o'connor she is coordinator for the kids rights to read project at national coalition against censorship thank you so much for joining me so why this book. why this book i really wish i could tell you i think that there's been unfortunately a complete lack of transparency and goeth before the ban and when the ban was first handed down and then afterwards when the school was backtracking to try and decide what it excuse what excuse it would use and it finally settled on this panel in the book that does the pick a man who was a family friend of the main character being tortured and then ultimately murdered but that is something that obviously goes hand in hand was evolution and it's portrayed in a very almost quieter sanitary way in the book and the book has many affecting parts and i think that as your reporter rightly noted chicago public school students have seen their share of violence and this just book i'm sure is nothing shocking or alarming to them now the book's author claims that torture in this book is limited to one frame and that children these days are exposed to much more gr