shawn vanderziel, the big boss of the national association of colleges and employers, a real pleasurehe show and we'll talk to you soon. thank you so much. well, back to the uk now because it is home to some of the world's top institutions for higher education. but are they doing enough to prepare their students to take the next step? well, to find out, i've gone straight to the source with the big boss of universities uk. vivienne stern, a real pleasure having you on the show. and vivienne, let's start with this, because if we look at the numbers, let's be frank, they're not great. i mean, there's a decline in the number of graduate jobs being advertised. that's compared to last year. starting salary increases, they're well below inflation. vivienne, just how difficult of a time is it for people leaving university at the moment? well, i think you've got to take a short—term and a long—term view. i mean, the sort of broader economic conditions, i think there's a widespread consensus. we've got to get our economy moving again and creating jobs and growing. but there's absolutely no que