condon. >> george condon, white house correspondent for national journal. we're here in your office overlooking the potomac and the kennedy center. you also have another title. historian for the gridiron club. and let me ask you about the dinner itself. it is the most formal in washington, d.c. white tie and tails, why? >> we consider white tie and tails casual. you don't spend a saturday at home in white tie and tails. i'm kind of shocked. but with the gridiron club, it is tradition. that is what they wore at the beginning and we've stuck to it. there have certainly been conversations about changing it. president franklin roosevelt was a big lobbyist to try to get it to change. in fact his final exchange with gridiron club was a letter about a week before he died in 1945 in which he explained, i can't come to the dinner, i'll be in warm springs, georgia. but he said i notice in the invitation it was black tie. and he said hooray, you are finally changing it. they had to explain to him, that was just a -- it was a war-time thing so they weren't doing white

host: in terms of reaction from folks on the ground, here's a headline from the national journal on energy. obama's got no friends in alaska. environmentalists don't like drilling, while state officials want to see more. can you talk through the reception he's getting up there? guest: yeah, it's interesting where the white house is sort of positioned on this, both from a policy standpoint and certainly from a political standpoint. now, this is an administration that, as we mentioned earlier, has been very focused on climate change, especially during the president's second term. now, that said, the administration does not want to close off, completely close off the arctic waters to oil and natural gas drilling, in part because there's just a huge carbon bounty there. one of the two big pieces of the arctic ocean, that's ready to hold as much as 15 billion barrels of recoverable oil and big natural gas reserves as well. it's interesting what's happening. the obama administration has given the oil giant, royal dutch shell, the green light to do some exploratory drilling this summer, but at ev

" wrote a cover story for the "the national journal" about me and i was amused by this. i have never been a cover boy before and he said i was having a moment, a media moment and that makes me laugh because the media moment is like the rain we are having in california today in june that everybody notices it and it doesn't mean a thing. it's going to be over before you know it and nevertheless i take seriously these debates and i don't believe in ambush questions. i believe in preparation i want to talk a little bit about how you prepared to do this sort of thing and how you prepare to earn the praise of someone which is high praise indeed when someone says you run the best radio show in america and the two-star marion general you can start -- stand a little straighter and i talked about stan mcchrystal who said that's the best interview by long shot but i have ever been and when greg morell writes that in my book i'm happy. how do you get there and get ready for debate? first i want to think about banking booktv for being here. i'm going to my bag here and there a lot of

journalism can't survive anymore. i would disagree. i know victor would disagree. "the nation" is not "national journal. quegs we're a publication of views, not "winning the morning." i don't know if it you follow that expression inside the beltway who is going to win the morning. that is not what we try to do. but you do seek additional revenue, and the cruise was victor's brilliant, it's both something where you build a community. it's what these publishers call events. these are our events. we don't have sponsored events like "the atlantic." we're not going to aspen to mingle with the inside the beltway crowd. we're doing the community building and the cuba trips have been wonderfully powerful and informing both citizens, but also informing our coverage and making new kinds of alliances in a moment where it's -- i'll just -- anyway. >> the mojitos are very good. you have a question? >> well, i have been very impressed with the discussion, the willingness to be so open to actually talk some about controversies in the press room, having to do with covering jesse jackson, whether or not to endorse him,

. >> in terms of reaction for folks on the ground, here is the headline for the national journal on energyama has no friends in alaska. environmentalists don't like permits for off-shore drilling and they want to see more. can you talk about the reception he's getting up there? >> yeah. it's interesting where the white house is positioned on this both from a policy standpoint and certainly from a political standpoint. the administration, as we've mentioned earlier has been very focused on climate change during the president's second term. that said, the administration does not want to close off, completely close off to oil and gas drilling because there is a huge hydrocarbon bounty there and one of the two big pieces of the arctic ocean off the northern coast and that's as much as 15 billion barrels of recoverable oil and natural gas reser reserves, as well. they've given royal dutch/shell the green light to do exploratory drilling this summer, but at every turn over the last few days they've been pointing something out which was that this was a lease that was granted to shell under the bu

