in this particular case, the national security law appears not to have been news. it appears to be in a trial under the colonial era sedition law. what does that say about the judicial process and hong kong? i think we have a holistic perspective that the hong kong and the chinese government is now using national security as a concept. as a pretext in suppressing the civil society, as well as the right to freedom of expression in hong kong. so although in this particular case, national security law is not being used to prosecute the 5 speech therapist. and this has been a set of law that has been passed by the colonial government decades ago. it has been used for many, many years. but now they are recycling these kind of precedent laws in pressing a direct to freedom of expressions. so as you can see from the coming up from the national security has become a very central idea in prosecuting the speech therapist. because i do have inciting hatred against the chinese at home as well as in national security. we are of course, also talking about children's books here.

that en camera review is not optional and the court has to accept the claim of national security harm. but the court also has to review the materials and make its own determination as to whether the surveillance was lawful. so the evidence doesn't get removed from the case but it does get removed from the adversarial public proceedings. the government argued this provision of fisa applies only when the government wants to use evidence generally in a criminal proceeding and the nongovernment party wants to suppress it, the plaintiff pointed out nothing in 1806-f asks this and the ninth circuit sided with the plaintiffs. this faces two questions. the 1806-f question, namely, does that statutory provision apply in this category of cases and if so, does it trump the procedures that would otherwise apply to the state secrets privilege? but second, there was also the question whether the defendant -- privileged information can justify dismissal of the case under the state secrets privilege? that alternative question was foreclosed at the ninth circuit level but not at the supreme court leve

i'm going to say you do a national security of you, and in fact, you can't. it is domestic authorities to do that. >> so, the hundred documents with 100 classified documents, and was stressing today, it is any consideration by a special master. they're saying to a trump lawyers, what is your position on those documents? one of those positions is going to be, they are not classified. is it on the last day, and at some point on january, before you left office, he wave the magic wand, you're not classified, that could be one of the things you say. it is about those hundred documents, and would this be the moment in which these lawyers have anything else to say, that's right, the special master should not be handling this specialized documents. >> i agree. it is flushing out trump's position. let me just say, apologize with it and it is those late limits a little while ago, and that's why we look this way. i think that the apartments filing is one crystal clear message. either, you reverse some of the damage and a court of appeals may appeal for them. after that

national security, to advance our national security interests, and those lives may currently be at riskd not in this unstance keep that classified information contained in a safe space. there are reasons why there are requirements around all of this. there are reasons why we keep them in safe spaces. we don't just allow hem to hang out in a florida resort open in some sort of, you know, basement storage unit or worse, but in addition to the lives that may be at risk, we have billions of dollars of taxpayer-funded collection systems that may be at risk. certainly u.s. standing in the world with our allies or our ensmis at misk so interest are grave national security implications from these events. >> and they are not partisan risks. these are risks to our entire country. it's all us are invested in this together. come on, people. matt, best of luck in your vein. still ahead -- >> a girl like me, she was never supposed to be up there next to jacqueline kennedy and dolley madison. that is what this country is about. it's got blood or pedigree or wealth. it's a place where everyone should h

under the secrets the attorney general submit an affidavit but then to claim the national security the court also should review the materials to makean itown determination so the evidence is not removed but then to use evince in the criminal proceedingnd then the non- evidence that but then the ninth circuit cit hewith them. so there was two questions namely does tt statutory provision apply in this category and places and that which but second there's also the question if the privileged information can justify dismissal of the case that this is not at the supreme court level. instead itn held in - - eve if in some cases but it does not displace the state secrets privilege because but is it all and compatible so in other words neither covers the oer they just coexist that's because in the courts words that which requires them to have differe inquiries and but the clash between 18 oh six of the state secrets privilege exists because they require the courts to do different things exactly the same threshold circumstance namely information that could harm national security and those di

