." >> "this is america" is made possible by the national education association, the nation's largest advocate for children and public education. poongsan corporation, forging a higher global standard. the rotondaro family trust. the ctc foundation. afo communications. >> let me backtrack. educate me. when i say dr. seyyed nasr, to conclude hossein -- >> hossein is my first name, seyyed is an honorific name given to my family. >> but the first name is important? >> yes, hossein is my first name. >> thank you. i will call you dr. as well. in islam, there is no picture of god, is there? >> no, and in this sense, it is similar to judaism. one cannot make an image of god. to make an image is to limit. you cannot have an image without limitation of lines, colors, forms, so forth. god is beyond limitation. >> wherever one is creating, it is there a feeling of an intellectual concept? >> it is all of those. first of all, is the presence, then a feeling, and then an intellectual point. sometimes a warmth, elements of nature that are symbolic of pretoria letties. but in give you an example. pro

. >> "this is america" is made possible by the national education association, the nation's largest advocate for children and public education. poongsan corporation, forging a higher global standard. the ctc foundation. afo communications. and the rotandaro family trust. >> having heard so much about finland's successes in public education, i had a chance to sit and talk with tapio kosunen from the ministry of education in finland. why is education and finland -- wise education in finland so successful? what is the real answer? >> it is very much appreciated. >> appreciated? by the general public? >> by the general public and as a means to have a decent life. >> so, you are not so much concerned, i gather if i am hearing you correctly, not so much with scores and statistics, but more as a total human being? >> yes. that is the point. we do not use any standardized tests. >> would you say that again out loud? >> we do not use any standardized tests in finland. actually, we have won a standardized test. which is the examination after secondary school. >> towards the end of their time at second

with the president of the national education association. the "full court press," thursday morning.ght back. >> announcer: heard around the country and seen on current tv, this is the "bill press show." the powerful may steal an election, but they can't steal democracy. [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> announcer: this is the "bill live on your radio and current tv. >> bill: 27 minutes now after the hour. tuesday on the "full court press." >> bill: 24 minutes after the hour. we're talking debate. and we're talking particularly education. and nobody better to talk about education and the difference between president obama and mitt romney on the subject of education than dennis van roekel, the president of the national education association. dennis, on the ballot, before we get to our calls and more about the debate last night related on the ballot in california is a ballot measure and which would forbid teacher's unions from making any contributions to political candidates and i've heard this proposed as legislation in congress and other people are talking about it. why should teachers be able to mak

it's the national education association. they're number four on that list.hat list is a republican. they want to eliminate the teachers' unions so republicans can win easier. let's bring in our own professor professor, tricia rose professor at brown university. i'm curious on your thoughts about this, professor rose, what do you make of this? >> you know, cenk, in is a strategic education. union versus been under enormous assault over the past 40 years. they're at an low, and it's a been a continuous attack. it's the idea that union workers get liveable wages, and this resource is interrupted by unions. in the case of this teachers' union and this film, this is an appalling campaign to take real parents' concern and anxiety about the quality of education and dutch dump it on one source of a massive web. it's very disappointing to see actors and actresses and others really being so deeply unaware of this assault. >> cenk: professor rose, one more thing i see why they're attacking teachers' unions as we just laid out the case, but i've begun to change my mind

joining me now is national education association president dennis.s valentine is part of this new effort by the nea. what else have you and the american federation of teachers been doing to mobilize membership ahead of the election. >> we've been working hard and talking to our members getting information out and comparing the candidates. we want them to be sure that there is more than one mitt romney running for president. from the primaries to the general election to the debates he seems to want to have it two or three ways. on the one hand, he says he loves teachers and knocks their unions. he says he cares about kids in school and says class size doesn't matter. every parent knows it does. he says investing in education lk build the economy and then to the des moines be register he said hiring teachers won't help the economy. but president obama has been consistent for four years and through this campaign. his commitment to education from preschool to graduate, increasing completely grants, fixing the loan program so money goes to striving studen

