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it's a way to defund the national guard if they don't get vaccinated.get their bonuses or tuition benefits done, over so instead of bully, why don't you talk to them ask. >> i agree, the bowling approach have less people vaccinated. if i ask you and convince you and influence you, maybe you will get it but by demand it, there will be pushback and we've seen that. liz: still to come as we are coming up to the bottom of the hour, justice department stonewalling house republicans on the fbi using counterterrorism and criminal unit investigating parent as domestic terrorists. he hearing, he wouldn't know about her policy positions if you only watch msnbc again and again and again focusing only on identity politics keeping you in the dark. keep it here on the evening edit. ♪♪ for being a communist and the attack she was as you just heard her say. she came to the u.s. university is becoming less citizen. liz: not because of where she's born, what you -- show her position, what you call someone who wants central bank to take over all of your bank account and w

the members of the oklahoma national guard and the national guard and all the states the members of the. military. that applies to them. saying we're in oklahoma so we don't believe it applies to us. that doesn't work in federal law and civilian life. it really doesn't work in the united states military. well, today the department of defense did not mince words about how the vaccination status of oklahoma national guardsmen is not the state's call. pentagon spokesman saying the secretary of defense has the authority to require these vaccines for all members of the force, quote, including the national guard. quote, it is a lawful order. so, again, i want to put this on your radar because this may become a big deal and a worrying deal very quickly. how does this get resolved? both sides are armed. if both the oklahoma national guard and the defense department refuse to back down on this, how does this resolve? what happens after that? especially when all the other republican governors around the country decide they're going to do this and defy lawful us military orders? how does that reso

now they certainly would be supported by the national guard, but here's the problem. i've done an evaluation of the available guard units, and there simply is not enough civilian truck drivers that are within the guard units. and so we're actually looking at a smaller number of people who could be as a, could assist with this. but also when i'm talking about the u. s. military, i'm talking about giving this problem the attention it deserves. this is not something i believe is really best set up for the guard to handle. this is something where i say president biden should have an executive order. worked with the department of defense, the secretary to fans, and say last allocate the necessary men women and equipment to get those containers unloaded off those ships, get those containers out of the ports. the big problem, no one's talking about, is there several 100000 containers sitting right there in the ports to day. so they're actually running out of room to bring off containers input into the board. so we've got to clean that backlog out and being able to leverage mi

500 national guard troops.ck to the joe biden white supremacist, you know, comparing kyle rittenhouse to that, if rittenhouse is vindicated, i wonder if joe biden will issue an apology? brian: it would be classy and right. ainsley: do you think? brian: we'll have to see. steve: stay tuned to find out the verdict this could come today or tomorrow right here when we are broadcasting live to your point, ainsley down from south florida we will have all the guests and all the information. >> ainsley: 6:10 on the east coast. coming up next, brand new border numbers are out and show nothing signs of slowing down in the month of october. brian: plus, is the democratic divide seems into the administration. new reports warning of a rift between president biden and vice president harris. coming from cnn are they putting out a brave front as they walk out together in the wind? ♪ i will your shade tree ♪ you be my honey subject ♪ i'll be your honeybee ♪ ♪ season after season. ace your immune support with centrum. now with a

now they certainly would be supported by the national guard, but here's the problem. i've done an evaluation of the available guard units, and there simply is not enough civilian truck drivers that are within the guard units. and so we're actually looking at a smaller number of people who could be as a, could assist with this. but also when i'm talking about the u. s. military, i'm talking about giving this problem the attention it deserves. this is not something i believe is really best set up for the guard to handle. this is something where i say president biden should have an executive order work with the department of defense, the secretary to fans, and say last allocate the necessary men women and equipment to get those containers unloaded off those ships, get those containers out of the ports, the big problem, no one's talking about is there several 100000 containers sitting right there in the ports to day. so they're actually running out of room to bring off containers in put into the for. so we've got to clean that backlog out and being able to leverage militar

