representation in ukraine or the countries of the european union, communicated with the national regulator, that is, from the national council of television and radio broadcasting, provided all the necessary information about who their owners are, because what the russian federation does through social networks is hundreds of times more harmful than what any of our services will do some of our leaders in order to promote him and destroy his political opponents, and this will also harm ... the leaders and their enemies, because everyone is in the same boat here. by the way, the russians also discussed last week about what to do with this telegram service, and most of the government and other structures in russia, they said that telegram is a good messenger, and it helps us a lot, it should work, and what the russians are talking about, that it helps, it immediately raises certain questions. mykola knyazhytsky correctly says that communication is needed with those who have access, who, or who is responsible for the entire network and who actually administers this network, if those who are administrators of this network are connected to the ukrainian side, the ukr

of information , this is normal, and here we are aware of our responsibility, journalists who work in the official media, which are regulated by law, and are also subject to regulation by the national council of television and radio broadcastingo anything, and as we saw in this survey, it will be important for the deputies, i think, to tell about it, if the question is considered that we have an overwhelming majority of ukrainians, how many 53 percent of ukrainians get information from ukrainian telegram channels, and another 1% from russian ones, well , let's do something about regulation, how do you feel about it and are you convinced that on this will go, because again, telegram channels are a big field for manipulation, hate, black pr and leaking information for many politicians in ukraine itself, that's what's the problem, and you won't find the extreme, what's most important, eh, actually, absolutely right, there's this very fine red line that you can't cross... the line that is there's a difference between controlling, so to speak, what happens in to this telegram information space, and accordingly to prohibit something, that is, we understand that it is this the border, it is actually very thin, and when we talk about

and here we are aware of our responsibility. journalists who work in the official media, which are regulated by law and are also subject to regulation by the national council of television and radio broadcasting, right away no one is subject to anything, and as we saw in this survey, it will be important for the deputies as well, i i think i should say this, if the issue is considered that we have the vast majority of ukrainians, how many 53% of ukrainians get information from ukrainian telegram channels, and another 1% from russian ones, well, let's do something about regulation, what do you think about this? are you convinced that they will go for it, because, again, telegram channels are a big platform for manipulation, hate, black pr and leaking information for many politicians in ukraine itself, that's what the problem is, and you won't find an extreme one, what is most important, and, in fact, absolutely right, here is this one such a very thin red line that cannot be crossed, a line that consists in the fact that there is a difference between controlling, so to speak, what happens in... in this information space of the telegram and, accordingly, something to prohibit, that is, well, we

repeatedly appealed to the president, the cabinet of ministers, the national security and defense council. of the national council for television and radio broadcasting, but we did not receive a clear answer: who and why limited the broadcasting of the channel? this is pure censorship, this is a violation of freedom of speech in ukraine, because indeed today on the t2 network on the button, on for 10 years, the espressu tv channel was broadcast, today the rada tv channel is broadcast, the rada tv channel is a state channel, it is a participant in the single news marathon, and instead of espresso... people who still use and watch auto-2 tv can watch it again marathon the only news that comes out today, if i'm not mistaken, is on eight or nine tv channels, which means they don't have access to information, to alternative information, to various mass media, to such an independent tv channel as presso. in the state special communications explained that the reasons for turning off espresso the fifth and direct from digital broadcasting, allegedly in... implementation of the march 2022 decision of the council of national security and defense on the unified

, in fact, recently mykola knyazhytskyi and i recalled our very old experience, when we were both members of the national council on television radio broadcastinge united states a month after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. so, how did it work there, well, the nation was in shock, because the territory of the united states was attacked for the first time after perlgar, that is, since the year 41, thousands of people, we know, more than 300 americans died very quickly and a very difficult death, which means, well, this is such, you know, i apologize, irritation, and the leading media decided that they should take the initiative themselves, and in fact, in all the leading american media, they identified, they themselves identified a person who will be responsible for participating in such a completely informal. no, who would coordinate the national.

repeatedly appealed to the president, the cabinet, and the council. of national security and defense, national council for television and radio broadcastingreceive a clear answer: who and why limited the broadcasting of the channel. this is pure censorship, this is a violation of freedom of speech in ukraine, because indeed today the t2 network is on the button on which the espressu tv channel was broadcast for 10 years.