journalism can't survive anymore. i would disagree. i know victor would disagree. "the nation" is not "national journal. quegs we're a publication of views, not "winning the morning." i don't know if it you follow that expression inside the beltway who is going to win the morning. that is not what we try to do. but you do seek additional revenue, and the cruise was victor's brilliant, it's both something where you build a community. it's what these publishers call events. these are our events. we don't have sponsored events like "the atlantic." we're not going to aspen to mingle with the inside the beltway crowd. we're doing the community building and the cuba trips have been wonderfully powerful and informing both citizens, but also informing our coverage and making new kinds of alliances in a moment where it's -- i'll just -- anyway. >> the mojitos are very good. you have a question? >> well, i have been very impressed with the discussion, the willingness to be so open to actually talk some about controversies in the press room, having to do with covering jesse jackson, whether or not to endorse him,

joining me now is andy krohl, staff writer for "the national journal."aring you will never write about donald trump again? >> i wrote those words and wrote every single one of them. as you note, we're careful to say that's the last because here i am talking to you about donald trump -- >> you're not ruling out any talking head appearances, okay. >> clearly, i'm not. i'm here now. i think as carl bernstein said earlier on the show talking about the media and how it's covering candidates especially an aberration like donald trump and this moment he's having is an important thing to do and that was really sort of one of the big reasons why we decided to do this story. >> you focused on the media's attention toward trump in your cover story. and have you come to the conclusion that trump should not be taken seriously but now has to be taken seriously because the press has created this sort of virtuous or vicious cycle? >> yeah and it's incredible to see how this works. you know for this story, brian, i went to laredo texas. i went to the border. this was for

nation." it is a great privilege, to have the records of a journal of opinion. the strength of our democracy believe rests on the survival of opinion, and the opportunity for the expression of those opinions. to be in a position, to protect forever this material is a great privilege. we now have the opportunity to learn some of the back story, magazine, so writing its 150th anniversary. i promised victor that i would start by asking how the heck he ended up coming to "the nation." victor: thank you. edgar'scame from funeral. he played a role that is not publicly known. was thedgar when he editor-in-chief and then publisher of dial press where he -- i see in the audience marvin, he would go to -- he wouldd say put his manuscript on the desk. edgar was working on what became the book of daniel, a great novel. i knew edgar from those days. we collaborated on a number of projects, one of which we can talk about later. that "thecame evident nation" was up for sale, i spoke to hamilton, who lie at from the ramsey clark campaign. he was a fundraiser and everyone took h

host: joining us is dustin from the national journal. dustin: you introduced a letter to the government accountability office, asking them to take a look at what the government and private sector are doing and how they are helping and responding. it seems the sense of the letter is more needs to be done. is your sense the government and private sector are not responding to data breaches the way they need to effectively? rep. degette: the government and private companies they are saying they are giving protection to customers. in the opm case it was 18 months. of the problem is it may not be long enough. number two, in the case of minors it may be counterproductive. what we are saying is what could opm and these private companies be doing that would do a better job of protecting customers privacy and also of course monitoring the breaches. dustin: opm is saying -- they are asking other federal agencies to share the cost of providing services to the affected people. is that fair approach that opm allows this to happen in a way? rep. degett

emilyalso joining us is of the next america project at national journal, thank you for both joining ushere, both the house and the senate have a version of andsecondary education act the school bill, which still has to be decided on, can you give us an update on not only what this act involves but the house and senate versions and what you see as what you like and maybe not like? guest: this is like history in the making for us. we have teachers all over the country on the edge of their little seats wondering what is going to happen to no child left untested or originally called the elementary and secondary education ask. we loved it when it had a boring name. when lyndon johnson sounded in 1965 as part of the war on poverty and part of the civil rights movement, let's give fores some extra funding tutors, libraries, teacher training and technology. and then in 2002, it happened and in great part of partisan bipartisan fanfare, educators all over the country going, do you realize you are signing something that says 100% scorean children will hit that assisted it possible -- that is sta