if there is a more out of the national guard, how would that affect security on, on national level? say there was a situation like the one we saw on capitol hill the the ra, for example. how would that be dealt with on a, on a water level? i suppose, if that spreads to emergency personnel personnel, uniform, how would that impact services on a federal level? well, that's the question, right? we're seeing in some police departments as many as 40 percent of police and other 1st responder are refusing to take the vaccine. i suspect the numbers are lower among the troops, but it's probably not that much lower. and these are the kinds of things that the, by the ministration needs to think about when they're deciding to try to shove these vaccines down the throat to people who don't want them. and these are the people when you're talking about 1st responders, people in the military, the people that are in the labor pool, these are the people that are the least likely to die of cove. it. so there's not really a good argument, even from a, you know, saving lives standpoint. there's no good

jon: you noted 500 national guard troops there this year, if the national guard had been deployed andlice had been on the streets of kenosha last summer mike you think maybe kyle rittenhouse trial would never have taken place because there wouldn't have been the violence he said compelled him to go to kenosha? >> reading comments from tony eva some of the first night before the facts were known that went to works by mother, 125 national guard troops. tuesday morning the president of united states offered assistance to our democratic governor, democratic governor refused the offer of assistance that only provided 250 national guard troops. woefully inadequate what was occurring in kenosha as people were pouring in from all over the place, chicago, portland, seattle, california from a time we should have set enough was enough kyle rittenhouse incident never even needed to occur if we provided the sufficient resources in the city of kenosha immediately. our government failed to do that and needs to be held accountable. jon: a lot of the businesses burned have not reopened. what's next? >

take a look at this video overnight from wisconsin national guard. they have 500 national guard on standby just they are near waukesha, which i close to milwaukee. many businesses covered by plywood hit as they never even reopen after the unrest just last summer. just an hour, 12 of the 18 juries -- jurors were chosen at random an then the deliberation will begi here. kyle rittenhouse is on trial fo shooting three male last summer following the plea shooting of jacob. the question how long will it take for the jury to decide if he was defending himself that night or if he is responsible for provoking the shootings, no facing five charges. during the more than five hours of closing arguments, prosecutors say that he was pointing a gun before the shooting community and a defens team fighting back saying that there is no proof of that. >> under wisconsin law, you are not allowed to run around and put your gun at people. this is provocation. >> my client didn't shoot at an one and tell he was chased and quartered. but kyle rittenhouse's behavior was prot

oklahoma national guard they will not mandate the vaccine. covid are two of the topics president biden will have from a communist chinese leader xi jinping when he speaks to him at the white house here. arthel: physically for the president next week. he will meet with the mexican president as well. lucas tomlinson live at the white house, thank you. eric. eric: attorney general eric garland directing fbi to look at threats of violence contentious school board phoenix. the national school boards association preparing for thoughts to some parents to domestic terrorism. officials confirming the fox news they did peak with an fda and justice department before the letter was sent to the president. live in washington with mark on this circular route. alexandria. reporter: does a lot of timing issues here people are looking closely at. right now the white house is trying to distance itself from the attorney general's office telling fox news contacts was made with the justice department, d.o.j. took enforcement action on its own. it was outlined in t

is the only national guard he's bringing out is for the people supporting rittenhouse, we will be celebrity but somebody's going to jail will be quite upset. the jury is expected to reconvene at 9 am. >> ben shapiro says the media's racially charged narrative is off-base. listen. >> the media coverage has been discussing from beginning to end. it mirrored the narrative that kyle rittenhouse must have been a white supremacist trump supporter in the middle of the right in 2020 when we were learning america was broken into people who wanted racial justice and people who supported trump and you are on one side or the other and therefore people writing in kenosha were not really rights just peaceful protests and anybody opposing those had to be white supremacist trump supporter, you had president biden feature kyle rittenhouse internet in september of 2020 alongside white supremacists. todd: another young person the liberal media tried to destroy is speaking out. his name, nicholas standman who writes in an op-ed kyle wasn't given his day in court by his critics and neither was i. t

