let's discuss this with sylvain chabe—ferret, research fellow at the national institute for research on agricultureo you. so, we're getting new promises for uk farmers today, but as we've just outlined, farmers right across europe are all pushing their governments for more support and more change, aren't they? support and more change, aren't the ? , , ., , ., support and more change, aren't the? , ., they? yes, they are, you are riuht. they? yes, they are, you are right- we — they? yes, they are, you are right. we are _ they? yes, they are, you are right. we are basically - they? yes, they are, you are| right. we are basically seeing two very long run trends that are getting into conflict with two short run movements that were described. so the first long run trends is farmers, particularly in the eu, have been heavily supported by governments, for example, in france we have farmers receiving stipends of 15,000 euros on average just to be farmers, just for farming. euros on average just to be farmers, just forfarming. and farmers, just for farming. and this farmers, just forfarming. and this is put