i was dennis johnson from the children's health fund and the national education association, who also just had a new baby. so what we have here is sort of a mixed bag in people talked about that. for some indicators, were doing very well by kid. so we are very close to the finish line on children's health coverage and what the work she medicaid, the children -- passage of the children's health insurance program an extension of the children's health insurance program come with less than 10% of our nation kids lack health insurance today. a profound improvement. in other areas, making strides. people talk race to the top funds for efforts on early childhood in the where we've made enormous strides, but have a ways to go. in other areas we feel strongly that we are really feeling to prioritize kids and have a lot of work to do. lots terms of the policies and a near the finish line in some places in midfield. in some places we are just starting out. so one thing i want to cite as you did a poll recently with public opinion strategies is a republican firm's family asked the american public

it's the american federation of teachers, the national education association, it's, it is one huge money waste. megyn: the problem is we talked about in the intro, if you have one state we help, where does it stop? the governor of illinois came out and said, oh, first of all, that was just a precautionary plan and second of all, that was just a drafting error. >> yeah. megyn: because there was such pushback. are we to believe him that this is not something he's going to come to washington hat in hand asking for, and you tell me whether i know demint, a republican, doesn't want to give it to him, but right now we have divided government. we have the republicans in control of the house, the democrats of the senate and a democrat in the white house, if we have singular government, you know, are we more likely to grant states -- >> i will guarantee you this, if president obama's reelected, if the democrats maintain control of the senate and take control of the house, it is an iron lock guarantee -- i'm saying it right now -- that you will see the federal government pony up for every one of t

brought to you today by the national education association.achers banding together to fight for better schools for our kids! that's why we ought to be supporting them, not attacking them. and the nea in particular under president dennis van roekel creating great public schools for every student in this country. for more information don't listen to mitt romney, go to their web site, nea.org. nea.org. well we have -- one of the big issues that came up in the last debate on foreign policy was afghanistan. iraq afghanistan syria libya iran but particularly afghanistan where both president obama and mitt romney said well, we'll be out by 2014. that's just the right plan. is it? we check in with one of our good friends, up early in the morning on the west coast god bless her! congresswoman barbara lee. hi congresswoman, how are you? good to talk to you. let me ask you how are things looking in california in terms of the ballot measures, the big issue i guess is governor jerry brown's initiative proposition 30 to try to balance the budget there in ca

[applause] >> dennis johnson is from the children's health fund and mary is from the national education association who also just had a new baby. what we have here is sort of a mixed bag, and people talked about that. some indicators were doing very well by kids. so we talked about and we are very close to the finish line on children's health coverage. with the work between medicaid, the passage of the childress health insurance program, and extension of the children's health insurance program, we have less than 10% of our nation's kids lack health insurance today. a profound improvement. other areas where making strides, people talk about the race to the top funds and the efforts of early childhood, where we've made enormous strides but still have a ways to go. and in other areas we feel strongly that we are really selling to prioritize kids and have a lot of work to be. we are in football season, some places where near the finish line. someplace where kind of at midfield and some places we are just starting out. so one thing i wanted to cite is we did a poll recently with public opinion strategie

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chamber, but then fbi you, service employees international union and the national education association a first-year teachers unions. the three of the top five spending were labor unions and were very disclosed every month. a lot of what labor does is not disclosed at the same way. they have not been visible. idea back between 20,792,011, impacting the political process of the state and local level. it's a lot of money in politics, but a lot of people are talking about were the most money is coming from. this alternative back. >> so american crossroads is very quivery active in the presidential election. if you go in today with $12 million -- >> this is a president obama said the jobless or would be if we pass the stimulus is 5.6%. but this is where the jobless rate actually is. 8.1%. the difference? about 3.7 million jobs. obama spending was $5 trillion deeper in debt and now we have fewer jobs than when he started. but obama promised versus what he delivered. >> american crossers is responsible for the content of this advertising. >> oppose the president. we were talking about how to

