a law on a national memorial cemetery or cemetery, where we are currently burying our soldiers in the 20th year, is taking so long a bill was passed to create this national memorial militaryhy is this decision so hard to make and take so long? therefore, i will start with the background, so that nothing falls out, because it is important for the logic of understanding. the cemetery project arose, the very first project arose from the time of almost yanukovych, some generals gathered, almost the ministry of internal affairs, at least look at the year 2011, i remember, it was azarov, maybe. because somewhere in russia they built a military , and these old, well-deserved, well-deserved veterans , including soviet ones, wanted these systems to also have a good place for myself, but this project did not take off, thank god, but then the government issued an order in the 15th or 16th, i already forgot, and in particular the institute of national memory , to develop the institute of national memory at the end even then in the 16th in the 17th or 17th, i developed this project, there were consultations about the project of the military memorial cemetery and the logic that, with w

law on a national memorial tsvin has been going on for so long. or the cemetery where we now bury our soldiers. in the 22nd year, a bill was passed on the creation of this national memorial military cemetery. why is it so difficult to make this decision and it takes so long? so, i'll start with background so that nothing falls out, because it is important for the logic of understanding. the project of the cemetery arose, the very first project, arose from the times of yanukovych, some gathered. the generals are almost incompetent, if you want to see the year 2011, i remember, it is azarov , maybe because somewhere in russia they built the military and these old well-deserved, well-deserved veterans, including the soviet ones. system, they wanted to have a good place for themselves as well, but the project did not take off, thank god, but then the government issued an order, or in the 15th or 16th, i already i also forgot that the institute of national remembrance developed the project, the institute of national remembrance developed this project back then in the 16th or 17th, there were consultations, the project of the military memorial cemetery and, in general, this logic that

the national memorial cemetery or cemetery, where we are currently burying our soldiers, is taking so long. in the 22nd. in the same year , the bill on the creation of this national memorial militaryetery was passed, why is this decision so hard to make and is it taking so long? so, i will start with the background, so that nothing falls out, because it is important for the logic of understanding. the project of the cemetery was born, the very first project arose from some time, almost yanukovych, some generals gathered, almost the ministry of internal affairs, if you want to see the year 2011, i remember this azarov, maybe because there... somewhere in russia they built a military, and these old well-deserved, well-deserved veterans in that including the soviet systems, they wanted to have a good place for themselves, but the project did not take off, thank god, but then the government gave an order in the 15th or 16th, i have already forgotten, and in particular, the institute of national memory to develop the end, the institute of national memory developed this project back then at 16, there were consultations, the project of the military memorial cemetery and , in general, thi

national memorial. is it a cemetery? the cemetery where we now bury our soldiers. in the 22nd year, a bill was passed on the creation of this national memorial military cemetery. is it so difficult, this decision is made and takes a long time? so, i will start with the background so that nothing is left out, because it is important for the logic of understanding. the project of the cemetery arose, the very first project arose from the time of yanukovych, some... almost old generals gathered, i want to see the year 2011, i remember it by azarov, maybe because somewhere in russia they built of the military, and these old , well-deserved, well-deserved veterans , including soviet ones, of these systems also wanted to have a good place for themselves, but the project did not take off, thank god, but then the government issued an order in the 15th or 16th forgot to develop the institute of national memory in particular, the institute of national memory back then... in the 16th or 17th i developed this project, there were consultations, the project of the military memorial cemetery and in general the same logic with which i started , this is three-phase, it arose in

the adoption of a law on a national memorial cemetery or cemetery where we are buried. now , in the 22nd year, the draft law on the creation of this national memorial militaryed, why is it so difficult to make this decision and it takes so long? so, i will start with the background, so that nothing falls out, because it is important for the logic of understanding. the project of the cemetery arose, the very first project arose from the times of yanukovych, some generals gathered, almost not the ministry of internal affairs, at least i saw. the 11th year, i remember , it was azarov, maybe because somewhere in russia they built a military, and these old, well-deserved, well-deserved, veterans, including those of the soviet systems, wanted to have a good place for themselves, but... this the project did not take off, thank god, but then the government issued an order in the 15th or 16th, i have already forgotten, and in particular the institute of national memory to develop the end, the institute of national memory even then in the 16th or in the 17th he developed this project, there were consultations, the project of the military memorial cemeteries and, in g