first, let me show you the national journal headline.ouse republicans really think they can amend obamacare this fall. health care legislative package is tentatively expected to move in the coming months. inside the story by dylan scott, they report that while congressional leaders continue to debate whether to pursue near full repeal of the affordable care act through budget reconciliation and gop presidential candidates lay out obama replacement proposals, house republicans are looking at a smaller batch of changes to the health care law they think can make it to the president's desk. house ways and means health subcommittee chairman kevin brady told the national journal they could mark up health care tax legislation later this year. he floated bills to related to over the counter drugs, health savings accounts, and perhaps most ambitiously, a repeal of obamacare's unpopular cadillac tax on high-end insurance plans. it goes on to say the health care agenda will be determined in part by capitol hill's other business. law mamakers have a

. >> joining a conversation is dustin foltz of the national journal. >> guest: thank you for being with us congressmen. you were writing a letter to the government accountability office asking them to take a look at what the government and private sector are doing after data breach is how they are helping responding in helping customers. it seems as though the sense of the letters more needs to be done. are they really not responding to data breaches they need to effectively? >> guest: the government and the private companies are saying that they are giving protection to customers. i think in opm's case it was 18 months but the problem as number one it may not be long enough in number two and they case of -- it may be counterproductive. what we are saying is what could opm and these private companies be doing to do a better job of protecting customers privacy's and monitoring the breaches. >> opm is saying because the hacks on their systems are so massive they are asking other federal agencies to share the cost of providing those services to the affected people. is that a fair approach

. >> host: well, joining our conversation is dustin foltz of the national journal. >> you joined a few lawmakers earlier this week in introducing -- or writing a letter to the government accountability office asking them to take a look at what the government and the private sector are doing to, after data breaches, how they're helping and responding and helping customers. it seems as though the sense of the letter is more needs to be done. is it your sense that both the government and the private sector are really not responding to data breaches the way they need to effectively? >> guest: well, the government and the private companies they're saying that they're giving protection to customers. i think in opm's case, it was 18 months. but the problem is, number one, it may not well be long enough. and number two, in the case of minors, for example it actually may be counterproductive. what we're saying is what could opm and these private companies be doing that would really do a better job of protecting customers' privacy and also, of course monitoring the breaches. >> opm is now saying

the national journal has a great piece about his parliamentary college debate days.hristie has made a business of speaking as well. >> should they go on the offense tonight? your ownk you are at peril if you initiate and attack against trump. if it means you go on offense against governor bush or scott walker, that is another story. i think that is their job to have a moment where you seize the press's imagination. it does not have to be at the expense of someone else. you get your message out. you mentioned college debate and you were a champion college debater -- >> college debate coach. still a champion, though. you helped john mccain, mitt romney, lots of others. if you look at the republican field and take lindsey graham out of the conversation. in terms of raw skill and if you were going to pick someone to be your pupil, because they would have a dominant force, who would that be? >> marco rubio. he is very well spoken, knowledgeable on issues. it is essential to go against hillary clinton. he is extremely talented. .ery coachable people like him when he talks.

host: to follow up on that point, this is the headline from the national journal. trump preaching to shrinking white electorate creates problems for gop. mike is on the phone. good morning. caller: hello. first of all, i am an independent. i will vote for trump just because i think he has new ideas . i also feel that if biden enters the race, it will dilute the from the focus on hillary and the problems. i really don't put it past him. these people will do anything to get elected. host: your response? guest: i think there is a certain -- the people who want to see biden enter the race are not only biden supporters, but a lot of people thinking what will help the democratic party in this race and help clinton -- for him to enter the race and get her another person to debate with. i don't think biden is going to necessarily run only to help clinton, but it is certainly helping the party and adding to the race for that to be a calculation. and newter iowa hampshire, the third primary is in south carolina in february. that is where this is -- this caller is from. charl

