it wasn't lost the national archives is busy. we decided to declassify. we can have the authority thinks of national declassification center which made it a project, we got the classified, much of the come classified side of one of the most important, what is most important document in modern american history, the haldeman diary declassify. you can now go and see it. researchers had never asked for it. so if you leave it to research is to ask for it, many of the most vital documents will never get into the system. so that's why you need people with clearance to go into vaults to look for materials that are highly important to our history. and nobody does this better than presidential library directors and archivists. >> i would say bush 43, we don't have collections that are secret, that are so secret nobody knows that they are there. we don't have that same issue. >> you do have a proactive action that was very good, and thank you for that. it has to be added to the corpus of knowledge so historians know what to ask for. matt. >> i am a big advocate, i've

this is what the national archives does. until recently, the presidential libraries were vital to declassify presidential records. but before this process can even start, the researcher needs to know the classified record exists, which means it must be processed, and the fact it's missing from an open file in the research room must be made clear. this task is called processing and even more labor intensive and wholly the responsibility of the national archives. when it comes to presidential records, this is primarily the responsibility of presidential libraries. but the declassification of which has just seen the fabulous leah michelle in "funny girl," perhaps think of it this way -- researchers are people who need people. [laughter] this mismatch between resources and mission in the u.s. declassification system is about to get much worse. both parties in congress are largely responsible, but nara is not wholly blameless. the leadership of the national archives has chosen to reimagine the process, declassification, and relea

but i think, in the years to come, you'll find that more people that will support the national archives. >> i think warren is right, but i appreciate the comment and i wasn't aware of all that. i will say, on the hiring of people interested in doing archival work, presidential library work, the comments made over there were correct. people want to get in this field. at the cia, we had an easy time hiring lots of people with library science degrees to do our records management. they love presidential library work at it's a big demand for it. if the presidential libraries had to the fund. unlike cybersecurity, where you can't hire people because there's a huge shortage of cybersecurity people right now. any more

bomb pra as just explained, gives the government control of these papers operating through the national archives with a significant role of the statute for the national archivist. it's a very curious role for former presidents as well as presidents. we should come back to that if we talk about this. it could be amended to clarify and address some peculiarities of the law that i don't think we're detected until recently. the statute attempts to recognize the confidentiality interest by protecting from released, for example, materials that -- for a period of 12 years. we and we once those periods and, by the way, once the period -- two categories of documents are subject to different periods of release, 1:12 years, 15 years. once those periods and, they become subject to -- we freedom of information act. we can talk about the technical requirements of the statute. i want to come to the former later in the appropriate moment to talk about some of the odd questions raised under the statute. you are quite right. there is a tension. there are a couple ways this is expressed. one which creates problems

first, first of all, in the pra, the role of the archivist and the national archives is a consultant o brawl it should be, it should actually be a required role. the white house staff to work with the archive. decide to come up with bling for organizing the materials. that should be a requirement. that's not the case right now. number two, as bob mentioned there should be a requirement that within your three, regards to whether the president wants to run for office reelection, there should be an exit plan for the materials and i should be a requirement. and congress should be told about that. so congress which monitors, there are to make agents, one house, one senate committee that has oversight responsibilities, they should be given a report in your three about the planning for the exit, or the removal of the materials, and the materials should start moving out before him. three, when you tighten the definitions of what's records. we live it up, there's a real gray area, bob was mentioning one thing, that's never been tested and another thing that's ever been tested is what is politi

they have ever gone to constitution avenue on the mall, you see the original building of the national archivess where they house the declaration of independence, the constitution, the bill of rights and may be some of your viewers have gone to local libraries and archives or presidential libraries. we think of these places as places that welcome visitors, and they are happy to open their doors to the public. when you go to an archive, you are only seeing a fraction of what lies in store. because archives are given information that are not yet public. this 26 pages are held in centers scattered across the country, they are not open to the public at all. what is in those papers? those of the papers that different departments and agencies decided might be important enough that they had to preserve them permanently, and historically the national archives estimated they only preserve 1% to 3% of the original document or record. the rest is destroyed, and it is destroyed after some set number of years. it is typically whenever the archivist can get together with the records managers and decide what

