under the new system, offenders will be monitored by the national probation service in 11 regions.ry sectors will provide unpaid work and drug misuse programmes for offenders but there will be no payment by results, a key element of chris grayling's approach. one aspect which hasn't worked is that when it comes to offender management, payment by results has not worked. complex reasons why that's the case, some of this is to do with the fact the caseloads have been different from what was anticipated. david gauke says the new system of supervising offenders will increase public safety. it will be introduced in wales this year and across england in 2021 but the current providers have been told it could ta ke providers have been told it could take four years until the service improves. they are concerned the new setup will become fragmented with offenders more likely to slip through the probation net. and danny is with me now. briefly what went wrong with the original changes brought in by chris grayling? the standard of work being done by the probation companies with offenders to sto

under the new system, all offenders will be monitored by the national probation service, based in 11ors 11 regions. the private and voluntary sectors will provide unpaid work and drug misuse programmes for offenders. but they will be no payment by results, a key element of chris grayling's approach. it was a mistake and chris grayling has to share responsibility for that. he thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. we pleaded with him not to do it, or at least part of some of the schemes first. he flatly refused, pushed it through to satisfy his own political agenda, and he has cost the taxpayer millions and millions of pounds. hundreds of millions of pounds. david gauke, the currentjustice secretary, says the new system will increase public safety. it will be introduced in wales this year and across england in 2021. and there will be more detail on that story and all of the others in breakfast. it is at six o'clock here on bbc 0ne, it is at six o'clock here on bbc one, and it is withjon kay and sally nugent this morning. join at six o'clock. —— joined them. this is the

under the new system, all offenders will be monitored by the national probation service, based in 11ate and voluntary sectors will provide unpaid work and drug misuse programmes for offenders. but there will be no payment by results, a key element of chris grayling's approach. it was a mistake, and chris grayling has to share responsibility for that. he thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. we pleaded with him not to do it, or at least pilot some of the schemes first. he flatly refused, pushed it through to satisfy his own political agenda, and has cost the taxpayer millions and millions, hundreds of millions of pounds. david gauke, the currentjustice secretary, says the new system will increase public safety. it will be introduced in wales this year and across england in 2021. danny shaw, bbc news. thejustice secretary david gauke says, despite difficulties over the last five years, there are some positives to build on. i think there was a need to reform the probation system in 2014. there are some things that have happened that i think were very hard to anticipate,

the national probation service will take over the management of low and medium—risk cases, which wereivate providers five years ago. danny shaw has more. he promised it would transform rehabilitation for offenders. chris grayling was the architect of the biggest probation shake—up in decades, allowing private firms to supervise former prisoners, and people serving community sentences who pose a low or medium risk. but now the reforms are being scrapped. the nail in the coffin was a report from dame glenys stacey, the chief probation inspector. she said the molde —— model of part—privatisation was irredeemablely flawed. under the new system, there'll be probation areas in ii sectors. new system, there'll be probation areas in 11 sectors. it was a mistake and chris grayling has to share responsibility for that. he thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. we pleaded with him not to do it or at least pilot some of the schemes through. he flatly refused and pushed it through to satisfy his own agenda and cost the taxpayers hundred of millions of pounds. the currentjustice secr

under the new system, all offenders will be monitored by the national probation service, based in 11. the private and voluntary sectors will provide unpaid work and drug misuse programmes for offenders. but there will be no payment by results, a key element of chris grayling's approach. it was a mistake and chris grayling has to share responsibility for that. he thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. we pleaded with him not to do it, or at least pilot some of the schemes first. he flatly refused, pushed it through to satisfy his own political agenda, and has cost the taxpayer millions and millions, hundreds of millions of pounds. the new probation system will increase public safety. it will be introduced in wales this year and across england in 2021. danny shaw, bbc news. thejustice secretary, david gauke, says despite difficulties over the last five years, there are some positives to build on. i think there was a need to reform the probation system in 2014. there are some things that have happened that i think were very hard to anticipate, for example the way that the

— £280 million worth of contracts for fixed services but the private sector will not be in direct contact with the people in probation any longer. the nationalpeople. some people told them back in 2014 that this was not going to work, the privatisation, admission of failure at last. this was a disaster long foretold and they didn't think it was a good idea. the labour opposition didn't think it was good. since the election, you've had various people who replaced chris grayling and as have many have, they walk in and take over the mess. and it's astonishing it's taken this long to unpick a mistake. it's astonishing he is still there. he is free to do this again to the transport system. it's utterly bizarre and no wonder people feel disillusioned if they can't deliver. fair point. the front page of the financial times now. a former us trade official has said you can't pick your enemies, you need to pick your battles. it's interesting that he says enemy. it's not a war in that sense but a tariff wall still some sort of battle but the parties are engaged in but donald trump has dodged an immediate collision with the eu and japan on trade by defe