we have national guard standing by the additive the general for the national guard needs additional help, we are there to do it. but today, the request was denied by the governor. >> they want you to forget what was happening, and the city is on fire, you saw the menaces of society, and after mark meadows uttered the words, two people were shot dead in the streets. kyle rittenhouse went to kenosha because he felt like he had to. the leadership created by wisconsin governor tony everett lead to chaos. and people felt like they had to step up and fill the void. people who say rittenhouse had not been in kenosha, they're absolutely right. no private citizen would have felt to protect. and amidst the chaos, 17-year-old ends up shooting three people. claiming self-defense. >> tragically, two people lost their lives, i'm not for a vigilantism. i'm not sure that's what's happening. people felt because the governor and local officials were looking for help. it's not the resolve to end the rioting, so people took advantage and that's what ended up happening. >> lawrence: government failed to do i

defense department turned down national guard request, the best and worst of times.and wouldn't send help. now, i'm not saying that that's the truth. but i'm telling you that at 3:00 in the afternoon, a senior democratic member of congress, who was in an undisclosed location, having been driven out of the building, believed that that was the truth and was signaling to help to the media to raise the question of what they were hearing, and this is someone who's fairly close to nancy pelosi but is not nancy pelosi. they were hearing that this is exactly what was happening at 3:00. they were hearing that the guard was being held back. trying to answer here, dan goldman's question. i think it's the right question to be asking because my contemporaneous reporting suggests there were some senior democrats in that moment who thought that was exactly what was happening. >> well, and the contemporaneous reporting, dan goldman, just to come back to you as the investigator, it was never revealed that donald trump ever called the national guard. i believe the vice president ultim

the governor deploying about 500 national guard troops to kenosha.tenhouse is on trial for shooting three people, killing two during protests in the city last year after the police shooting of jacob blake. during emotional testimony, rittenhouse claimed self-defense saying he was in kenosha to protect businesses. in a new interview, rittenhouse's mother defended r carrying an ar-15 style rifle. >> he bought that gun for protection, and to this day if he didn't have that gun, my son would have been dead. >> reporter: prosecutors have portrayed rittenhouse as a violent vigilante who instigated the deadly chain of events that night. on friday, they asked if they could submit lesser charges against him, something the judge indicated he'll allow. some say that's a sign prosecutors are not confident of a conviction on the more serious charges, including intentional homicide which could carry a life sentence. rittenhouse's mother saying her son is regretful. >> knowing that it was that chaotic, the situation, do you think he should have -- or do you think h

steve: alexis, we understand the national guard has been activated. >> good morning. that's right. uardsmen here in the kenosha, wisconsin area are on stand by. the sheriff's department telling us they do not expect any major issues. they are keeping a close eye on everything here including social media. now, that decision from the judge will have to come at some point today as these jurors decide if kyle rittenhouse is innocent or guilty in kenosha, wisconsin. judge's final ruling on which lesser charges the jury will be able to consider in the trial of kyle rittenhouse. the judge says he will allow the jury to consider one lesser charges and denied one of those requests important to note. legal experts tell us the trade-off could help get a conviction in the case and would also ensure that rittenhouse would not receive a life sentence the i will any teen shot three people, killing two during the unrest following the police shooting of jacob blake. today names will be drawn to decide which 12 jurors will deliberate and which 8 will go home and be dismissed. rittenhouse's mom tells

the national guard is on the scene in kenosha, wisconsin as the nation braces for possible unrest following the verdict of the kyle rittenhouse trial. carley: there is this. >> republicans are heading in the right direction. the democrats are full speed ahead against the ideas of what the american people want. carley: a new poll spelling mored bad news for democrats, as the majority of respondents say they would vote republican if the midterms were held today. todd: joe biden and xi jinping will meet virtually today. will our president finally ask the tough questions and will he take any himself from the press. carley: you are watching "fox & friends first" on this monday morning. i'm carley shimkus. todd: i'm todd piro. glad to have you back. we begin with the white house. the t president is set to sign the $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill into law today. carley: it comes amid plummeting approval numbers and the spending bill remains in peril over fears it will drive inflation higher. lauren blanchard joins us from washington with the latest. >> reporter: good morning, todd and carley. pr