why is it the national archives has traded joe biden with kid gloves in contrast to the way that theyd by the white house, the biden white house about this problem they didn't notify the justice department like trump apparently was only after the inspector general the archives all this problem that the justice department was contacted. why this contrasted the way that the treating similar situations they have it answer that question and that is something the committee needs to find out. >> what were seeing the spokesperson for rubenstein says he played no role in this matter buddies giving a lot of money to the national archives, the archives is being accused of inconsistent treatment between president biden and former president trump in the recent political biased at the national archives. recently retired chief archive referred the president, the former president to the d.o.j. for a criminal investigation but silent what was going on with president biden. >> i think the first thing that needs to happen any and all communication, there is really nothing going on than they should have

there's reportedly came from the house that david comer said with a national archives they communicated that they were told the archives did not release the press release at whatever point it was about the classified documents. did anyone at the white house tell them not to? >> to? >> i haven't heard anything about that. it's better to ask does the archives is that what was said and understand for what they meant. >> i gave an answer to that question. [inaudible] the justice department has engage in the ongoing investigation and an ongoing investigation i should add that the president has been fully cooperating in with offering unprecedented access to his home every single room of his home in rohoboth and get them information of any priest moving quickly to get them information that they need. i'm going to be careful not to characterize what the justice department is doing in their investigation or at its more appropriate for a question like that to be asked of the justice department so i would point you to them. [inaudible] we received a few letters from the house oversight committee i

if you go onto the national archives website.here are pag pagpages of press releases information about fbi raid into mar-a-lago of donald trump. there is nothing on the website about joe biden. there was not any press release or anything on the website about joe biden. so we ask the general counsel, why were there no pressure on joe biden once it was determined he had classified documents in his possession. the counsel said he did do press releases but he was ordered until they could not be published. so -- we did ask who gave the orders and he said, i can't tell you that. there is only two people that could have given him the order. that was merrick garland or the white house with joe biden. it shows right there that this department of justice and this white house is interfering with this and treating donald trump very differently than they are treating joe biden. >> i want to hone in on that. the last 48 hours, the last two days now, we have had jim jordan's committee denied documents by the justice. then we have this whole iss

pahlavi in one of the repositories of the national archives and library of the central region of the country, there are documents related to land grabbing during the pahlavi era, the section of announcements about the oppression of the serfs and complaints related to the seizure and damage of lands was divided. most of these documents belong to the lands of mazandaran, gorgan and the turkmen sahara is one of the lands that are more important both geographically and climatically . in this area, the central area of ​​the national library and records organization is kept . reza shah says that because of seeking power , i used to use empty land with different titles. reza shah, when i see that the master of establishing agriculture to agriculture they are firm on the ground and the power of the lords of the land owners, and he is coming to take this power. he also came from the close friends of mohammad reza shah . if you wanted reza khan to be happy and give him a rank or position , you would have mentioned the property with its specifications and price before starting the letter. and y

. >> government e-mail surfacing showing national archives did coordinate with the president's lawyers on his mishandling of u.s. secrets. >> and i am elizabeth macdonald, "the evening edit" starts right now. elizabeth: thank you so much for joining us. stocks ended higher. the u.s. consumer is stepping it. despite high inflation, january retail sales came in strong. rose 3%. better than expected, by 1.8%. and home buildy confidence rising, we're looking at futures market. pricing in a possible lower quarter point rate hike in march. maybe the fed will slow it down with rate hikes in the battle against inflation. updated with edward lawrence who is live at white house, president speaking today on the economy. he has the story, good to see you. reporter: good to see you. president at a union shop in maryland, pointing out that the unemployment rate is lowest it has been in decades and wages are starting to rise. president wants americans to focus on, that not the rise in the prices. the unemployment rate is at lowest since may of 1969 and wages are rising but less than the pace of infla