the subject was brought up by a recent "national journal" story. all of the contenders want to change the constitution. the mere suggestion of altering america's bedrock law can make a splash in a crowded 2016 field. as long as candidates vie for , suggestions for changing the constitution may continue to materialize. this issue of if you are un-american citizen born -- are an american citizen if you are born on u.s. soil. endld trump called for an to birthright citizenship. it has not stopped other 2016 republicans for calling to an anndment -- for calling for amendment. there was an interview on "face the nation" with senator ted cruz. here is what he had to say. [video clip] should, asi think we a policy matter, end birthright citizenship. i've said so in writing. there is a second question, how does one do it? constitutional scholars differ in terms of the way it can be effectively done. some argue congress could pass a law defining what the words in the 14th amendment "subject to the jurisdiction" mean. others argue, no, it could not be done b

brad ford published the article in the national security law journal.lls for military strikes on legal scholars and media outlets that criticize american's war on what he called islamic radicals. he says that the u.s. should threaten to destroy the islamic holy site as a part of the war and even if it means destruction and casualties and civilian collateral damage. he says legal scholars critical of the war represent a treasonist column that should be attacked as combatants. the shocking and extreme as this option may seem, the descenting scholars in law schools that employ them are in theory targetable so long as attacks are proportional, distinguishing non-distinguishie to the defeat of . west point say this is his views only, not representing the school. >> brad ford not naming legal scholars or media outlets that he believes should be targeted, referring to them only of those as critical of armed conflict. >> 700 refugees were saved today trying to cross the mediterranean and they were taken to a port city. they were on two separate boats. there wer

" wrote a cover story for the "the national journal" about me and i was amused by this. i have never been a cover boy before and he said i was having a moment, a media moment and that makes me laugh because the media moment is like the rain we are having in california today in june that everybody notices it and it doesn't mean a thing. it's going to be over before you know it and nevertheless i take seriously these debates and i don't believe in ambush questions. i believe in preparation i want to talk a little bit about how you prepared to do this sort of thing and how you prepare to earn the praise of someone which is high praise indeed when someone says you run the best radio show in america and the two-star marion general you can start -- stand a little straighter and i talked about stan mcchrystal who said that's the best interview by long shot but i have ever been and when greg morell writes that in my book i'm happy. how do you get there and get ready for debate? first i want to think about banking booktv for being here. i'm going to my bag here and there a lot of

we will talk with jason plautz from the national journal about that.hen we will speak with mark lagon, president of the human rights group freedom house about human trafficking. those conversations coming up after this break. ♪ >> sunday night on cue and day. former emergency manager of aboutt kevin orr talks detroit's financial issues and his job overseeing the largest been visible bankruptcy in u.s. history. if detroit had taken that $1.5 billion when the stock market went down and if it had just invested in an index fund, the stock market is now trading at almost three times what it was. it not only would have tripled their money, they could have paid the pensions in full and then gotten back in the business of declaring what is called the 13th check. so it could have fixed itself if there had been some sort of sober management going forward, just like any organization. if you have strong leadership and focused leadership, you can resolve these problems. it takes a lot of effort. >> sunday night on c-span's q&a. >> washington journal continues. jaso

the national journal featured an article titled trump is a buffoon, his backers are not.mp supporters are coming from, but he says, here's the rub, is trump really something better? is he the best you can do? wouldn't you prefer a more credible vessel for change? can you address that. >> what makes him uncredible? that's what i don't understand. he's a very credible person. he has made -- >> hey tara -- >> she has dealt all kinds -- he has dealt multiple companies. guys, he is credible. the fact is he is not politically correct. hold on, let me finish my thought, jamal. at the end of the day, he is not going to play by every other politician's rules. mainly because he's not a politician. he is looking at it the, and he is speaking, he's speaking to all those americans who have gone for the last seven years that we did not have a voice. if we did actually voice our opinion on anything, we were too white, or we were too christian, or we were too this or we were too that, we were a bigot, we were not politically correct. and he is now giving veterans a voice. and that's a fi

