event and what is supposed to is supposed to happen there well we're gathering at the national constitution center which is quite purpose given that the supreme court has essentially ruled that for thirty years mia has been sitting on death row and it constitutionally and unlawfully this is a huge victory for us given that the courts have finally approved what we've been saying for thirty years but this is a half victory because we really need released because he's innocent we're gathering here at the national constitution center at seven o'clock and you've already outlined the speakers for this evening we have a sold out house and in many ways the decision of the supreme court but also the announcement on the part of the d.a. that he would not seek the death penalty once more has really put when the wind under our sails and we're we're prepared to free move me and in in the near future why is it that you and so many others are calling a form of media to be free to be released without even a new trial well. archbishop desmond tutu put it perfectly he essentially said that life in prison without pa

off in philadelphia to mark that thirtieth anniversary this is a sold out event at the national constitution center as grand hall guest include cornel west immortal technique and archbishop desmond tutu will be speaking on video now dave lindorff wrote a book about the lumia case it's called killing time and investigation into the death row case of movie abu jamal dave is in philadelphia to speak more about this with us and david i know this is a case that you care deeply about you spent years researching and investigating it on this thirty year anniversary what is the thing you think people should know about movie abu jamal. well first of all he clearly had a trial that was a sham there were this. minute clear evidence that a lot of the prosecution witnesses were perjuring themselves and the other thing is that he has almost no way to get out of jail now short of a new witness coming forward because of the way our system blocks appeals by by people who are in these situations and as we know his appeal process has been blocked time and time again i talk about the system talk about i think that's on

it is appropriate that we are doing this here at the national constitution center because one of the things the founders were serious about unlike regimes in europe but they were starting this country to be unlike, they wanted to make sure we had a record of our leader is, what they thought about what they did in office and also they hoped that record would be open as soon as possible. [inaudible] >> can everyone here? >> there so much noise over to the right. [inaudible] is that what it is? >> it's a big crowd of people trying to get upstairs, which for an author is news you like to year, so will speak louder. nne caius, they hope that we have hope for what the leaders thought as soon as possible so we can learn from successes and shortcomings. as i would say, donald rumsfeld's book is in that tradition. i'm glad it's published. i think you are, too. >> thank you or >> the book is on mr. rumsfeld's entire life. i thought we'd begin by talking about iraq and work backwards. a great deal of the book is about iraq. i guess maybe the way to get into this as here we are in the constituti

he said that with historian michael beschloss at the national constitution center in philadelphia. this is an hour and 10 minutes. >> without we would have the scattering because secretary rumsfeld's book has not been getting very much attention, so we thought we would make up for that bailey by at least having one event. i know you're not doing anything else to make sure the boat gets the attention it deserves. it is appropriate that we are doing this here at the national constitution center because one of the things the founders were serious about unlike regimes in europe but they were starting this country to be unlike, they wanted to make sure we had a record of our leader is, what they thought about what they did in office and also they hoped that record would be open as soon as possible. [inaudible] >> can everyone here? >> there so much noise over to the right. [inaudible] is that what it is? >> it's a big crowd of people trying to get upstairs, which for an author is news you like to year, so will speak louder. nne caius, they hope that we have hope for what the leaders tho

he sat down with historian, michael beschloss at the national constitution center in philadelphia. this is an hour and 10 minutes. >> we thought we would have this little gathering becauseuld have secretary rumsfeldspoke has notc been getting much attention, so we thought we'd make up for tha. baileys having one of that.n i know you're not doing anything else to make sureyke the book ga the attention itt deserves. des. it is appropriate that we are doing this here at the national constitution center because one of the things the founders were serious about unlike regimes in europe but they were starting this country to be unlike, they wanted to make sure we had a record of our leader is, what they thought about what they did in office and also they hoped that record would be open as soon as possible. [inaudible] >> can everyone here? >> there so much noise over to the right. [inaudible] is that what it is? >> it's a big crowd of people trying to get upstairs, which for an author is news you like to year, so will speak louder. nne caius, they hope that we have hope for what the lead

national council and other groups. have any of those centers on developing a constitutional framework that protects all religious minorities and allows the free practice of religion? has that been the case? if not, why not? >> thank you for your question. the issue you have raised has been precisely the focus of every single interaction we have had with the syrian opposition. we focused on two points in particular. and again this is mainly with the syrian national council but it would apply across the board to other organizations. number one, it is absolutely essential that minorities, whether they be christians, kurds or whenever be adequately represented on the inside. in these organizations. and there is significant progress being made in that direction. number 2 -- >> can you elaborate on the progress being made? >> there are people being incorporated into the organization particularly the syrian national council. the syrian national council is actively recruiting people and it is having some success. in some cases, i am sure you understand why this is the case, particularly for syrian national council members living i

constitution, and the evolution of power to the provinces. there was no planning for the indolent nation -- for the implementation of that evolution. there is a squabble between the center the provinces with the center is saying to the provinces, you handle all these sectors, and the provinces saying, we do not know how we're provide the resources to manage them. then they understood there was a model which the center had followed which bill rally did too, which was deficits financing. they saw that they had thatpumjab bank, was an atm machine. now i have requests from the other provinces to set up their other banks said they can incurred these deficits and turn to the center and say, please go ahead and play this bill. and it just in sidelight to this shift is even in the military the population that has moved closer to the city's or is in the cities is now in being recruited by the military,, particularly in the officer class. when i was doing my analysis, that showed in the decade ending 2005, or officers were corroded -- recruited from karachi. sell a shift in the recruitment to districts that were more in central and southern punjab, also districts that are impover