. >> did anyone at the only point tell the national archives they could not release about a classified documents spent the reporting fromed the house oversight committee that says in his conversation with the national conversations on —- the national archive they were told they cannot release about the discovery of the classifiedt documents. >> i don't know about that it's probably better to ask the archives and to ask what he meant. >> it is just or know what is the fbi quick. >> i gave an answer to the question. >> [inaudible] the justice department is engaged in an ongoing investigation that i should add the president has been fully cooperated giving access to his home in wilmington every single home in his room and also the information that we need to a move quickly to get them the information i would be careful note to characterize with the justice department is doing in their investigation was probably more appropriate for a question like that to be asked with the justice department. >> . >> the house oversight committee has asked to see the documents we give this to the house ov

the national archives and the library of congress. and they've put them online. now, the problem with the database and there's over 81,000 of these documents at their web site. and if you go to my website, jonathan white dot org, i link to it so you can find it that it's easier for me to tell you that link than to tell you there is because i don't even know there's. if you go to their web site, you can you can by name of corresponding it or you can browse by record group. and so what i did was i thought about what might be writing to lincoln about and how might those letters have been routed through, the federal bureaucracy. and then i'll check record groups because each record group correlates with a branch or or agency of the federal government. and so i was none of them transcribed. i just had go in and read through them and i would just read letters and i found a letter and i wasn't sure if it was a white writer or a black writer, i would go to the census and try to find the person to figure out. and that was how i uncovered of the letters. i'm most proud, ac

. >> next it's a discussion on the relationship between the national archives and presidential libraries as well as the declassification process. mark lawrence director of the lbj presidential library and warren finch armor director of the george each w bush presidential library dissipate. the lyndon b. johnson presidential library is the host. >> ben powell kept everybody talking about the media, i figured it was time for us to start this our final panel. and because this is the final panel i'll probably start a little bit where i did yesterday with our board meeting and that is to again express our incredible thanks and gratitude to the lbj library and mark lawrence for hosting us. what an incredible facility it is and thank you guys. to so grateful to be here to have been to draw us to this incredible conference. well, your leadership at the center, adam klein. thank you again. incredibly important both for dni to come down and give a really importantspeech . i thought almost a to do list , a roadmap for some of the ways to address the front end of classification and the backing of th

but as we heard earlier, today it wasn't until the 1930s that we actually got a national archives. even when we did, the fbi basically said no, our records are our records and they're not going to the national archives. for the most, part that's exactly what happened. a few of the pre hoover records could go over eventually as micro film. and you've been able to access them over at narrow for a good long time. but overall, fbi and investigative files were considered close to the public. that said, a lot of what the fbi does comes out in the public. because when you're investigating a crime or when you're investigating a national security threat that touches on national security laws, another crime, it ends up in court. the court produces a public record. it's and pieces of the fbi's records ended up in public. but of course, it wasn't until the mid 1960s, early 1970s when a combination of government leaks, things like the break-in of the fbi's resident agency in pennsylvania that led to the exposure, among other things, of a program called cointelpro that everyone's heard the word.

but as we heard earlier today does not show the 19 national archives. even when we did the fbi said basically no, our records are our records and they're not going through national archives. for the most part that's exactly what happened. i free of the pre-hoover area it records did go over eventually as microphone and we have been able to access for a good long time. but, overall fbi investigative files to be considered closed to the public. now, that said a lot of what the fbi does comes out of the public. when you are investigating a crime or when you are investigating a national security threat that touches on our national security laws, again in other crime, it ends up in court and the court produces a public record. so bits and pieces of the fbi records ended up in public. but of course it was not until the late 1960s early 1970s when a combination of government leaks, things like the break-in of the fbi agency in pennsylvania ledge of the exposure of among other things a program called counterintelligence program everyone is heard the word very f

