bannon and scavino thumbing their nose at it. bannon i think wrote a letter. you know, bannon is a particularly ridiculous case. he's not part of the executive, he was an unpaid advisor. he had received a pardon for a very serious charge of fraud that he was facing by the president. and the president is no longer the president. the guy that he was advising. there's like zero good faith executive privilege claim here. the question is do you let him try to run out the clock in court? >> the answer is no. i agree with you, chris. obviously it's absurd and ridiculous, the letter that mr. bannon's lawyer submitted to the select committee. it is consistent with the wholesale obstruction that we experienced and witnessed first happened during the trump administration. as you'll remember, i was a member and still am a member of the h

committee, which you've referred to as a double barrelled lawsuit against both the committee and the national archives. what happens next? >> it could potentially slow down the ability of the committee to get its hands on the documents. now we're talking about a separate request, the thousands of documents the committee asked archives for back in march and august. archives has them because that's where all presidential documents go when the president is no longer in office. the law says if somebody asks for these documents, archives checks with the current and former president to see what to do. the former president says executive privilege. the current says it doesn't apply. the legal question is how much authority does a former president have to assert executive privilege. we know he has some because president nixon established that back in 1977, but we know it's diminished when the current office holder says it doesn't apply. the lawsuit makes a separate claim that congress has no right to get this stuff in the first place. this is an argument that congress can only get information to legislate, no

he then formally asserted privilege with the national archives over the approximately 40 documents being sent to the committee and others in the future. white house officials told nbc news on friday they will reiterate the waiver of privilege, which trump will likely challenge in court. house minority leader kevin mccarthy is slamming the january 6th committee after it reportedly selected his phone records. he claims congress doesn't have the authority to ask for those documents. >> this is a select committee, not a bipartisan committee. for the first time in history, nancy pelosi picked who could be on this committee, and what they're try do, they're missing the two main points. why were we so ill-prepared on january 6th, and how will we make sure we never appear in this position again? it's purely politics. congress doesn't have the right to go after mine or your phone number records, and the supreme court has made this ruling. it's interesting about how far they want to control and where they want to go. >> to president biden's build back better plan now where new polling shows only a

district court today against a january 6th committee and the national archives as part of his campaign to keep records from his presidency secret. and he may be running out of time because the national archives telling him they'll turnover the records to congress in less than one month unless the court intervenes. trump's lawyers calling the request quote an illegal fishing expe expedition. this is no fishing expedition. this is bringing to light what p h happened on one of the darkest days in history. when blood thirsty rioters stormed the capitol beating police trying to overturn our free and fair election. the committee sending a letter to steve bannon for failing to compile and dismissing his claim of executive privilege and one of only two republicans on the committee says the former president could face a subpoena. >> if we subpoena all of a sudden the former president, we know that's going to become kind of a circus. that's not necessarily something we want to do up front but if he has pieces of information we need, we certainly will. >> we got a lot more to come on this, believ

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the overnight released from the national archives. for the first time detailed general nature of the records trump is suing to keep secret, including files from top administration officials, steven miller, kayleigh mcenany. among the papers are three handwritten notes about events of january 6th. kaitlin poleance has more on what he doesn't want seen by the house committee investigating january 6th. these documents i think are critical to getting to the bottom of what happened. >> truly, jim. we did not know what records had existed in the trump white house before last night in the court filing. very late at night, national archives puts out a list of more than 700 pages itemized, saying this is what donald trump wants to keep secret and gave details that we didn't know. there are handwritten memos or notes from chief of staff mark meadows, specifically about january 6th. there are call logs, switchboard call logs about calls from president trump to vice president mike pence leading to january 6th. these are specific things. visitor l

he is now taking lawmakers and the national archives to court. he's suing to keep his white house records secret by claiming executive privilege. even though he's no longer in office. the man who is in office, president biden, is standing by his decision not to assert privilege here. in a new statement overnight, markedly more blunt in tone, the white house now says trump abused the office of the presidency and attempted to subvert the peaceful transfer of power, adding here, the constitutional protections of executive privilege should not be used to shield information that reflects a clear and apparent effort to subvert the constitution itself. >> as trump heads to court, one of his former aides appears headed that direction as well. later today the committee is expected to hold steve bannon in criminal contempt for defying their subpoena, setting up what could be a legal battle ahead. cnn's ryan nobles starts us off this morning in washington. >> reporter: laura and christine, no doubt tuesday night is a big night for the select committee. this