. >>> also tonight, 500 wisconsin national guard troops are now on standby ahead of a verdict in the kyle rittenhouse case. >>> and britney spears finally has her freedom. a judge just term nailed the conservatorship she's lived until for 13 years. stand by for the details on this life-changing moment for the pop star. >>> we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >>> let's getting right to the breaking news, what it means for the january 6th investigation. paula reed is joining us. this is a major, major win for the january 6th commit aye. >> this is a critical development for the committee. up to this point they have not secured meaningful cooperation from any of the trump associates they subpoenaed. i'm told several of the witnesses who have been stonewalling have been watching to see if there was any consequences for bannon's indictment. without this indictment, the investigation would have been essentially been crippled. each of the two counts carries a mini

that's why he has ordered mandatory vaccine for the total force, and that includes our national guard to who answers to who in emergencies when can nationalize the national guard. let's see what the responds is and how much the oklahoma national guard fights back you brought every kyrie irving, the nba might actually be a window into the future of the military into the future of corporate businesses. issued mandate for players if you had the j and j vaccine, a week or two ago. if you had the j and j vaccine immediately you need a booster. this week they said if you had the other vaccine you need to now modify forward with the booster to be considered fully vaccinated. the point of getting at here this is a standoff today. wait until the next one which fully vaccinated might mean as you chase this with boosters. to stay employed, to stay in the military, to stay part of society. rachel: also, just to push back on what general austin says he believes -- there are plenty of military experts. we had some of them on our show who have said actually, it is a national security risk to have ev

they have 500 national guard troops on the ground. progressive wing of the democrat party they had vile reactions. i want to read some. one said it's white supremacy in action. a congresswoman said racism and white supremacy are the bed rock of our legal system. these were all white people involved. congressman, what is that? what are they doing? why do they seem to hate america as much as they hate america. >> in america we are a country of law. kyle rittenhouse was tried in a court of law. the democrats don't care about facts. they are turning on msnbc where facts don't matter. people would be well served to watch programs like yours and fox news where facts matter. they would not be shocked by the jurors outcome. >> laura: what do you think it will do over the next year or two given how awful last summer was and given some of the comments that we are still seeing from democrats today. >> voters will have to hold liberal democrats accountable. it's the anti-police rhetoric that led to this situation. kenosha is safe tonight. we than

the pentagon is at loggerheads with the oklahoma national guard. over mandatory vaccines are threatening disciplinary action if god's when skip their cobra injections. that's after the commander openly flouted the order. it is a lawful order for national guardsmen to receive the cove. it vaccine. it is a lawful order refusing to do that. absent of an approved exemption, puts them in the same potential as active duty members who refused the vaccine. in mid september, u. s. defend circuitry, lloyd austin, announced all uniformed personnel would have to get vaccinated against covert. however, the newly appointed commander of oklahoma's national guard said he would turned a blind eye to noncompliance among his troops. i hear by order that no oklahoma guardsmen be required to take the cove at 19 vaccine. notwithstanding any other federal requirement. additionally, no negative administration or legal action will be taken against guardsman, who refused the vaccine. spy cohen, who was a libertarian vice presidential candidate in 2020, says the measures only