and library has been provided for researchers to study history in the women 's national library and archives organization. and i search the search results for the keyword "land grabbing during the pahlavi era" in one of the archives of the national library and records organization of the central region of the country, on documents related to land grabbing during the pahlavi era, in three parts: notices, oppression of serfs, and complaints related to land seizure and damages. division most of these documents belong to the lands of mazandaran, gorgan, and turkmen sahara , which are more important both geographically and climatically, and are kept in this region. the vacant land was used with different titles when they see that the superior economy of agriculture is based on the land and the power of the masters of the land owners and he comes to take this power and in the memoirs of hossein fardoost, one of the close friends of mohammad reza shah , if you wanted . may reza khan be happy, rank or position before you started, you mentioned the names of some properties and their specifications an

s whthat's why we brought in the national archives today for our very first transcribed interview. and can you tell us whatou t w happened? this >> did they shed any light on any of this? well, right beforeth the nationd archives came in, they handed us a letter from the department of justicepartment informing thm and us that the general counsel for the national archives wasn't allowed to say anything ahead anllowed to say anything but we went ahead and we had about a three plus hourinte transcribed interview with the general counsel. thl s therensel. is a double standard here biden with donald trump was treatedgiy versus joe biden. and i'llouexample, give you an , sean, if you go on the national archives website, there's page and pages of press releases and information about the fbirmo raid into mar-a-lago and donalda trump's possession of classified documents. but there's nothin there isg's nothin on the website about joe biden. there wasn't any press releasebi or anything on the ono the website about joe biden. thl so we asked the general counsel, why were there no press releases

i to go in and get those documents and returned them to the national archive. again, all of these documents belong to the american public and do belong in the national archives as a matter of public record. communicate. thank you very much. indeed. man magenta has extended a state of emergency for 6 more months. 2 years after overthrowing the government, the country's facing growing violence and instability since the military coup in 2021. tony chang has more from the time he and ma border deserted streets around the sleigh, pagoda people in yan gone defiantly showing their support for the silent strike. as offices and shops remain closed. despite warnings from the military scenes like this were repeated across myanmar on wednesday. but in bangkok where they were free to speak out, they did. hundreds of mamma citizens demonstrated outside their embassy denouncing the coo and the general behind it. many held up pictures of young sons to cheat. the last elected leader. now facing a lifetime j, we not exam me all i, we want democracy is why we want to for the all

who can tell the national archives you're not supposed to talk about it? here's only two people. the justice department or the white house. the answer in transparency and find out who told the archives are not allowed to say that. the truth is, the documents could be innocuous, sometimes there is over classification and maybe the document say there was a briefing paper before we went to aipac one year. here's some information from 2007 about israel and the posture then. it's been overtaken by events, not important anymore, but they made a mountain out of a mole hill. the president said i can look at the documents because lawyers told me not to. i think that's based on my conversations with andy mccarthy, that's not true. you can look at them as commander-in-chief, your response will for a national security and put it into this right away. they decided not to. they always try to save the hunter biden laptop stories just about hunter biden. then the documents are just about joe biden. but is it true? they wonder why people are so conspiratorial. why do people

i also found great resources in the admiralty papers at national archives in london. i found a rich cache of letters that were in a sea chest in captain samuel burgess's pirate ship when it was captured by a british. in 1699. the letters were in the pirates mailbag and contained a few from captain kidd's crewmen aboard the adventure galley to their wives and the wives to kids crewmen. the letters are dated from 1695 to 1699 and they show that the course was conducted thousands of miles across the globe between indian ocean pirates and north american colonists. and there was successful and direct communication oceans between new york and madagascar and back again. no letters. from sarah or captain kidd. among these letters. and none have survived. but there is every likelihood that they communicated. during his three year voyage through the mariner's mail service. on ascension island, a remote outpost in the atlantic, new york merchant captains trading with the pirates in madagascar stopped for fresh supplies of turtle meat and dropped off and collected the mail left u