let's bring in cnn senior political analyst ron brounstein, editorial director of "the national journal. "and the national political correspondent for "the washington post." it's grit to see you both. not only is he leading, he's not only leading there, he's also leading on key issues on the economy, on immigration, even on terrorism. this is, of course, without any real specifics that he's laid out. how do you explain it? >> well, look, there is a long way to go. we are dealing with mutable impressions as evidenced by fact donald trump, carly fiorina and ben carson improved in the poll following the debate. having said that this is a good poll for donald trump. it does show out more than just celebrity and name i.d. and focus. his advantage is extending to issues in the critical state of iowa. the only thing to keep in mind at this point in the race voters' impressions are very shallow. and until candidates really start engaging with each other particularly on tv it's hard to know where they stand. having said that the fact he's leading in the overall horse race and beginning to see is

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this from that national journal story all the ways 2016 candidates want to change the it constitutionanother one taking aim at the affordable care act expressing opposition to president obama's health care law. marco rubio introduced a constitutional amendment in 2013 that would invalidate the individual mandate a provision that requires most americans to purchase health insurance or pay a penalty. oth we'll talk about some of those and some of the ways that candidates are proposing e changing the constitution.ing. ann is up next, pulaski, irst 1 tennessee.ed ann, good morning. >> caller: good morning. in the first 16 years of the united states the constitution was amended 15 times.ts. when they started they realized they needed to add the bill of a reits and then added 11 and 12 very quickly. then after the civil war we added three more. then in the progressive era we added three, four more.e just so that it s is not an uncommon thing.do today we just say that it is too hard to do because they don't want to do it.is t it was put in constitution in the fifth article that the way d to

a contributing editor to the atlantic and national journal, a columnist and fellow and cnn commentator. i hope everyone is happy with that. you begin this collection of essays on obama with a favorable reading of his foreign policy. why? >> i think the president has done a decent job on foreign policy. the way to consider a president's foreign policy record is to see him as a member of a relay race. many runners past and many in the future. u.s. foreign policy has been largely constant in the broadest outlines since the late 1940s. building a strong liberal international order with democracies cooperating and nestling under a security umbrella. this lasted throughout the cold war and expanded under the george h.w. bush in the postwar years. it got off track in the george w. bush years when there was reckless adventurism and obama brought it back on track. he pulled back from some of the excesses and overzealous adventurism of the bush years and the order is still intact and ready to move forward with the next president. in the long run, taking everything into account, the obama adminis

syndicated columnist george will, ron fornier of national journal and syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. charles, thoughts on the ten and thoughts on the debate as we get closer. >> well obviously the most interesting and unexpected as of a month ago is trump in the center. but i think the more recent surprises, first of all, are kasich that he makes the top ten. he came in very late. he holds down the left wing of the gop. he's a bleeding heart conservative like jack kemp and he's there. and i think he has the kind of experience in debates, political experience going back almost 20 years, where i think he could handle himself really well. the other surprise marco rubio is in the group but relatively low down. he's slipped over the last couple of weeks. the last is dr. ben carson. you would have thought that with trump taking all the space with a nonpolitician, carson would suffer. but he's going to be two people over. he's going to be almost in the middle. and that i think is remarkable. he's sort of the hare in the race. no he's the tortoise actually. that's not hard to mix up. he's s

