by "the national lampoon" which was the magazine in audio form. bigger fame, people like bill murray. a lot of the "saturday night live" people started out as national lampoon people. >> let's do 20 face laps. >> gilda and john did this show in this sort of weird space under the time life building. >> they're the cast of the new "national lampoon" show which opens this friday at the new palladium cabaret. >> and then lorne michaels came in and poped all these people. >> gilda radner, john bellucci and -- >> lorraine new man. >> lorne michaels pitched it as a cross between "monty python" and "60 minutes." he said, it's going to work. >> for outstanding comedy, variety or music series, nbc's saturday night". >> i'd like to thank the city of new york for the correct combination of rejection and "s. >> i'd like to thank the city of new york for the correct combination of rejection and alienation which keeps the comedy spirit alive. >> when something really revolutionary happens, when you first see it, it should look wrong. "saturday night live" when y

real-life "national lampoon's"ghoneymoon. [ laughter ] i'm not exaggerating.my -- what? >> uh, yeah. uh-huh. >> jimmy: in an rv? >> in an rv that i got my husband for his birt so, here's what happened. i made -- i made a boo-boo. i, for his birthday was like, "you know what? we love rv-ing. i'm gonna get him, likift card to" -- you know those rvs that you see that have, like, a dog on the ? side of th like, they're like, "rv america." i'm not plugging anything. but you know what i'm talking about, right?>> immy: yeah. exactly, yeah. >> okay. not the most luxury of rvs, but fine. and i was like, "clearly, this is a great birthday gift." gave it to him for his birthday. not thinking that my husband ioh going to go,that's our honeymoon." [ laughter ] and i was like, "wait, no! no, no." >> jimmy: you're like, "no. i was thinking about you. i'"not thinking about not u >> that was, like, two days -- yes, this not a honeymoon. >> jimmy: that's your gift. >> and he was like, "honeymoon." and i was like, "oh, boy." so, we're in our, like, little tin can on wheels and m

especially someone articulate and popular and have a sense of humor and has the audacity to lampoon them in the national wanted to shut him down. they fund these organizations dedicated to destroying him and making things up about him. >> sean: they spent millions. >> now the same kinds of outlets have gone after you. >> sean: millions of dollars. >> they make things up, they exaggerate, they take things out of context and he has hads to single-handedly fight back these people as he has paved the way for thousands, literallyav thousands of other people whosa have been generated from his example. you are one of them, as you have said, and he has shown the way, but in the beginning it was lonely. he was out there and he was on talk radio and no one was there to defend him, no one was there to fund his defense of himself, but he has truly inspired so many people to speak up and to get in his medium and it's really been a wonderful thing. >> sean: interesting side note. thank you for joining us. when he started in '88, there were, like, 200 talk radio stations in the country. now there are thousands and it'