that's when the problem occurs, and we can have representatives from the national archives and the office of the director of national intelligence be involved in the actual removal of documents. >> can you explain what's at issue between the senate intelligence committee and the national archives and dni about getting more information about these documents? marco rubio and senator warner, both senators said they don't need to see the actual substance of what was in those documents, although a lot of them have very high security clearance, but they need to know the nature of them, conduct oversight, their own assessment. why is this an issue? why is it even a standoff? >> it's not much of a stand off. it will get resolved quickly. there are two things at play here, one, the department of justice wants to make sure that the executive branch doesn't land over to congress documents that are in the middle of an investigation which so far in the case of biden and pence have not in any way shown to be criminal in the case of president trump. there is a criminal ongoing nature to the investigatio

, but they wanted to provide that content back to the national archives for them to review itf there was anything else. subsequently the former vice president had been -- we spoke about this publicly and he said it was his responsibility, that it was not appropriate for him to have anything classified or with classified markings in his home, and he was going to fully cooperate. now, here we are, with a search today playing out, in indiana. these typically take several hours for investigators to go through and look through all of the different places within a residence and to then provide an inventory as typically the practice to the lawyers for mike pence in this case. and then we will ultimately find out at some later date if there was anything more from this. but this is a big development, mike pence has been in the news for a separate matter, dealing with a subpoena in the january 6th thing. that's a different story. just a coincidence that mike pence is in the news for two interesting areas today, but they are unrelated. lindsey? >> so, chuck, again, we have what looks lik

like initially was done with the national archives. we're going to continue to be cooperative with the justice department throughout this. >> scott? >> handwritten notes twice now, the fbi has taken, you know, what you would describe as hand-written notes. have they given any explanation to the president's lawyers from the white house why those notes are different? i assume they're not taking every single hand-written note they come across in the house. what is nit particular about that? >> i think you see today in the statement that was released by the president's personal lawyers and the statements that was released by the president's personal attorney after the search of the wilmington house, you know, i think that they believe that some of the materials that were seen and were taken, they appear to relate to his time as vice president. so, you know, i'm not going to characterize too much of the underlying contents, but i think we've spoken to why certain materials may have been taken. >> was there any reason to believe that anybody

more than 800,000 users from 100 countries last year, the publishing house, together with the national archivef belarus, were awarded a special presidential award for significant work in shaping public consciousness popularization of the history of the partisan and underground movement in belarus the first concentration camp on the territory of belarus unprecedented cases of escape in the new series of the genocide project without the right to life the history of one of the largest camps, prisoners of war in europe that lacquer 352 reconstructed episodes of resistance prisoners who were not preserved in the video chronicle and among the eyewitnesses of the terrible events of the prisoners were not fed for several days. after that they brought barley, scattered it on the ground and forced to eat the atrocities of the nazi invaders on the territory of occupied belarus in facts and figures . in the first 12 days, the nazis shot more than ten thousand people in thrushes, about two thousand died due to the heat of famine, which began epidemics. every week , an irrefutable fact from the materials of

like initially was done with the national archives, so we're going to continue to be cooperative with the justice department throughout this. >> reporter: handwritten notes twice now the fbi has taken what is described as handwritten notice. have they given any explanation why those notes are of interest? i assume that day not taking every handwritten note they come across. what is it about in particular those handwritten notes they have taken? >> i think you see today in the statement released by the president's personal lawyers and the statement released by the president's personal attorney after the search of the wilmington house, i think they believe, you know, some of the materials that were seen and taken, they appear to relate to his time as vice president. they want to make sure the justice department has access to the information they need to sift through materials as part of this ongoing investigation. i'm not going to characterize too much of the underlying contents. i think we have spoken to why certain materials may have been taken. >> you said the search was planned. how