she's a national security conservative.ably agrees with donald trump and voted probably mostly entirely. he was trying to overturn the 2020 election and she thinks that's a deeply dangerous thing to do in a democracy. and look what happened to her. maybe trying to persuade to make them understand how important the stakes are and whatever you may think of trump and policies and his style and maybe you like them and like policies, there is this much more important issue which is we have got to preserve the institutional safeguards, the norms, the procedures for republic and democracy and to rem remind americans this stuff is fragile. there is political backsliding from around the world from hungary to poland to india to turkey and, you know, it happening because people are frustrated but the united states is the oldest constitutional democracy in the world. anand if it happens s here, the effects could be irreversible to the united states and around the world. >> fareed zakaria, everyone. we'll be back. or taste or do absolut

seeing the president two to three times, then spending time with the other principles of the national securityouncil, cabinet secretaries, secretary of defense, secretary of the treasury, secretary of state, and talking through the big decisions we need to tee up for the president to make, on everything from global food security to taiwan, to the chips act, the new law on advanced microchips in the united states. we cover the waterfront. david: so president i assume lose their temper, does president biden yell when he's not happy? or does he calmly say, this is what i think? jake: he is not a yeller. he is somebody who is disciplined and direct and holds us to a high standard. he will challenge us to make sure we have nailed down the details of everything we are presenting to him. and if we haven't, he will tell us to do better, but he does so in a totally respectful straightforward way, the same way everybody has seen him in public life. david: i worked in the white house under president carter. there were frequent disputes between the secretary of state and the national security advisor, and

and this is a judge that has no background whatsoever national security. her name and qualifications that she would be a rubber stamp for donald trump in the republican party's agenda. and if you think about the classification issue, let me just give you an example. i have the high security clearance in the u.s. government, for 8 year's. there is a cover sheet. it has a classification. every single page of the document is stamped, top secret, or secret. there is not a question as to whether these are classified. that is an absurd thing for her to be asserting. it is marked all over the documents themselves. the justice department, as part of the intelligence community, is well aware of what the classifications that this is, of these documents. and so she is basically imposing a trump defense rationale onto her own legal opinion and it has nothing at all to do with the underlying reality that there are 100 classified documents that apparently had a very significant and sensitive secrets of the u.s. intelligence community on them, that are just gonna be pass

he continues his efforts to keep the nation secure and advanced. this duty as a senior fellow at the university's kennedy school of government, west point on combating terrorism made in the madison policy forum. currently the senior counselor and global chairman of the geopolitical risk practice. we are so glad to have you.pr thank you for joining us. let's get right to it. the search and seizure has raised questions about what's at stake as many supporters have poured down on why the search and seizure operation was even necessary you have to help us better understand thene questios surrounding the document. i'm going to ask you first. how serious is it that there were many serious documents found in the unsecured location, what do you think are at stake? >> i think the short answer is it's both serious and unprecedented. a couple of overarching thoughts. a very basic rule of being a criminal defense lawyer is you avoid getting dragged into the ongoing criminal conspiracy of your client which may have happened here. the second, so often i want to

he continues his efforts to keep our nation secure and studies national security at the kennedy school of government, west point center on combat and terrorism and the madison policy forum. he is currently senior counselor and global chairman of the geopolitical global strategy. we are so happy to have you two, michael, thank you for joining us. let's get right to it. the search and seizure of mayor lago has raised questions about what is at stake as many trump supporters have poured doubt on why the search and seizure operation was even necessary. so you've got to help us better understand the questions surrounding the documents. i am going to ask you first. how serious is it that there were many sensitive documents found in an unsecured location at the presidents club? what do you take of the estate here? sen. johnson: i think the answer, the short answer is it is both very serious and unprecedented. a couple of overarching thoughts. one, a very basic rule of being a criminal defense lawyer is that you avoid getting dragged into the ongoing criminal conspiracy of your client. which m

