every 14 months over an eight-year period there was a new national security advisor. and that attention between the ideology he was committed to and his ability i studied reagan and found that fascinating and often wondered a president who has that national security advisor and as a defender 1987 the washington summit led to the nuclear disarmament treaty with the cold war. how did he get something that historic done. 's how did that happen from the work that you did? and then to go early on in the process. and with air force one and he said mi leper and that he complained that the deputy chief of staff in a gorilla costume said hi i'm jim baker. you cannot imagine that they he was secretary of state and knows what he wanted. and that stability there so the idea of reagan rule if you have a sense then you are more likely to know the direction the president is trying to go. and george h.w. bush with more conservative staffers because bush itself was a little less clear of his position. so they really weren't clear where they would go. >> related to that. and it's been t

role of the national security advisor. it struck me it was entirely possible that we could work together and the issues of his character would not adversely affect the decision making on national security issues but use that as a general i eat i don't i don't think i was naive and i thought it could be as as many others did who came to work the administration that it could be made successful now the book really is the story of whether that turned out to be true or not obstruction of justice is perhaps your most serious charge against trump you talked about several episodes where he expressed a willingness to hold criminal investigations to in effect give personal favors to dictate as he liked to the turkish leader regine tired. even to xi jinping anyone else. well i think these these were the most obvious but. the whole concept of dealing for example with a lot of your putin is if the assertions of our intelligence services were the moral equivalent of what putin said on behalf of russia. was another aspect of it and i felt

i presided over a process at the national security council where we prepared over 100 individual briefing papers for the incoming national security advisornt 12 hours in four separate sessions briefing my successor on all of the important issues that might arise in that were on the table ranging from russia, china to pandemic preparedness. so our effort was despite the bizarre nature of the election despite president trump's strange behavior before, during and after and our approach was to do the utmost in a responsible handoff from one administration to the other just as president bush had done for barack obama. >> one of the papers on pandemics, one with the 69 page paper that when we spoke in april, you described as a pandemic for dummies. and you said, when we spoke in april, you said the idea of a pandemic was keeping me up at night because we had not begun to hit the top of the curve. as for the president, you said and he bragged, if we had not done anything, maybe 2.2 million would've died in 240,000 is a good outcome, and what circle of hell is that a good outcome, that's what you said to me when we spoke on the podcast in april.

tonight president trump's national security advisor is in quarantine after testing positive for coronavirusobert o'brien is the president's principal advisor on issues related to u.s. security and he sits just steps from the oval office. but tonight the white house isn't saying if he exposed the president to the virus. here's cbs's ben tracy. >> national security advisor robert o'brien, a member of the president's innercircle is the highest-ranking white house official ing effected with coronavirus. according to another administration official, he may have contracted it from his daughter. the white house claims there is no risk to the president but won't say when the two were last together. i hav'teen hilately. i rd he tested-- yeah, have i not seen him. >> the president did not explain why he is not recently seen his own national security advisor but mr. trump did wear a mask today during a visit to a biotech company in the key battleground state of north carolina. it is working on components for a coronavirus vaccine, with just 99 days until the election, and trailing former vice presiden

joining me is susan rice, national security advisor under president obama.e in the room as the president received his intelligence brief daily. she's also the author we should mention of "tough love my story of the things worth fighting for." ambassador rice, appreciate having you on the program tonight. i want to ask you -- >> good evening, jim. >> -- what consequences are there for u.s. national security when you have a president who blows up when he hears critical information or intelligence about one of its primaried a ver sar ri adversaries, russia, what does that mean? >> the national security advisor. my job was to brief the president to bring to the president all that he needs to hear, not what he wants to hear. not that it's nice to hear and in fact, when i served president obama, he would sometimes joke that i and others who brought bad news were the doomsday people but he always listened to what we had to say and he never conveyed the impression that news was too bad to be worthy of him hearing. you don't intimidate the messengers. you welcome the

>> it is certainly clear that my best story in the white house about inciting the national security advisor in the secretary of state and then is to enter nixon administration with henry kinzinger who is a national security advisor and intern to remember now because we see it of a group of foreign policy but then he was very young, very aggressive and he was constantly threatened by william rogers who is the secretary of state and nixon also newington nixon and with the wings around rogers and parts of nixon recognized and learned from kinzinger whereas rogers had nothing to teach nixon who was a strategist and came to foreign policy. sometimes you have a situation where the national security advisor, when it rings around an event in the carter administration were there citing between the secretary of state and they knew each other before the administration in the night of the election and they talked about the prospects of them working together in the first day of the carter administrati administration, he is briefed by the communication council and until the phone rings from the secretary

she was national security advisor under president obama.he would be in the room, as the president received his intelligence brief, daily. she is also the author we should mention of "tough love, my story of the things worth fighting for." appreciate having you on the program tonight. >> good evening. >> i want to ask you what consequences are there for u.s. national security, when you have a president who blows up when he hears critical information or intelligence about one of his primary adversaries, russia. what does that mean for the safety and security of this country? >> well, jim, the advisers to the president, particularly national security advisor, but also secretary of defense, chief of staff, director of national intelligence. their job and my job was to brief the president. to bring to the president all that he needs to hear. not what he wants to hear. not that it's nice to hear. and, in fact, when i served president obama, he would sometimes joke that i, and others, who brought bad news were the doomsday people. but he always li