did anyone at the white house at any point tell the national archives in any form that they could not release a press release about the discovery of classified documents? >> what's that in reference to? >> reporting that came from the house oversight committee chairman james comer says in his conversations with the national archives they communicated that they were told, the archives was told they could not have a press release with the classified documents. i don't know anything about that. if that's what it said, probably better to ask the archives if that's what was said and understand more what he meant. josh. >> first question, you did not say -- you can't -- it was yes or no. >> i gave an answer to that question. josh. >> can you say confidently whether you believe there are more classified documents. if none found today, do you think this closes the door on classified documents? >> look, the justice department is engaged in an ongoing investigation and ongoing investigation i should add the president has been fully cooperative in, offerings unprecedented access to his home in w

lassiter and others are suing the national archives. its policy typically allos such express si clothing. as the home of to the original constitution and bill of rights enshrine the rights free speech and religion we sincerely apologize for this occurrence. we are are actively investigating to determine what happened. these apologies they issue they only issue after we come out to the public and say what happened these are not proactive apologies. >> national archives not alone. a similar incident happened the same day at the smithsonian air and space museum. >> i even said this is a violation of our first amendment right. this is a government funded building. how are we paying for this with our taxes and i'm not a loued to wear this hat. >> smithsonian issued a similar apology and also facing a lawsuit. >> bret: up next a whistleblower claims about a transgender center at the st. louis hospital has the attorney general asking requests. we will bring that you story. and the cdc is out with a new report on teens' mental health that paren

tue: national archives because they are all doing!l to see if they have anything in their garage-— well to see if they have anything in their garage._ yes. i their garage. is that true? yes. the 've their garage. is that true? yes. they've asked _ their garage. is that true? yes. they've asked him _ their garage. is that true? yes. they've asked him to _ their garage. is that true? yes. they've asked him to go i their garage. is that true? yes. they've asked him to go in i their garage. is that true? yes. i they've asked him to go in check. so that would be bill clinton, president 0bama, george w. bush, they are all being asked to check they are all being asked to check the sock drawer, jimmy carter, for potential classified documents? yes. these people. _ potential classified documents? yes. these people. i— potential classified documents? yes. these people, i am _ potential classified documents? yes. these people, i am no _ potential classified documents? t'ezs these people, lam no apologist, these people, i am no apologist, these p

national archives are trying too to play god whether republicans win or democrats win. it was kept to try to influence the outcome of the election. you can't divorce the scandal, hunter biden, you discussed with senator ted cruz z dealing with foreign governments. money hunter biden is subsidized by the life style of joe biden. >> if any of that was true -- hold it, stephen -- if that was true, isn't there a u.s. attorney probing hunter biden for a couple of years? this is a story that exists. this is you guy my guy, trump. now i am going to get your guys, biden. russian gate was a phony scandal. >> sean: let me ask you this, geraldo -- russian gate is massive scandal. left-wing publication came out and condemned "new york times" and other publications. this is a moment. >> sean: i want to ask a last question: when you look at the astronomical amount of money bidens made, joe biden's lie he never talked about to hunter or any other family member of foreign business dealings. i'll pick three countries, ukraine, no experience, made millions. russia, millions, no experienc

the national archives is responsible for maintaining medical records for our veterans but our veterans could not get access to these records because the archives staff were at home. this is unacceptable. and it should be downright embarrassing to these agencies. the american people have struggled with high inflation, scarce goods, prolonged and disruptive lockdowns and other hardships. meanwhile, the biden administration has showered federal workers with perks and pay increases all while working from home. but federal employees not being in the workplace hurt the federal government's ability to achieve its missions and deliver vital programs. house republicans have fought hard to find out just how much expanded telework has decreased agencies' ability to deliver services to our constituents. and we have tried to get this information from the biden administration but to no avail. during the last congress, the house oversight ranking member, i wrote to the administration requesting information on federal workforce return to work policies. but the biden administration failed to provide ad