it's been one of our main goals to refocus the intelligence committee back to national security threats posed to the nation by adversaries and this session today that you are hosting fits greatly into our ability to get information from those individuals that are experts, have expertise to take back to congress that we can translate into actual policies. i want to thank you for coordinating this and for being the lead on this. as you indicated, the topic today is of course biological threats and weapons. doctor wenstrup in addition to incredible career in the army in which he's been decorated for heroism as a result of the mass shooting that occurred and was perpetrated against the. on the intelligence committee, his expertise as a doctor on the path for being served in combat has been incredibly important. his focus and his ability to advocate for these issues as an intelligence community focus and as a threat to the nation has caused us to give more to these issues, and of course i think it is on the pandemic focused us all once again on the threats that we have here. i want t

this is stuff that is national security secrets. i think what really caused the archives to send this over to doj for investigation was not just the fact that they were classified documents, but that they were mixed in with a lot of other irrelevant documents that just show that the whole thing was one big mess. so, they were concerned as to what was happening with these documents, who was looking at them, and who had access to them. it is much more beyond-- and by the way, the papers that the trump people put in, just refer to them as sensitive documents. they try to downplay everything in this brief. don't even acknowledge that they are highly classified documents at issue with this search warrant. >> they do, everything except they were hyperventilating about expired passports in "time magazine." you are quite right with that. brandon, it is good to have you back here, especially because you specialize in the mishandling of classified documents. the trump team is outraged over the photo we will put up now, the photo included in t

he continues his efforts to keep our nation secure in advance the study of national security is a senior fellow at harvard university's kennedy school of government west point center and madison policy form. still currently counselor global chairman of the geopolitical practice at beacon global strategy. we are so happy to have a pre-thank you so much for joining us. let's get right to it. the search and seizure at mar-a-lago has raised questions about what is at stake. or doubt why the search and seizure operation was even necessary if god help us better understand the questions surrounding the documents. i'm going to ask you first serious is that there are many very sensitive documents found in an unsecured location at the president's home and club? what are they? what do you think are the stakes here? books first, thanks for doing this. the short answer is it is both a very serious and unprecedented. a couple of overarching thoughts. one, very basic rule being a criminal defense lawyer is that you avoid getting dragged into the ongoing criminal conspiracy of the clients. which may hav

and what did you make of her posture as it relates to national security? >> i mean i think it is totally reckless, a little bit insane, alex, and we see these filings, they have the s look of legal documents that beestows a legitimacy on them. but this makes no sense and this is a m judge that has no background whatsoever in national security. her main qualification is that she would beur a rubber stamp f donald trump and the republican party's agenda. and if you think about the classification issue, just for one example, i had the high security clearance in the u.s. government for eight years, there is a cover sheet that has the classification on it, every single page offi the document i stamped top secret or secret. therest is not a question as to whether these are classified. that's an absurd thing to be asserting. it is markedhi all over the documents themselves. and the justice department, as part of the intelligence th community, is well aware of what the classification status is of thesee documents, and so she's basically imposing like a trump defen

and that would be my principle concern, and i'm sure a concern of most national security officials. >orters and friends, ashley parker is here. she's the senior national political correspondent for "the washington post," also an msnbc political analyst. harry litman is back, former u.s. attorney and former deputy assistant attorney general, now the host of the talking fed podcast, and former cia director john brennan joins us. he's now an msnbc senior national security analyst. director brennan, i start with you. the portrait of what trump took and refused to turn over before this became a law enforcement matter and then defied a grand jury subpoena to keep is growing more alarming, and i wonder your take and your analysis of what we're learning from "the washington post" that another country's nuclear program secrets were included in the documents he kept. >> well, nicolle, the amount of information and documents that have been found at mar-a-lago and the nature of the sensitive programs that are contained in those documents really is very unnerving from the standpoint of what this c