"wall street journal" did an editorial and "national review."said this is one of the best best alternatives to the government-dominated obamacare. over the next couple of weeks when i'm back here, we will continue to talk about big, bold solutions. it's not just enough to have phrases, you have to have solutions, you have to tell people what you are going to do and how you are going to do it. that's how we got done the reforms. we said here's our solutions and here's what we are going to follow up on. audience member: thank you for being here. as president, what are you going to do to stop union-dominated national labor relations board and roll back some of its decisions like the election rule that just passed? governor walker: we are going to talk within the next month as we did with obamacare about reforms we are going to put in place when it comes to labor issues particularly not just with the labor relations board, but also with big unions. even president roosevelt, f.d.r. and people thought this wasn't true. but f.d.r. said there is no need

prior to joining "wall street journal," he reported for the national journal and roll call. at the "wall street journal," he first covered tax legislation and then did investigative stories about congress, lobbying and the culture of washington. recently his examination about how wall street mines government for information to trade stocks helped inspire congressional legislation known as the stock act that banned members of congress and their aids from trading in stock based on inside information. in 2010 his series of stories on lawmakers traveling overseas on official government business exposed a series of abuses, prodded congress to cancel plans to spend $500 million on new luxury jets and led to reforms on how congress travel as broad. brody has received the award fon distinguished reports on congress and the best political reporter on age 33. reporter under age 33. i didn't know they had the age brackets. >> i think it is 34. >> okay. it gets older as you do. he also received the george poke award and a finalist for the gerald loeb award and along with michael is washi

syndicated columnist george will, ron fornier of national journal and syndicated columnist charles krauthammers on the ten and thoughts on the debate as we get closer. >> well obviously the most interesting and unexpected as of a month ago is trump in the center. but i think the more recent surprises, first of all, are kasich that he makes the top ten. he came in very late. he holds down the left wing of the gop. he's a bleeding heart conservative like jack kemp and he's there. and i think he has the kind of experience in debates, political experience going back almost 20 years, where i think he could handle himself really well. the other surprise marco rubio is in the group but relatively low down. he's slipped over the last couple of weeks. the last is dr. ben carson. you would have thought that with trump taking all the space with a nonpolitician, carson would suffer. but he's going to be two people over. he's going to be almost in the middle. and that i think is remarkable. he's sort of the hare in the race. no he's the tortoise actually. that's not hard to mix up. he's slow he's steady he

the president's three day trip to alaska and what's on the schedule we turn now to ben of the national journal he's a correspondent there. what's the president's schedule today, where will he be appearing? >> well, this was probably one of the most pronounced pieces of his second strong term on climate change and that will continue right up to today. today is the first part of the three day swing. he's been able to address a state department conference on the arctic. because the u.s. is the chair of a multinational initiative. the changing arctic is a region where the melting ice is creating a lot of new interests in the u.s. but really globally with russia and other arctic nations in the massive resources up there and new shipping opportunities but what the president is really going to be focusing on are some of the environmental perils of the way climate change is changing that region. how to build more resilience among communities that are in the arctic. the arctic is losing a foobl a day to erosion as sea levels rise. there's a strong focus at the meeting today. >> in terms of reaction fro

. >> and the headline for the ""national journal"" why is rick perry broke? i remember having off-the-record drinks with operatives telling me about the absolutely brutal war that was taking place behind the scenes for both talent and money between basically the cruz camp and the perry camp because they were both fishing in the same pond and right now things don't look that good for perry. >> they don't and they both need more than just a big and robust texas fund raising base. i'll go along that i think perry -- perry is the most responsive to bad finances because he didn't set himself up to live off the land. lindsey graham can live off the land. i have another category for you two guys to think of. chris, you're talking about dropping out as pawlenty did where it's official. you need another category, people who aren't candidates anymore except they don't know it. that category -- because i think it will happen soon, bobby jindal is having a hard time getting traction and chris christie who was going to come in as the truth teller loud mouth, well, he's be

when you look at the hillary enthusiasm side and look at quotes like this from the national journal ifou would have asked me would you consider working for secretary clinton i would say yes. now i don't know if i can trust hillary clinton anymore. it doesn't make me happy to say that. those numbers are echoed in her trust among the voters. she has a lot of work to do to gain that back. we looked at the orange press conference that she held, a lot of shrugging. a lot of difficult moments. that was not her finest moment. >> i was really struck by the comments. hillary clinton has given one national television interview weeks ago apparently going to be on "ellen." when she does deal with reporters as we saw on the tuesday press conference she comes off as legalistic and cautious and did not get rave reviews from the media at all digging herself deeper. by contrast trump calls in to three shows before breakfast and knows how to generate news whether making jokes, beating up on the media. a lot of people tell me we give too much air time to donald trump. i think he earns it because he knows