was, if i am not mistaken, the first deputy chairman. you worked in the national council for television and radio broadcasting ofmedia and, well, in principle, you are the person who created the media, regulated the media, influenced these media, but andriy osadchuk had a question about whether there is an information policy now, because the parliamentary committee that you head , he is on humanitarian and information issues there is no policy, minister of culture and information policy, but is there an information policy in addition to the name in yours? let's go, information policy, of course, that's what it is , so let's go, colleagues, well, it seems to me that none of the three of us watches the marathon, maybe even four, maybe mr. serhii only the only thing that i don't know is due to work responsibilities , so, but, well, let's work with numbers, even by the most pessimistic estimates. in the latest sociological studies, the marathon is trusted, trusted, watched because it is more in fact, at least 40% of citizens trust, it's not zero, yes, that is, it's... it 's still a powerful tool, so how does it happ

meeting of the editors is planned, according to svitlana postapa, again on wednesday, and we know about the constructive role olha gresimyuk of the national council for radio broadcasting and televisions say, spoke. not only from the position of preventing redistribution, which of course will further reduce trust in the single marathon, but also actively now looking for mechanisms to explain that such steps should not to be carried out, now it's all at the level of, let's say, meetings, negotiations, chats and the like, but this threat is much more than... the actual informational messages from maryana, although of course they also deserve and definitely receive an assessment. the aforementioned svitlana astapa, mentioned by you , commented on the espresso broadcast precisely about the initiative to remove social media from the evening slot of the telethon. according to her, such a decision may be caused by the authorities' desire to influence the editorial policy or by a commercial component. let's listen to what svitlana ostapa said. maybe there are some stop lists for other channels or something else, as the opposition says, they are often forwarded and installed, they agree on sp

and the cabinet of ministers more than once. national security and defense council, national council on television and radio broadcasting. ver , we did not receive a clear answer: who and why limited the broadcasting of the channel? this is pure censorship, that violation of freedom of speech in ukraine, because today the tv channel rada is actually broadcast on the t2 network, on the button on which the espresso tv channel was broadcast for 10 years. tv channel rada is a state channel, it is a participant of the only new marathon. and instead of espresso, people who still use and watch tv avto2, they can watch the marathon again. the only news that comes out today, if i'm not mistaken, on eight or nine tv channels, and that is , they do not have access to information , to alternative information, to various means mass information, to such an independent tv channel as espresso. the state intelligence service explained that the reasons for turning off espresso on the fifth. direct from digital broadcasting, the alleged implementation of the decision of march 2022 of the council of national security and defense on the unifi

and we discussed it with our colleagues on the committee, we had a very interesting experience, we were on a business trip together, we were then members of the national council for television and radio broadcasting it was a month after the terrorist attack on the twin towers, i.e. it was october 2001, and we met there with the heads of many american television companies, well, in fact , radio stations too, but let's talk now about television companies, so it was interesting there, there was an interesting system developed at that time, ah, so the state actually had nothing to do with it in the sense that it was not the initiator, although it participated in those processes, understanding how shocked the nation was by this attack on... the united states, which did not happen from perlgar, that is, from the 41st year, as far as it is necessary, balanced and responsible attitude to the information policy, it was decided at the media level, again, to determine from each media an authorized representative from the management, and thus there was such a circle of people , which regularly among themselves... communicated in the beginning, as far as we remember, with mykola knyazhytskyi, almost every day

been working in the media for a long time and was, if i am not mistaken, the first deputy chairman of the national council for television and radio broadcasting old media, you worked and, well, in principle, you are the person who created the media, who regulated the media, influenced these media, but andriy osadchuk had a question as to whether there is currently an information policy, because the parliamentary committee that you head deals with humanitarian and information issues there is no policy, minister of culture and information policy, but is there an information policy in addition to the name in your cabinet during the war in the state, let's say so, information policy, of course there is. so let's go colleagues, well, it seems to me that none of the three of us watches the marathon, maybe even four, maybe mr. serhiy is the only one that i don't know, because of work duties, so, but, well, let's work with numbers, even according to the most pessimistic estimates, in the latest sociological studies, the marathon is trusted, trusted, watched, because more actually. trust, at least 40% of citizens, it is not zero, yes, that is, it is s