and 16th years, that is, there is a sector of military burials in all cemeteries. this is the first level, the second level - the national military memorial cemetery, a large space near kyiv, which we will talk about further, and the third level - the national pantheon, a certain symbolic point in the center, that is, such a logic, such an architecture of this system of memory, it was proposed by the institute, in principle it seems quite logical to me, of course it is somewhat classical, it is more classic, but given that we don't have that kind of infrastructure, it's very good, all kinds of innovative things, because now... we actually have to build what you're talking about, and it's classic for the nation, but in general, the world trends that we we are entering a new culture of memories, so we need to complete this gestalt of the old, classical one and further not hinder the creation of new memorials, for example, the cross of heroes memorial was recently opened, it was actually practiced in vyshgorod in the gcc, this is an example of such a modern memorial, and i already said about slavy park, which... is located in the center of t

in the 15th-16th years, that is, in all cemeteries there is a sector of military burials, this is the first level, the second level, the national military memorial near kyiv, which we will talk about further, and the third level - the national pantheon, a certain symbolic point in the center, i.e. such a logic, such an architecture of this memory system, it was proposed by the institute, in principle it seems quite logical to me, of course it is somewhat classicistic.

that is, in all cemeteries there is a sector of military burials, this is the first level, the second level is the national military memorial then near kyiv there is a large space, about which we will talk about further, and the third level is the national pantheon, a certain symbolic point in the center, i.e. this is the logic, this is the architecture of this system of memory, it was proposed by the institute, it seems quite logical to me in principle, it is of course somewhat classicistic, it this is more classical, but given that we do not have such an infrastructure. so it's very good all kinds of innovative things because now we actually have to build what you're talking about and it's a classic for the nation but in general the world trends that we're coming into a new culture memories, that's how we need to... complete this gestalt of the old, classical one and continue not to hinder the creation of new memorials, for example, the cross of heroes memorial was recently opened, in the gcc it was actually practiced in vyshgorod, this is an example of such a modern memorial, and i have already said about glory park , wh

this is a very important thing, it's like you're building a great national memorial a cemetery that should record the traditions of a militaryrial and burial and you forget the cossack crap, well, it's just not accepted. we literally have 30 seconds left, so you said that the work has already started and when will we have this space completed? well , the ministry of veterans gave the best answer about this, because it is theirs, they have a state institution that deals with this, as far as i know, the work has started, there are already visits there, research on the territory, geology, and a draft project are already there. and there i am currently working on the documentation and they are preparing, as far as i know, the site for construction works, but it is better to ask the ministry of vet, it is them. anton, thank you for the conversation, anton drobovich, it was a conversation about how to remember, we honor the memory of heroes, glory to ukraine and glory to our heroes, there are discounts on lisobact - 10% in pharmacies for travelers and savings. there are discounts on parafast - 10% in podorozhnyk pam and oskad phar

the memorial tradition, which is more than 500 years old, well, this is a very important thing, it is like creating a large national memorial cemetery, which should record the traditions, militaryry and memorial and funeral and you forget the cossack crap, well, this is simply unacceptable. we literally have 30 seconds left, so you said that the work has already started and when we will have this space completed, well, the best answer would be the ministry of veterans, because it is them, they have a state institution that deals with this, as far as i know that the work has started, there are already visits there, research on the territory, geology has been carried out there, there is already a sketch project, and i am currently working on the documentation there and preparing to what extent. and i know that the site is being prepared for construction work, but it is better to ask the minvet, it is them. anton, thank you for the conversation, anton drubovich, it was a conversation about how to remember, honor the memory of heroes, glory to ukraine and glory to our heroes. hello, this is svoboda ranok, an informational project of radio svoboda. top guests every day. this is the