"national journal" how walker plans to win back donald trump supporters. are you worried? >> well, i'm not worried because the state is really in trouble. i mean, it's a fantastic place. i love the people of wisconsin but if you look at what's going, they have the $2.2 billion deficit. they were supposed to have a surplus of a billion and have 2.2 billion. there's tremendous divisions throughout the state. the roads aren't being built properly. you know, he stopped a lot of work because he doesn't want to raise taxes, so instead of raising taxes he's borrowing to t the hilt and the state is very overlevered and it's number 38 out of the states. it's ranked number 38. that's not good, so, you know, i'm honored that he wants to copy me, and he's a nice man. he was up -- i gave him campaign contributions when he was running for governor. i like him very much, but his state has not performed well. we need somebody that's going to make it perform well. this country perform well, and i'm the one to do it. i will do a great job, and people are seeing that, and it's being reflecte

trump's leading the national poll averages securing a seat thursday in cleveland with the new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll with telemundo. factor in the 6-point margin of error and still neck to neck with both scott walker and jeb bush. and in the past month support of jeb bush has been slashed by a third and across the political aisle, the big news well it is about joe biden. will he or he won't he enter the race? nbc news can confirm that the vp has not closed the door on a potential presidential run. those reports this weekend, well they ignited a ton of twitter traffic and renewed interest in the old draft biden super pac. mark murray has the details. mark, let's start on the republican side of this new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll his support is up and the claim to win the latino vote, they don't hold up. 75% with a negative view of donald trump. that's staggering. put it in context for the non-political junkies throughout. >> they're terrible for the a republican party that wants to do well with the latino vote. donald trump says he would win the latino vote as a nominee. citing a poll

joining me now are michelle cottle from national journal and amy holmes, host of hot list on the blaze.com. thank you both for being here. >> thanks, rev. >> a pleasure, thank you. >> amy, trump says he's enjoying this. do his gop rivals feel the same way? >> i think there's a pretty simple answer to that, and that is no. of course not. but donald trump should be enjoying himself. he is riding high in the polls. he gets to go to these crowds chanting his name, cheering him on. what's not to love? particularly for a man who loves attention and here we are giving it to him. he's the jesse ventura of politics, and he's having a great time wrestling with his gop rivals. >> michelle, trump is at 22% in iowa. now, is this bubble going to burst? >> of course this bubble is going to burst at some point. i mean, right now, the only people paying attention to politics are the people who are really fired up about something. and donald trump is running a campaign entirely aimed at the gut. he wants people to be angry just like he's angry. they're responding to his demagogue demagoguery, but at some po

foolish statements or bluster, jonathon alter, james traub, lauren fox, correspondent for "the national journal that is fun reading the trump response against him. listen, of all of the things that i have in that teleprompter a trump response to someone who attacked him and response back to that is about as good as it gets. >> i love the trump response. no sub stance whatsoever. the attack ad hits him on his previous policies an the response says this guy's a loser. >> well, trump has often said if you hit me i will hit you back 100 times harder. if you look at his record, he doesn't usually initiate hostilities. what he does is go personal at 100 miles an hour immediately. to talk about substance would be to get in the way of the personal insults. this is insult humor with high entertainment value. he's very skilled at it. this is something we're only learning in the last few weeks. he's been doing this for 35 years in the new york media world, which is the big leagues. so he knows how to play these games in public. if you tangle with him, you are probably going to lose. >> james traub, his ac