rounding out the top five were seiu, and the national education association, everybody's favorite teachers union. three of the top five spending groups were not super pacs but labor unions. one of the differences you see in 2010, people think of the crossroads group as being the biggest spenders in the 2010 election, but we were not. the largest group of expenditures or by the between labor unions and super pacs, labor union disclosed -- super pacs disclose a lot of other things but labor unions do not appear they are able to spend more money that is not visible to the political process. >> and with that, we will have a counterpoint. but for the sake of time. >> "the wall street journal" showed in a piece in july that big labor had spent $4.4 billion between 2007 and 2011 impacting the process at the state, federal, and local level. there is a lot of money in politics but people did not talk about where most of the money is coming from, the labor unions. we have a spot to show. american crossroads is very active in the presidential election. this is a spot that we launched today in eight s

600,000 unfilled positions on an on-going basis through the national association of manufacturers jobs board.' stressing the value of an educationat leads to employment was central to the presentation of economist garret jones, who served as an advisor to republican senator orrin hatch of utah. 'one thing we can have is an education system that actually builds skills workers can use. so moving in the direction of internships and apprenticeships is really the best thing we can do.' bill daley, a veteran of both the clinton and obama administrations, agreed. 'that's the paramount thing we should have as the focus of people. yes, thinking for thinking's sake is good, but when you're trying to put together an education system, what's the end result? a better society, a more productive society.' in addition to their own ideas, the speakers also shared some insights on grading the ideas of political candidates. 'what should a voter consider when looking at ideas to fix the economy, what's most important? 'what's realistic to get accomplished. not what the philosophy is, but what can actually get done to implement that philosophy. 'any

education. and sacramento can't touch it. me? the sky's my limit. >>> for a second straight day wall street is in rally mode. the national association home builders, says confidence among home billers is the highest among six years. there's still shock on wall street over the sudden resignation of the citibank ceo and coo. taking a live look at the big board. >>> we have news of a major art theft. seven paintings were stolen including a picasso, two monets and andes from a -- matties from a dutch museum. it's clear they stole the paintings off the wall, not clear how. they were on loan from a private foundation. >>> a ruling about a phone book ordinance in seattle could keep san francisco's plans from keeping unwanted books from being delivered. the circuit court of appeals ruled phone books are a protected form of speech. that could affect plans for a pilot program in san francisco that would keep unwanted books from being delivered. it was scheduled to begin in may but is on hold pending the outcome of a lawsuit filed by a trade group. >>> tonight on ktvu channel 2 news at 5 -- we get you ready for the second debate between presid

the briefing by the naleo educational fund on election 2012. naleo's a national association of latino elected and appointed officials. we're two organizations, one is a membership organization of the nation's latino public b servants serving on school boards, county commissions, state legislatures all the way up to members of congress and the united states senate. the educational fund is a nonpartisan organization whose mission is to promote the full participation of latinos in the american political process encouraging legal permanent residents, encouraging all u.s. citizens 18 years and older to be counted in the 2010 census as we did two years ago. we also provide training opportunities for latino elected and appointed officials, and we promote a policy framework to make sure that participation in many our electoral democracy is accessible to latinos. today what we'd like to do is to share with you two new reports from the naleo educational fund with regard to this year's elections as well as go through, once again, talking about the impact latino voters will have on nove

national telecommunications cooperative association. she oversees a wide variety of programs ranging from you-based initiatives and educational materials, and consumer awareness of rural economic development. she worked for senator joseph lieberman, secretary of energy bill richardson, at the white house, as well as at a foundation. please give a warm welcome to elizabeth crocker, ladies and gentlemen. [applause] >> thank you so much. welcome, everyone. i was looking around the room and thinking we have such a variety of folks. people from usda, from the farm bureau, and it's indicative of the issue, because it touches many different industry sectors. it's nice to have you all here. thank you to everyone in the room and everyone watching on the web and on c-span. we are a 501 (c)(3) non-profit and are dedicated to improving lives in rural america. we're also dedicated to making sure all americans have a central telecommunications service. essential is the key word because that's a moving target over the past couple years. it changes rapidly. what people needed five years or 15 years ago is not what they need today. broadband has become