they signed documents saying they had turned everything over to the national archives. it turns out there were hundreds of documents that weren't turned over. this is something investigators have to dig in and see if there are some documents that are maybe still in the residence that should have been handed over, and every time we talk about this, katy, we have to talk about the over classification. are there documents that might have been misstored? there are so many documents that get misclassified, when they're not that sensitive or imperative to the national security interests of the united states. >> if the fbi finds more today, is that what could trigger a special counsel or -- because vice president pence is not one of the central yet at least 2024 figures, is it unlikely he's going to get a special counsel. what do you know about that? >> you and i have pontificated about what would happen next in the pence part of the classified document conversation. the last point you pointed out is a significant thing that merrick garland would be weighing. he's looking at t

work was carried out in three areas, one of them was the digitization of documents from the national archival fund. over a million 300,000 electronic pages were created. at an expanded meeting, colleagues outlined the prospects and tasks of belarusian archivists for the coming year. from light airy watercolor yes to heavy and bright abstractionism in the business and cultural center of the embassy belarus in moscow for the first time exhibition vitebsk artist presented more than 30 works. this is painting, graphics and culture, all the authors are artists of the modern vitebsk school, which is famous in its history . whose names the whole world knows and today the exhibition in vitebsk artist continues the tradition of his great teachers, when we found that very much for many. uh, the wind school of art ends in the twenties and already further the names of our artists are practically not known, but they are very interesting and popular in their homeland, and therefore i would like it to be wider, because the whole world knows the vitebsk art school, so we, for example, took one of the directi

it locked national archives. president biden mishandling u.s. secrets, states are moving to stop female athletes from being injured by transgendered athletes, and more people telling wolf wall street keep your hands off our money. and media is bearing down hard on 2024 contender governor ron desantis. i am elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. elizabeth: we begin with stocks ending mostly up, nazdaq with the best daily gain since november. these bellwether stocks on the economy, apple, google and amazon, they have been moving up and down after hours. amazon reporting it had a 2.7 billion dollar loss last year, week wall street liking the guide, gho google disappointed in profits and sales. susan lee with the story. reporter: i spoke with ceo tim cook on the earnings. really he said it comes down to 3 factors, the slowing global economy, making the dollar stronger and reduction lockdowns in china. and china production is back to where they need it to be. i asked him what he saw for u.s. consumer and economy, cook said, what he

current and past presidential directors and historians to discuss the relationship between the national archives and presidential libraries as well as the declassification process. this runs an hour.

we just learned that when the national archives found classified midterms. wouldn't be senator, zel. the white house was asked about this today. >> would the white house have revealed today's search white house counsel's office i would refer to you that. >> jesse: the binder looks defeated today and starting to feel bad for the binder. >> i wonder how the white house can claim they are being transparent when the fbi search of the penn biden center that happened months ago was not proactively to the public. what should the public think you are keeping information from the public. >> i'm going to be very prudent and consistent from here. i'm not going to comment anything that is related. >> jesse: the binder is prudent. she looks like she knows something she shouldn't. like someone told her she might have to testify to the special counsel if she keeps running her mouth. because, if this is just all an accident, you know, where some staffer packed up the wrong box. what's with the cover-up? >> did anyone at the white house at any point tell the national archive

the committee requested, sought information from the national archives. maybe that's happened before but it got a lot more focus this time. i would love anyone to comment on what happened and do you think that will happen more and more? >> i would say there was part of it that was novel and part of it that wasn't. our committee had jurisdiction over the archives and presidential records act. the pra has a provision that lets committees request documents from previous administrations and provision to notify the previous president in case there is some assertion of privilege. that part was not novel. in this case you had a former president trying to assert a privilege and a current president not and it was litigated. in terms of going to the archives for information, that is more of a routine thing. i think the coronavirus committee also did that and on the senate side when they do nominees, supreme court justices that previously worked in the white house, documents would be requested from the archives and sent over. i would like to flag one thing, he flagg