he previously admitted national journal, congress daily and before that he wrote for great wire. thank you so much. >> thank you, linda. appreciate you having me. it's an honor to be here. i think these panels can be very helpful in trying to sort through what really is a truly unique event. it sort of combines all of the elements as bill was saying earlier of an inoculation from the state of the union address and almost like a rock concert. the logistics on this are sort of a marvel to behold. but in our next panel will talk more about the logistics. right now we want to delve down and zero in on some of the big issues in a particularly issues the pope has made a part of his portfolio. they happen to be three of the most contentious most debated, stickiest issues that capitol hill and the country has dealt with in the last several decades. they are certainly at the core right now. demetrius let's start with you. you are truly one of the world's foremost experts on immigration and have been there watching that capitol hill has struggled with this issue over the course of the last

ron fournier who writes for the "national journal" wrote this.is the headline, i know ron maybe didn't write the headline but it headlined his article. read, trump voters is this really what you want, celebrity billionaire treating your party like a trophy wife as long as it suits him? widely disparate coverage of this one guy at this same event. ellen? >> well you know, as i looked around the room last night i saw all kind of people, people i've known for many years, from right, left and in between, from local papers and not. i think there actually was a very disparate group of journalists in there last night. >> look, i think that the opinion people who follow politics most closely as opposed to "new york times" which pretends it is fair around balanced and gives you a headline and a story which, i think exaggerating what is likely to happen to donald trump in the months ahead, i look at nate silver, who covered it and said, donald trump has a 2% chance of getting the presidential nomination. i think that is the bottom line. that became very cl

after that, national journal reporter jason plautz looks at new rules that would limit our plant carbon emission. next, a state department report rates countries on the world to combat human trafficking. "washington journal" is live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. tomorrow, a hearing on federal prison oversight. we will hear from officials in the justice department. the hearing is live at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. then remarks from the chancellor of the university of north carolina at chapel hill. she will speak about college affordability at the national press club and you can see those at 1:00 p.m. eastern. after that, the berkman's institution holds a discussion on the future of afghanistan. we will hear from general john campbell, commander of operation resolute on what the security situation could look in the future. that star live at 3:30 p.m. eastern also on c-span. sunday night on "q&a," the former emergency manager of the trade talks about issues and his job of overseeing the largest municipal bankruptcy in u.s. history. >> droid had $1.5 million that of our in thousand fiv

and ron fournier is the senior political correspondent for national journal. ron, i cut you off with a hard stop. >> because i was going to challenge the premise of your question. >> dickerson: yes. but never do that. so -- >> hillary clinton negative ratings are a factor in the race. and they are going to make it harder for her to win the presidency and make it impossible for her to be a transformational leader if she wins. she has to fix the ratings. let's talk about trump. >> trump linked to her. he needs to go against type. if hillary clinton had are run as a transparent campaign she would be in a far different position now because it would blow people's mind it would be against the typecast of her running in the race. instead she played the type. what if donald trump plays a campaign like he did on the phone call, if he is serious and not bombastic he doesn't need to be that serious it would blow people's find and he needs to play against type. >> one thing is striking against the interview you conducted is that when donald trump is asked about his taxes,

host: i just want to go back to this national journal piece. donald trump is appealing to older, noncollege whites. there are now no longer enough of those votes to guarantee a republican majority. what guarantees success in the primary could very well create doom and gloom further of africans in the national election. guest: yes. trump is appealing to the very base of the republican party. i think it is instructive to look at what he is saying and what jeb is saying. jeb bush, whether or not you believe he is the best messenger here, is trying to preach some and compassion on issues like immigration and order to appeal to general election voters and win in november. host: you can read more on bl oombergpolitics.com. thanks for being with us. by the way, john kasich will be in new hampshire this week. you can check out all that we have covered so far on our website, c-span.org. when we come back, two different perspectives on the issue of climate change and global warming and clean energy. this as the president prepares to travel to alaska to f