the best thing, in my view, is to bring offender management into one organisation, the national probation serviceork wouldn‘t be there, or there was a different worker or they wouldn‘t even be expecting me in some cases. were they able to stop you reoffending? no, not really. you‘re not treated as an individual, it‘s very scripted and they don‘t look at your problems as an individual. and do you think that lead you back into a life of crime? definitely. i got to the point where i thought what is the point of going to probation? it doesn‘t do anything for me. what would have been better for me. what would have been better for you. what should have been different? well, i was asking for rehabilitation for my drug problem andi rehabilitation for my drug problem and i was saying to my officers that i needed to go to rehab and they we re i needed to go to rehab and they were saying that they could not do that for me. they couldn‘t offer that for me. they couldn‘t offer that kind of support. a police officer got me into rehab and in contact with the timpson foundation, that sort of helped me find emplo

it reverses changes made to the national probation service, or nps, in 2014 by the then—justice secretarydavid gauke explained why he was making the u—turn. i believe that bringing responsibility for delivery of all management within the nps will remove some of the complexities that have caused challenges in the current model of delivery, and make it more likely that an offender will have continuity of supervision throughout their sentence, while strengthening processes for managing risk. alongside these changes, we will develop a more clearly defined role for the private and voluntary sector in delivering core intervention to offenders, and securing innovation in the provision of these services. the national audit office said problems with part privatisation had cost taxpayers nearly £500 million. labour backbenchers were scathing about the cost and the former justice secretary, chris grayling. the announcement that he's made today covers up one of the most catastrophic pieces of public policy and wastes of public money that we've seen in many a long year. it has let down communities who

under the new system, offenders will be monitored by the national probation service in 11 regions.be no payment by results, a key element of chris grayling's approach. one aspect that hasn't worked, and i accept that, is that when it comes to offender management, payment by results has not worked. complex reasons why that's the case, some of this is to do with the fact the caseloads have been very different from what was anticipated. mr gauke says the new system of supervising offenders will increase public safety. it will be introduced in wales this year and across england in 2021 but the current private providers have been told it could take four years until the service improves. they are concerned the new setup will become fragmented with offenders more likely to slip through the probation net. with me now is alice dawnay, founder of the switchback charity, which helps to rehabilitate offenders and michael, a former offender who says he turned to the charity when the probation service let him down. michael, first of all tell us your experience as a former offender, being dealt w

under the new system, offenders will be monitored by the national probation service in 11 regions.misuse programmes for offenders but there will be no payment by results, a key element of chris grayling's approach. one aspect that hasn't worked, and i accept that, is that when it comes to offender management, payment by results has not worked. complex reasons why that's the case, some of this is to do with the fact the caseloads have been very different from what was anticipated. mr gauke says the new system of supervising offenders will increase public safety. it will be introduced in wales this year and across england in 2021 but the current private providers have been told it could take four years until the service improves. they are concerned the new setup will become fragmented with offenders more likely to slip through the probation net. i'm joined now by cat hobbs, the director of public ownership campaign group we own it, which is part of a coalition of organisations that fought for the probation services to be brought back under public control. obviously you will welcome t

probation to be re-nationalized, not unexpected. no, not unexpected at all. he became justice secretary after ten clark returned to the back benches. he introduced a very controversial programme to privatise probation servicesly, it has not worked. no one really disputes that i'iow worked. no one really disputes that now and his successors are but three, doing a lot of sensible things shorter sentences, really got to grips with this department and is i'iow to grips with this department and is now going to unpick his reform. the slight oddity is that it is one thing for someone who who is having their reforms and picked is another to have someone who is now officially a government policy that this is not chris grayling as minister of justice, this is not chris grayling as minister ofjustice, they were not fit for purpose. it does not quite do itjustice in the quite catastrophic, worth a? they need to be unpick to get apparently, it is 0k be unpick to get apparently, it is ok forthem to be unpick to get apparently, it is ok for them to be secretary of state for transport. is partly because theresa may is so weak and it was surprising that she was even able to fire gavin williamson, but it is truly remarkable

national security threat tomorrow. frank gardner, bbc news in central london. the supervision of all offenders on probation in england and wales is being brought back under public control. the probation service2014, by the then justice secretary chris grayling. but the change is said to have cost taxpayers £500 million, and led to a service described as "irredeemably flawed". here's our home editor, mark easton. like the supposedly reformed prisoner who ends up back injail, the government has performed a humiliating u—turn in its probation policy for england and wales. parts of the service privatised just six years ago are to be renationalised. when it comes to offender management, i recognise that the system isn't working as we wanted it to work. payment by results has not worked. in hertfordshire today, ex—offenders were hard at work as part of their probation programme, but service providers say they've seen the human cost of introducing payment by results into the complicated business of helping people turn their lives around. changing people's behaviour is a complex task, and so, payment results was never likely to work, and it was predictable. and you told them? i think it would be fai

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