committee and has done an excellent job since assuming this role in highlighting the slew of national security issues that confront us as a nation advocating for a strong and aggressive military and intelligence posture to protect our future. he has served since 2002 including stents leading the armed services tactical air and land forces as well as strategic forces subcommittee while serving on the intelligence committee. we sought to move these conversations with the american public beyond scif and we welcome him. he will be joined by his colleague from mississippi congressman trent kelly who serves on the house intelligence armed services committee. congressman kelly has spent 36 years in the army national guard as a combat engineer where he's currently serving. he's a consistent voice for our men and women in uniform and those serving in the shadows within our intelligence community gentlemen, welcome to heritage . for those of you here live in the auditorium please join me in welcoming them. [applause] >>. >> thank you doctor roberts and thank you for having us here at heritage and i want

national security. that is the urgency of the current situation. >> when i think back to the alarm that was felt by every single sort of -- anyone that had ever touched any part of u.s. national security, either military or fbi or doj or cia and talking about these lags, this inability to perceive that the criminal case, which is inextricably linked in the national security implications for the country, i wonder your reaction to today's development and not that they're dueling, but these two judges that are now the prominent figures in the matter, judge dearie and judge cannon. >> yes, nicole, i think what we're seeing is just the importance of a judge who not only understands the law, but is willing to apply it. you mean, you can only imagine that in the post-election cases, if judges had been willing to entertain unfounded assertions of voter fraud. i mean, we would have gone the crazy rabbit holes that we saw judge cannon go down. and here, we have national security issues at stake and i think one of

this is already at what level are we today in preparing a new edition of the concept of national security, while i would ask before, than we consider it to the security council, so that it is absolutely frank, there is no need to hide anything. uh, well, based on some political motives or even economic and so on. we must be honest. uh, those threat risks that exist and our reaction to them, so that both neighbors and others know how we will react, so that they tell me that for someone it was a surprise. at the meeting, they also discussed the situation on the southern border, there was an instruction to the security council of the ministry of defense and all law enforcement agencies to assess taking into account experience gained since the start of the military special operation in ukraine, this is the direction in which we must remain vigilant plans to turn belarus into a kind of semblance. the current ukraine is not hidden, but i am destined to come true. and i get more information that those fugitives and their relatives are here. eh, lie down, quietly, lie down. today, businesses are

the verkhovna rada supported the resolution on the creation of the national security service of ukrainend within six months passed the law on the security service of ukraine. unfortunately, at first everything was limited to changing the sign for decades the service was staffed by old soviet cadres, some of whom were most likely agents of russia, and its leaders were appointed by people far from counterintelligence activities. crises became especially noticeable after the beginning of the russian full-scale invasion on february 24. head of the sbu ivan bakanov, a childhood friend of the president and an ex-producer of quarter 95, did not appear in public for more than a month, according to a number of media outlets. he fled from kyiv. zelensky released him only five months after the beginning of the war , the day before the invasion on february 23, bakanov's first deputy, andriy naumov, left ukraine; before that, according to the media, he was able, according to the media, to pass on information to the kremlin 's special services. what allowed the invaders to seize the chernobyl nuclear

david: talk for a moment about what it is like to be the national security advisor.he office was set up, i think, in the eisenhower administration. president truman had an advisor as well. your job is to get an early -- get in early every day and make sure there is no crisis, and if there is, tell the president. are you briefing the president early in the morning as many have done before? jake: yes, we have the president's daily brief in the oval office. it is myself, my two deputies, and then the director of national intelligence, who are there every day. we also bring in other cabinet members, depending on what the subjects are being briefed, so he gets -- the president gets exposure to his full national security team over the course of the week. we talk to him about things that have developed overnight around the world, and also longer-term trends that he expresses interest in and wants to stay on top of. so it is a mix of the immediate and long-term, and it gives him a full picture of the challenges and opportunities in the world for america. david: during a typi