psaki: i would point you to the national archives. there is a process. reporter: you talked about supply chain issues. how long does the white house expect those issues to go on? press sec. psaki: supply chain issues? as i noted earlier in response to peter's question, there are issues at play. reporter: [indiscernible] press sec. psaki: he asked me about global supply chain issues. sorry. one of the issues is of course how quickly we can work as a global community to address covid and get it under control around the world. the united states is far and away the largest provider of vaccines, donating millions, billions to the global community to get the pandemic under control. we have also taken significant steps, more than any other country, on ensuring we are providing the supplies needed to countries. we have continued to ask other countries around the world to step up, because the global supply chain issues are in some part related to manufacturing and other countries. there are issues, some progress on addressing, but we need to get the chips funding

largely it's because the national archives holds lots of records. they're the carrier of the records and the biden administration has said they're not asserting privilege over those documents. the first collection of documents going from the house to the archives. now, what the house is looking for anything that shows plans to overturn the 2020 election. that's videos, photos, call log schedules of people in the white house, potential intelligence there was before the trudmp rally. and even communications of white house officials. all of those sorts of communications, those are the sorts of things that the trump people who do have a say, because trump is the former president, he gets a little bit of a say. he's saying he wants to assert privilege over 4640 of those documents. and that means there could be a court fight. if they can't come to an agreement on what the national archives should be giving to the house. there are lots of parties there talking and trump could really try to slow things down with the court case in the next 30 or 60 days. >>

the national archives will turn over documents early next month if the courts do not intervene. >> sohat happens now? i'm joined by cnn senior legal analyst ellie honing, former state and federal prosecutor. steve bannon defying a subpoena. the house committee will vote whether to hold him in contempt. walk us through. >> big step today, but it is only the first step. this is a three-step process. later today, the january 6th select committee will vote whether to hold bannon in contempt. we expect that to be a unanimous yes. then the case will go over to the full house of representatives. of course, it's under democratic control. then if the full house needs to vote for contempt by a majority, that's all they need, then the real moment of truth. it goes over to the justice department. they are the ones who will decide whether to prosecute. the big decision here will be made by the attorney general, merrick garland. this will be a legacy-defining decision for merrick garland. we've seen an interesting thing happening in recent days, however. leading democratic polcluding a president hi

the national archives says it plans to comply unless the court steps in. does trump owes lawsuit have legitimate legal standing? >> it has very little legal merit. probably not a coincidence that bannon is looking to delay because i think that's really what's at play with trump's motion. trump makes three main arguments. first he says the subpoena is just an an tempt to intimidate and harass. that's really got nothing a to it legally. that's sort of name-calling, nothing there. the next argument that trump makes is that there's no legitimate legislative purpose, meaning the committee can only subpoena documents if they are going to pass new laws or recommend new laws. first of all, that's not legally correct. the committee does have investigative power. they may well recommend new laws, the 9/11 commission did that and finally trump argues executive privilege. now, a former president can have some ability to assert the executive privilege and the law and precedent is fairly clear, if there's a conflict it's currently up to the current president. joe biden

the national archives is not only producing this set of record for the january 6th select committee, it was also proving us descent to the judiciary committee, which donald trump does talk to. so you could imagine the production and putting them together, and packaging, and making a basin. >> that is a really important point. the people that i trust on this, including my wife, and the house counsel's office and disordered peach from the atlantic privilege do not seem bowled over by the legal argumentation presented in the complaint. but it does seem like the point here is to lay. , and i guess to katie's point how do we expect this to be, treated and which court will be doing the treating? >> that is right, the only play here is a delay, professor shaw was quite right for the executive privilege, here he is extraordinarily wreak. but it's not about executive privilege. it's about trying to drag it out. and you can say of course, there's unfortunately not a really strong core between the weakness of acclaim, and how long it takes to go through the course. there is a problem that needs

he is now taking lawmakers and the national archives to court.

he is now suing the committee and the national archives to keep his white house records private. 6th committee chairman bennie thompson and the vice chair liz cheney are responding tonight and i quote, saying "his lawsuit is nothing more than an attempt to delay and obstruct our probe. precedent and law are on our side." is trump's lawsuit just a delay tactic or do you think it can work? >> i don't think it can work. i think it is a delay tactic. keep in mind that the house is currently controlled by the democrats, who formed this select committee to investigate the dogs of january 6th. they're only going to be in office for another year and a couple of months if the house changes hands. and as we've seen in other litigation including with respect to the former white house counsel don mcgahn and others, if you can get into litigation and you can get this stuff into the courts it takes time. and then even if you get ruled against as trump almost certainly will be, you can appeal and you can appeal again. and you can ask for rehearings. so it can take some time. i do think that in