and i think manufacturing associate american to national defense to innovation to education. i would like to ask both of these good panelists to give us an impassioned statement that they would give to their candidates about why manufacturing -- >> the great question. thank you for asking it. right. we give that a short shrift. i think we both very much tried to accentuate the importance, but not as passionately as we should. so here's the thing. here's my impassioned. not only have we mentioned manufacturers responsible for 70% of r&d and 90% of patents, is critically important for productivity. there's simply no way american living standards can increase at that faster productivity growth retaken manufacturing sector outcome innovation that is out of the picture and we don't even have the potential for higher living standards. with a big problem in the productivity growth diversion from compensation. you've got to have the growth. that's necessary, not sufficient. good quality jobs. 17% pay premium, not just on the wage site, but the benefit side as well comes from value ad

. >> the national association -- [inaudible] [inaudible] >> i would be spending 10% of gdp on education. in my view, i think history tells us that that's the level, which the best performing economies in the world typically -- were now at about eight. we used to be at 10 and we are now at about eight. korea, the single most successful economy of the last 50 years is that 10 and has been at 10 cents that was a poor country. and to me, that's what i would do. and so, all i'm saying is that we start with the public system. i think that the government should do, but in my view, i would also provide assistance to vary income dependent assistance to president editions as well. [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] >> well, look, it's the markets have produced the growing inequality. these are inequalities pretax income. the post-tax income is a little less unequal, but the truth is, you know, we provide lots of tax benefits for people in the top two as well. so we're certainly not doing anything to counter it, to counter what the market is producing. for some reason, and it's got to be changes

. >> this was brought to you by the north carolina association of broadcasters educational foundation. [captioning performed by nationalational cable satellite corp. 2012] >> thanks for watching. >> we need to tackle our nation's challenges before they tackle us. we need to save medicaid and social security. we are putting solutions on the table for that. for my generation and the senators these promises will be kept. they have laid out clearly what they say president obama and joe biden is is endanger medicare. they've done it and you've seen all the ads. >> next thursday night october 1, congressman paul ryan and joe biden will face off in their only debate. you can watch and engage with c-span starting at 7:00 eastern. our live coverage on c-span and online at cspan.org. >> as we look ahead on c-span tomorrow night we'll show you vice presidential debates for the past 25 years. these are the times -- watch all four debates from our archives beginning at 7:00 eastern tomorrow night. >> and live sunday we will have the connecticut senate race debate. that's live sunday morning at 11:00 here on c-span. >> last night ne

education, economic growth and job creation. jay timmons, the president and ceo of the national association of manufacturers, works to insure ourgovernment understands how the policies they propose impact manufacturing. since he took the helm of this powerful organization two years ago, it has grown in strength and stature on capitol hill. matthew shay, the president and ceo of the national retail federation, led nrf to new levels of effectiveness on policy issues increasing awareness and emphasizing political activity. under his leadership nrf scored a number of legislative victories on behalf of the retail industry. today's moderator is catty cay s lead anchor -- katty kay. kay brings a unique and valuable viewpoint to the discussion. she is also the author of "the new york times" bestselling book, women mommics. ladies and gentlemen, please, welcome our panel. [applause] >> thank you very much. and thank you, also, for turning out here on this cold, rather wintry morning in washington d.c. it is now four weeks until america goes to the polls, and it couldn't be a better time to be having this conversation about what is the s