and maybe the national security of our allies has been compromised. >> i would imagine that these documents will figure prominently into avril haines, the office of director of national intelligence, is conducting a parallel review to see if our national security was compromised in this document breach, if you will. how would she go about thinking about these nuclear documents being held down at mar-a-lago in a storage facility that is calling the storage facility is probably being generous. >> well, sure, they are agassed to found to be located at mar-a-lago. they are conducting this risk assessment right now, trying to determine what of our sources and method collection systems might be at risk. so if this is a document about a foreign country's nuclear capabilities, how did we access that information? how was it that we became familiar in knowing what either adversary or ally has in the nuclear realm? and so therefore the community is looking at what they might need to do in order to ensure that these whether be human sources or systems are going to be protected. and it's

in addition, the national security concept is being prepared in the country; its project is also plannedt for discussion on the legal portal let me remind you. this internet platform has been the brainchild of the national center for legal information for a quarter of a century, it collects and systematizes all legal information, officially publishes legislative norms. well, the legal portal allows you to get up-to-date means of public opinion in the most significant areas of life. the concept of national security is being developed by such a state body as the security council, and in particular the state secretariat, the security councils will certainly be involved in this work. probably all, uh, participants in the legal life of the country and not only are involved, but it seems to me that the concept of national security is such a document that requires discussion. not so much online as live contact, therefore, perhaps, we should talk about dialogue platforms, rather on the issues of discussing the concept of national security, but also ncp. in this case, too , can participate very a

understand that a lot of information may not always be broadcast live. it is known as of now what the national securitynse council of ukraine will be about tomorrow . of the country, you just have to wait until tomorrow and you will all be informed about what the members of the security and defense council will talk about tomorrow at their meeting, what decisions we will make tomorrow it is clear that you cannot tell us live today about what will happen tomorrow, and it is certain that well, we understand that absolutely, let's still understand what threats can await us, because you also talked about it, the issue of belarus is information about the fact that they are mobilizing their troops, in particular, on our borders with them near the volyn region, and what movements are taking place there, what kind of equipment is being transported, and what is known as of now, should we expect this attack in the near future? in the belarusian direction, we understand what has been happening there since monday, there is already a second e-e inspection of our areas bordering belarus regarding preparation for opt

committee and has done an excellent job since assuming this role in highlighting the slew of national security issues that confront us as a nation advocating for a strong and aggressive military and intelligence posture to protect our future. he has served since 2002 including stents leading the armed services tactical air and land forces as well as strategic forces subcommittee while serving on the intelligence committee. we sought to move these conversations with the american public beyond scif and we welcome him. he will be joined by his colleague from mississippi congressman trent kelly who serves on the house intelligence armed services committee. congressman kelly has spent 36 years in the army national guard as a combat engineer where he's currently serving. he's a consistent voice for our men and women in uniform and those serving in the shadows within our intelligence community gentlemen, welcome to heritage . for those of you here live in the auditorium please join me in welcoming them. [applause] >>. >> thank you doctor roberts and thank you for having us here at heritage and i want

it serves national security in a broader sense a little better to adopt the role and equivalent to theattorney-client privilegerd that the protection courts afford to secret agreements from u.s. and intelligence services will not extend to the commission of war crimes and human rights abuses in the court's ruling more deeply. in any case the courts extremely problematic it extends the reach powerful privilege from the realm of secrets which was large enough as it is to the vast world of public information that might touch and national security let's move to the court's ruling, they raise the issue of whether provision of the foreign intelligence surveillance act . . . states secrets privilege. the case was brought by three muslim americans who were caught up in a campaign that the f.b.i. conducted in 2005 and 2006 against muslim american communities in southern california. it was undisputed against muslim-american communities in southern california. it was undisputed that the plaintiffs could make out their case without using privileged evidence that the fbi claims it would need to use

it has critical implications for our national security. with this funding we will make sure that the united states is never again in a position where our national security interests are compromised are our key industries are immobilized due to our inability to produce semiconductors here at home. this past year, we saw the impact of the chip shortage on american families when the car crisis drove a third of inflation because of lack of chips. factory workers were furloughed, household appliances were often unavailable all because of a lack of semiconductors. hours -- as our economy and military becomes reliable on technology it is essential we develop a strategy that enables us to plan foreign economy that positions us to compete today, and into the future. i want to take the next few minutes to lay out for you where we are and how the department of commerce plans to implement the $50 billion in chips funding that we will be overseeing. with the chips funding, we are setting out to achieve four primary objectives. first, to establish and e