country, can absolutely calmly work in ukraine, responding to requests. of the national television and radio broadcasting council all this is not available, then the state has the right to prohibit such services used by civil servants , so that at least these services are not installed on the computers and phones of civil servants , the security service of ukraine, foreign intelligence of the state departments of ukraine, large banks, because when large banks create their chatbots in such social networks and teach or offer citizens to put their personal data there, then all these data, if the servers are located on the territory of russia and the network is not... or closed, have every chance to end up in the fsb and russian intelligence. in order for all this not to happen, the ukrainian state must provide for itself and its citizens, this is what this draft law is about. why did they start talking about telegram? because telegram is the network most accused of ownership opacity, technical code opacity, the fact that their servers are in russia, and we know that there are countries that ban telegram, or have pr

the national security and defense council, the national council for television and radio broadcasting. however, a clear answer, who and what. we did not receive restrictions on the broadcasting ofis is pure censorship, this is a violation of freedom of speech in ukraine, because today the espresso tv channel is actually being broadcast today on the t2 network, on the button on which the espresso tv channel was broadcast for 10 years tv channel rada, tv channel rada is a state channel, it is a participant of the marathon single news, and instead of espresso, people who still use and watch tv avto2 can watch it. this is once again a marathon of the only news that is today.

cabinet, the national security and defense council, the national council for television and radio broadcasting. however, clear we did not receive an answer as to who and why limited the broadcasting of the channel. this is pure censorship, it is a violation of freedom of speech in ukraine, because today it is actually on the t-2 network, on a button that is 10 years old. the express tv channel was broadcast, today the rada tv channels are broadcast, the rada tv channel is a state channel, it is a participant in the single news marathon, and instead of espresso, people who still use and watch auto-2 tv can watch the single news marathon again , which airs today, if i'm not mistaken , on eight or nine tv channels, yes, that is they do not have access to information, to alternative information, to various mass media, to such an independent tv channel as espresso. the state intelligence service explained that the reason for turning off espress, the fifth and direct from digital broadcasting, was the alleged implementation of the decision of... march 2022 of the council of national security and defense on the unified information policy, this body and others denied their intervention in t

national security and defense council, and the national television council. radio broadcasting, but we did not receive a clear answer as to who and why limited the channel's broadcasting. this is pure censorship, this is a violation of freedom of speech in ukraine, because today the rada tv channel is actually broadcast on the t2 network, on the button on which the spresso tv channel was broadcast for 10 years. the rada tv channel is a state channel, it is a participant in the only news marathon, and instead of espresso people use it to this day. and watch avto2 tv, they can watch again the only news marathon, which is broadcast today, if i am not mistaken, on eight or nine tv channels, yes, that is, they do not have access to information, to alternative information, to various media mass information, to such independent tv channel, like espresso. the state intelligence service explained that the reason for turning off espresso, the fifth and direct digital broadcaster, was the alleged implementation of the march 2000 decision of the 22nd year of the national security and defense council on a unified information policy. this body and others have denied their involvement in the shutdown of tv channels. this document

of what should be regulated after all, these telegram channels that exist in ukraine should be regulated, but not banned, but the regulator has the council from the national council for television and radio broadcasting the right to inquire there at representatives of the telegram about the activities of certain channels that are working, and it is possible that those channels are harming ukraine, in some way to limit these activities. these telegram channels. maxim, do you think it will not be perceived as censorship, and considering the fact that the telegram channel is now really, or as a resource, a service, it has become one of those messengers that every person has, and here we are through telegram -channels we will learn operational information, including about when russia, how it fires, where the shaheds are flying and everything else? well, actually, here it is in the details and... is the point, because it is clear that we cannot follow the path of china or the russian federation or iran and install some, so to speak, gateways that would not allow some information to our fellow citizens, or prohibit some information platforms, firstly, they will still be bypassed, secondly, it is like a non

regulated, but not... take them, but the regulator the national television and radio broadcasting council has the right to inquire from representatives of the telegram about the activities of those or other channels that work and maybe those channels harm ukraine, in some way limit the activity of these telegram channels. maxim, do you think this will not be perceived as censorship, and given that the telegram channel is now real, or as a resource? service, it has become one of those messengers that every person has, and through telegram channels we learn operational information, including when russia is shelling, where the shaheds are flying and everything else, well, actually here it is in detail and and and that's the point, because it's clear that we can't follow the path of china or the russian federation or iran there. er and er to install some er so to speak as if it does not correspond to democratic principles and freedom of speech, but at the same time, of course, it is necessary to realize... the potential and real harm that certain information channels, including telegram channels, can cause, it must be clearly identified. an