. >> the pentagon has authorized up to 25,000 national guard to be on guard in washington for thetion's capital than in afghanistan, iraq, and syria combined. >> reporter: today there is a foreboding feeling in the air in washington, d.c. >> this is something that i have seen overseas in conflict zones. these federal buildings that are fenced in with razor wire on top. it's surreal to see the perimeter of the united states capitol this way. as someone who has been in the national guard for a very long time, did you ever think that the guard would be engaged in this kind of mission safeguarding the capitol and defending it again even americans? >> we always prepare for the worst and hope for the best. i can't say that i or anybody really saw this event happening. it is the first time i'm aware of that all 54, all 50 states, three territories, and the district of columbia, have all participated in one event. it just shows you how important an event that was for the entire nation to put that right and to get back on a healing path. >> but how did we get to this point? why did these a

he was talking to his team to begging to send the national guard.he had done his job there would be no riots in no case and no death. frankly he should be on trial. >> i think it's going to be for one of the lesser charges i foresee cookie and a misdemeanor in the nine months you will serve a lot less. >> coming up next you are paying more for gas and the white house is that means it's time to go green. stay with us. ♪ bogeys on your six, limu. they need customized car insurance from liberty mutual so they only pay for what they need. woooooooooooooo... we are not getting you a helicopter. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ kids can change minds. they can even change the world around us. packed with protein plus 21 vitamins and minerals we nourish them with carnation breakfast essentials. because today could change everything. ray loves vacations. but his diabetes never seemed to take one. everything felt like a 'no'. everything. but then ray went from no to know. with freestyle libre 2, now he knows his glucose leve

proportion of the adult population who are unvaccinated, the pentagon is at war with o'clock, miss national guard, i have a compulsory vaccines. it's threatening disciplinary action if guardsman skip that japs out there commander openly flouted the order. it is a lawful order for national guardsmen to receive the coven vaccine. it is a lawful order refusing to do that's absent of an approved exemption, puts them in the same potential as active duty members who refused the vaccine. in mid september, us defense secretary lloyd austin, announced all uniformed personnel would have to get vaccinated. however, the newly appointed command of oklahoma national guard said he turned a blind eye to noncompliance among his troops. i hear by order that no oklahoma guardsmen be required to take the cobra 1900 vaccine notwithstanding any other federal requirement. additionally, no negative administration or legal action will be taken against guardsmen who refused the vaccine. libertarian vice presidential candidate for 2020 spike cohen safety measures only exacerbate the rift between state and federal governmen

verdict in the trial of kyle rittenhouse, accused of killing two men and injuring a third. 500 national guard troops on standby. tonight, how residents are preparing ahead of closing arguments. >>> a major week ahead in washington on the eve of president biden signing his historic bipartisan infrastructure bill. a new abc poll tonight finds the president's popularity has plunged to a new low, being dragged down in part by surging consumer prices and growing concerns about the economy. >>> also tonight, former trump political strategist steve bannon indicted for contempt of congress in the january 6th investigation. expected to surrender tomorrow. our political team is standing by in washington. >>> severe storms striking the northeast. powerful winds and hail across several states. at least one tornado now confirmed, with more wild weather expected this week. rob marciano is standing by. >>> an 11-year-old girl the lone survivor of a horrific plane crash in michigan. tonight, her mother shares the child's chilling last memory before the deadly accident. >>> new concerns tonight about queen el

the pentagon on the oklahoma national guard are facing off over compulsory vaccines. washington is threatening discipline reaction if guardsman skipped cove at shelves, and it comes after their commander openly floated the order. it is a lawful order for national guardsmen to receive the coven vaccine. it is a lawful order refusing to do that's absent of an approved exemption, puts them in the same potential as active duty members who refused the vaccine. in september u. s. defense secretary lloyd austin, and uninstall uniform personal would have to get vaccinated against coven 90. however, the newly appointed commander of oklahoma's national guard said he'd turn a blind eye to noncompliance among his troops. i hear by order that no oklahoma god's men be required to take the cove at 19 vaccine. notwithstanding any other federal requirement, additionally, no negative administration or legal action will be taken against guardsman, who refused the vaccine. spike cohen, it was a libertarian vice presidential candidate in 2020 say they measured only widen the risk between s