critical implications for national security. with this funding, we are going to make sure the united states is never again in a position where our national security interests are compromised, or key industries immobilized due to our inability to produce essential semiconductors at home. this year, we saw the impact of the chip shortage on american families when car prices drove one third of inflation because of lack of chips. factory workers furloughed, household appliances unavailable. all because of a lack of semiconductors. as our economy and military become more reliant on technology, it is that much more ease central we develop a strategy with values, outcomes and structures that enable us to plan for an economy and manufacturing infrastructure that positions us to compete today and into the future. i want to take the next few minutes to lay out for you where we are and how the department of commerce plans to implement the $50 billion in ship funding we will be overseeing. with the chips funding, we are setting out to achie

the belarusians will update the concept of national security document today, the president and the secretary of state of the security council discussed the need in the independence palace, primarily due to the unstable geopolitical situation, and at the same time, the document needs to consolidate the innovations reflected in the constitution, the concept of security. updated almost 70% studied foreign experience and the opinion of the scientific expert community among the strategic national interests of the belarusian states. now the historical memory is the constitutional category of the people and its worldwide protection, and among the new national interests, the social responsibility of citizens. not only the state of personal data security. the development of nuclear energy, taking into account global threats of a biological nature, has been added to the concept. a new area, biological security in the preparation of a new edition of the concept of national security. however, i would ask before we consider it to the security council that it be absolutely frank. you don't have to hide an

at what level are we today in preparing a new version of the concept of national security, while i would ask before we consider it by the security council that it be absolutely frank. there is no need to hide anything, based on some political or even economic motives, and so on. we have to honestly, a write down, uh, the risks of the threat that exist and our reaction to them, so that both neighbors and others know how we will react, so that they tell me that for someone it was a surprise. you don't have to hide anything, you have to do everything. honestly, if we are from russia so we are russia we have created a defense space. we have a common armed forces, in fact, our army. a regional grouping operates on the cutting edge. and let no one there criticize us and, uh, not make some kind of uh, either fakes, or emergency statements that oh, there’s lukashenka, uh, russian troops and so on. and what's here? it's amazing we have already announced this for probably 20 years, since we agreed on this , so there is nothing here. everyone knew, and especially our society. how will we apply, wha

those documents to see if trump's on authorized handling of storage of them potentially handed national security. that review, just ten and, world is allowed to continue. supposedly. the office of the -- national intelligence as part of the into executive branch so what does it mean that that office can continue its work while the doj cannot as it considers or concerns these documents from mar-a-lago and august. and finally there's a question of who in the world it's going to serve as a special master in this case. that person will likely need a top secret clearance. and you cannot find people with those credentials on linkedin. the judge also wrote that the justice department to trump's team by friday have to jointly file a list of potential candidates for the job and they need to outline the duties and limits of that person's role. i mean way do you find someone like that and who would even want that job? i think it is safe to say that we are long way away of a special master being appointed and who knows, the government may decide to fight this ruling in the interim. joining us now is ryan go

but throughout my time in focus oni have been national security and national health security at everyat leve, whether it's access to care in our communities or some situation like this that affects our national t security. one of the things that we have as physicians in the military is we have two missions. went to have a ready medical force any medically ready force. it's extremely important that we do engage in these types of issues across the board. we see rapid technological advancements that can enable novel biological weapons perhaps and complicate detection and attribution and treatment, and with covid just remember it was named immediately a novel coronavirus. it certainly was. this discussion with the experts is timely and hopefully going to be informative and helpful and we will have an opportunity at the inn for people to ask questions either virtually or from here in the audience. i will just go into that a little bit. for those participating virtually if you'd like to ask a question we will be using the platform slido. go to webmac slido.com and enter the hashtag biodefense