education. i also want to recognize some of the groups or organizations that i provide service and support, aka alpha kappa alpha, the urban league and the urban league guild and nami, the national association for the mentally ill. thankfor being here., of. .. here. i am patricia pickles, the author of "are you in a pickle? lessons learned along the way: students' performance and achievement gaps." i am the first college graduate from ie media family. when i was in high school i was in general classes. i was trapped on the basis of where i lived, my zip code. i was tracked on the basis of what my parents did, or did not do. and i was trapped on the basis of my race. i am extremely passionate about ensuring that every student in every classroom and every school across america has an opportunity to be successful, to have choices. how many of you have children in school? raise your hand. grandchildren? nieces? nephews? cousins. [laughter] then education is your business. education is your business because a substantial amount of tax dollars go to public education. education is your business because we prepare workers. we prepare them. right now almost half of the students who go to higher educ

national communications association for this important program. we think it will be very helpful to you and the public at large. it is a perfect fit in for -- with regard to our own civic education outreach addition to is. not only here in washington but throughout the country. it is very much a part of our mission here at the museum and we believe those of use who visit will get a civic education just walking through the halls here. we are very pleased to be part of this important program. in nancy, i will turn it over to you. >> good afternoon. think you for joining us today. my name is nancy kid, executive director of the national communications association. and on behalf of our almost 8000 members i am pleased to welcome you to our discussion. i would especially like to thank the first amendment studio center for welding -- welcoming us. given the various ways in which communication scholarship can be useful to our citizenry from interpersonal relationship to political engagement, one of the core components of the national communications association mission is to facilitate the dissemination of disciplinary scholarship to a public audience. there are a few activities more im

education. i also want to recognize some of the groups for organizations that i provide service and support. a.k.a., alpha kappa alpha, the urban league and the urban league field -- guild, and the national association for the mentally ill your thank you for being here. i am patricia pickles, the author of "are you in a pickle? lessons learned along the way: students' performance and achievement gaps." i am the first college graduate from ie media family. when i was in high school i was in general classes. i was trapped on the basis of where i lived, my zip code. i was tracked on the basis of what my parents did, or did not do. and i was trapped on the basis of my race. i am extremely passionate about ensuring that every student in every classroom and every school across america has an opportunity to be successful, to have choices. how many of you have children in school? raise your hand. grandchildren? nieces? nephews? cousins. [laughter] then education is your business. education is your business because a substantial amount of tax dollars go to public education. education is your business because we prepare workers. we prepare them. right now almost half of the students who go to higher education

educate our stakeholders within the states. >> absolutely. and in my list i should have -- how fortuitous the state of delaware. since your governor is the chairman of the national governors' association are working with the governors association on security on a variety of the issues. so, yes with both governors and attorneys general. >> certainly i agree with that. we just having to be with the state attorneys general at every session last night and had an opportunity also to meet governor christie just a few weeks ago in tampa. we have to work hand-in-hand with the state enforcement, law enforcement agencies, with a gubernatorial around the country. we have a state branch and some of you may have worked with working with other governors and legislatures and the attorneys general. so, i am pushing this also allows we talk about national and international the state and local level was just as important. >> next question. yes. >> sorry. we will go over here. >> hi, thank you for being here today. it's been very informative. i was curious as to your thoughts on the possibility of the new domain.pharmacy and what impact you think that might have on the pharmacies. >> that is probably a

i think the democratic party is still held captive by the national education association and the colorado education association here. and education i think is the issue to get to those voters. >> eliot: i'll agree education is an issue when i talk to latino voters. and education as much as anything else is an issue that resonates, touches a nerve. everybody, latino voters, included, of course, cares deeply about. i don't agree the democratic party is hostage. rahm emanuel pushing for reform. teacher's union is not against reform but that debate is a whole separate debate aside for a moment. answer the harder question about immigration. why didn't mitt romney act sooner on the immigration issue both because he don't think he believes the harsh rhetoric he used in the primary. he can't win without it. >> you know, i don't speak for the romney campaign but i also know that this campaign is going to be won or lost on the economy. it is not going to be won or lost on immigration. the fact of the matter is that hispanic voters are probably going to favor barack obama by two to one but i'll tell