though, national guard says they will not enforce a mandate.dent biden is scheduled to speak with chinese communist leader she's impeding on monday night and perhaps a coronavirus in inflation and trade will be part of the topic. arthel: lucas tomlinson at the white house. eric: president biden acknowledged that inflation is taken on many of us. he promises to tackle the issue head-on. consumers are paying more for everything from groceries to gas as we have seen. and shed, since november of 1990. back in july the president said he does believe the spike in prices was only temporary. >> our economy has come running back, we see price increases. some folks have raised worried that this could be assigned of persistent inflation. that is not our view. our experts believe in the data shows that most of the price increases that we have seen were expecting and expected to be temporary. eric: founder and ceo of the firm, dirty to advisors and former economic advisor to president obama. former chairman and ceo of ubs america. you just heard, this wiki

however, the newly appointed commander of oklahoma's national guard said he would turn a blind eye to noncompliance among his troops. i hear by order that no oklahoma guardsmen be required to take the cove at 19 vaccine. notwithstanding any other federal requirement. additionally, no negative administration or legal action will be taken against guardsman, who refused the vaccine. swine cohen, who was a libertarian vice presidential candidate in 2020, says the measures only widened the risk between states and the federal government. i think we're seeing the beginnings of an increasing standoff between the biden administration and state governments. whether you're talking about the governments themselves or the state national guards, or even some of the city governments. not just on this, but on quite a few things. we're seeing an increasing fighting between different levels of government, between the buy and ministration, largely on political lines, between republicans and democrats, but also on disagreements over how to move forward. when it comes to coven, it's likely to spread to ot

i am glad they are mobilizing the national guard. we need the national leaders to call for peace. peace. don't be a maxine waters. >> sean: kayleigh mcenany and scott brown, thank you. a new report shedding light on a deep division between joe biden and kamala harris and their offices with policy failures and dysfunction inside and outside of the white house. citing 3 dozen sources. "worn-out by what they see as entrenched dysfunction." west wing aides have thrown up their hands and vice-president kamala harris deciding there is not time to deal with it this. the vice-president is catering and things are going from bad to it worse. the entire biden white house is in a state of crisis. i don't know what is worse the fact that peter doocy asked the president about paying $450,000 and joe biden saying that is garbage not knowing his own administration's policy and fighting for it two days later. the article struck a nerve. jen psaki tweeted out late last night: the vice-president is a bold leader. can you be more specific? how is she doing as the border czar? the biden team may have

the national guard is on standby .ily of one of the men shot dead anthony huber released a statement, and they said of not guilty verdict sends the message that armed civilians can show up and justify shooting people. that political divide in america exists in america. it is much deeper tonight. >> you mentioned the national guard being on standby. president biden has urged people to abide by the verdict, but what does the mood seem to be? >> that's right. he said the verdict will leave many americans feeling angry, including himself. it is pretty calm at the moment. every now and then, you hear cars saying, we love the 25th amendment. the city is not leaving a lot of things to chance. this is a city that does not want a repeat of the violence. laura: the president of belarus alexander lukashenko has told the bbs he will not stop migrants from flowing through his country as they try to enter the eu. president lukashenko admitted his armed forces may be helping migrants cross the border into poland. steve rosenberg talk

why would she turn down the national guard? doesn't make any sense. there's so much about this, that doesn't make sense why there still people in jail, they didn't, they didn't do anything wrong. i mean, the way league charged with trespassing the capitals technically close because they went in without permission or i mean, even even if the cops let him in the works was to be there charged with trash. fashion. give them a ticket, let him pay their fine, little move on. why is anybody still in jail? this is crazy man. it central, you know, if you look at a lot of the people, the profile, we can a generalize a profile. a lot of these people are older, they're late boomers, a lot of them are veterans, lot of them are poor. i mean, i don't understand this disproportionate reaction to their getting them to the legal process here. i mean it's, it's been a very, very long time for what essentially is protesting, loitering, and trespassing. i mean, i mean i, i, i'm guess at a complete loss and one has to presume that a lot of these people don't have good lega