intelligence committee and has done an excellent job assuming this role and highlighting the slew of national security issues that confront us as a nation advocating for strong and aggressive military and intelligence posture to protect our future, he served in congress in 2,002, including students leading the armed services tactical atlantic forces as well as the strategic forces subcommittee while serving on the house intelligence committee in 2015. he sought to move these conversations with american public beyond as cif, with an excellent discussion. we are joined by his colleague from mississippi, congress and trent kelley who serves on house intelligence and armed services committee, congress and kelly spent 36 years in the mississippi army national guard as combat engineer where he currently serves. he is a consistent voice for our men and women in uniform and those serving in the shadows of intelligence community. for those of you here live in the auditorium please join me in welcoming congressman mike turner. [applause] >> thank you, doctor robertson thank you for having us here at heritage an

so we won't allow anything to happen that we think undermines our national security. >> thanknk you, secretary. >> thank you. thanks, everybodys, and a secretary. i have one thing at the top and then you all know we probably have about 30 minutes or so for the next event. i want to take a moment to acknowledge the attack in canada over the weekend. it's senseless into devastating. i won't get ahead of the canadian law enforcement as they continue their work. our thoughts are with the victims of this horrific attack. we stand with canada and all those affected by this tragedy and condemn this senseless violence. [inaudible] >> he's going to speak to her o later today this afternoon. he's planning to call her to congratulate her, the new prime minister, so that's going to happen later this afternoon. >> another one of the fatal shooting i wanted to know the white house reaction to the conclusion and then also whether it is acceptable to the president that no one will be held accountable. >> i know this report came out yesterday as it was reported by the defense forces asy you just

national security interests? >> to be quite frank, as you said earlier i would not want to see china pick up the role that we've had for almost 80 years. and it is securing to the entire global economy. it's a big job. it's a big responsibility. i would rather iffy on u.s. shoulders than chinese shoulders because what that puts the dependency of our own asian partners at risk on, in terms of those energy supplies. there is a constructive role. china could play a constructive role vis-À-vis iran but they don't. >> china could play a a constructive role. they aren't you just want td your argument persuasive but i think it's important to have the conversation. i'll have other questions for a second round but we have got members waiting to ask questions so i will turn over to senator young. >> thank you. china has cemented its still picking up on the chair demings -- chairman's bill mini questionably to iran and its relationship to china, china cemented itself as one of iran's most reliable allies. iran's foreign poli

these are very highly sensitive with potential consequences for our national security. very grave, and if not secured property, taking them away from the white house improperly and not turned over when they were demanded to be turned over. this is deadly serious. >> congressman, i want to apologize. i'm having problems hearing you, but apparently, you're able to hear me. i will keep on going because i value your time and the opportunity to have you here. i will pivot a bit now congressman. the department of justice moved to appeal judge cannons rule on the necessity of a special master on the case. but the doj and trump attorneys posed special candidates disservice petal master yesterday. i would like to get your thoughts on what i think arsenal tactics frankly, by donald trump, claiming a need for a special master and the nominees that been put forth by the job? >> yeah, look, i think we looked at this and said a special master is not necessary. there is no basis for it, and is clearly an effort by donald trump to delay this ongoing very serious criminal investigation.

national security interests.e criminal exposure, would on his own i think prioritize an intelligence product that helped guide the major decisions of his presidency. it's another piece of evidence that he was far from the head of our state, he was always prioritizing his personal legal prerogatives. and i guess i want to understand from you, as mary was talking, i was thinking, say, for example, there was somebody at mar-a-lago that helped the government understand where the documents were. if you want to find out if any potential foreign assets had access to the storage room, the same person that would give you the kind of evidence that would help you understand if the information was compromised might be the same person that told you whether donald trump stuffed them in the folders and moved them back and forth to his office. so it does seem like a very tangible hurdle maybe if paralyze is too strong. talk about your concerns from a national security perspective. >> well, as mary knows well from our time togeth