is the knowledge that you're not going to prevail on every issue i like to say i was the national security advisor not the national security decisions maker in each of these cases as they came up i had conversations with others in the administration certainly didn't feel that i was alone and my view. of the seriousness of these issues but i think it's a very personal decision to try. and decide when finally you have to resign and versus whether you can keep it keep doing what you're trying to do because of the issues presented you say you shared your concerns about this pattern of obstruction with key members of trumps in a team the attorney general bill barr secretary of state might pompei oh you say bar told you he was very worried about the appearances trump was creating just the appearances is that all that worried him. well look at the reason i informed him and the white house counsel lonnie and others was because they're the ones responsible for enforcing the legal guidelines and boundaries. which they didn't do it was i so let me finish for a 2nd it's not my job to be the prosecutor it's my

i presided over a process at the national security council will be prepared over 100 individual briefing papers for the incoming national security advisorspent 12 hours in four separate sessions briefing my successor on all of the important issues that might arise, or that were on the table , ranging from russia to china to pandemic preparedness. was, despite the bizarre nature of the election, despite president trump's strange behavior before, during and after, our approach was to do our utmost in a responsible handoff from wanted administration to the other, just as president bush had done for barack obama. host: one of those papers you mentioned, a paper on pandemic come one was a 69 page paper that when we spoke in april you described as pandemics for dummies. you said when we spoke in april that the idea of a pandemic was "keeping me up at night because we have not begun to hit the top ." the curve here as for the president, you said, rags." "he b if we hadn't done anything maybe 2.2 million would have died. so of the 240,000 is a good outcome. and what circle of hell is that a good outcome? that's what you spoke to me in the podca

intelligence people didn't even-- many of them didn't believe it happened at all. >> reporter: but national security advisor robert o'brien said the raw intelligence was worrisome enough to share with the military. >> even though it wasn'trifiede. >> reporter: on the cbs news podcast "the takeout," former national security advisor john bolton told major that president trump lacked an interest in intelligence briefings. >> he is just not receptive to new facts. >> reporter: mr. trump's presumptive democratic challenger, joe biden, says he is more mentally prepared for the job. >> i can hardly wait to compare my cognitive capability to the cognitive capability of the man i'm running against. >> reporter: voters have questioned whether the ages of both men will impact their work. biden is 77, and the president just turned 74. >> he doesn't know where he is, frankly. i watched his press conference yesterday, he is answering-- i mean, he is answering questions like this, from a teleprompter. >> reporter: the cameras in the room showed that was not true. earlier today, president trump also criticized new york cit

. >> today, susan rice, former obama national security advisor and ambassador to the un shares her thoughts on how the trump administration responded to the coronavirus pandemic and the possibility of her being a running mate for joe biden. she spoke with washington post columnist jonathan capehart. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> we are at a moment where our democracy is at stake. where are leadership role of the world is at stake for the lives of tens of thousands of americans are on the line with incompetence and callous leadership that could care less. we've got to change that. ♪ ♪ >> good afternoon i am john thing capehart in opinion writer for the "washington post" for this is "washington post" live is also special live recording of my podcast. former president obama's first term susan rice was the bouncer to united nations and the second term she was obama's national security advisor. today, she is a private citizen. she is the author of tough love, my story of the things worth fighting for. and under consider his consideration to be joe biden's of vice presidential running mate. welcome back for the t

there is mo way trump has had any contact with his national security advisor, we all know that.s could get infected but what is crazy is apparently some didn't even know about the positive test until they read about if in the news. yeah, imagine that. the national security advisor got coronavirus, they didn't know about it until they read it in the news. sort of the same way some people discover from instagram that they are now single, oh cool, dude, cynthia went to a wedding, wait, why is she kissing the grooming. ohk! so at this point, almost every other place in the world is doing better than the united states. in fact, there is actually one corner of the world that has been untouched by the pandemic. north korea. am south korea's warrior. and i'm not sure that i quite believe that they have never had corona but in any case north korea has now officially blown its perfect game. >> north korea is reporting what it calls its first suspected case of covid-19. a state-run news agency says kim jong un ordered on lockdown for the border city of kaesong after a defector returned fro

the national security advisor, to the chief ofstaff . to the cabinet and key cabinet member, secretary of defense and secretary of state told that all of them are briefed. normally the briefer is assigned to all those key people. and the briefer will go through the pdd. the first responsibility is to read the pdd and it is as i said a lengthy read so it's important to have a board briefer. the briefer will go through the key elements of the briefing and highlight key information responded to your questions read that usually what's done and i'm sure it's done withthe president and with these other individuals . so in some ways even though thebriefer may not have touched on everything , it is the responsibility of the person who gets the pdd to read the thing. and as i said, i know it's tough. i know it can be time-consuming but there's a lot of important information in it. so i'm a little concerned that other people who if this was in fact contained in the pdd, while others didn't raise this as well. as a result of it. it's not just up to

that's what the national security advisor should do. let me make one more point. are not two categories of intelligence. verified over here and not verified over there. intelligence, invariably, is placed along a spectrum. the intelligence community understands this. they have high confidence in sum, medium confidence, low confidence. people will have to judge. different agencies will disagree. there's not a block of granite you carry around to show to the president that is called verified intelligence. there's a range. you deal with uncertainty. that's part of the job. >> if the susan rice essay and panetta, essay by leon i found the mixed ordinary in their heat. how would you recommend that president trump extricate himself from this now? particularly, how he addresses the military at the pentagon. >> i can't offer advice on how to get out of a mess he has created. by my count, in the last five days, he has told three different stories on whether he was briefed, whether he was told it was fake, whether it's fake news by the new york times, a whole range of thing

president trump's former deputy national security advisor on that next.

how reagan got something that historic done in the midst of having new faces, not just the national security advisor, but downstream, the people underneath each map coming in and coming out. how did that happen from the work you did? >> national security advisor position was -- the secretary of state's position right after -- i have a wonderful story in the book houston haig because jim baker was the chief of staff and mike disease very didn't like haig and they tried to keep him off moat core do motorcades and air force one the hotel and haig said am i a helper in she complained but the gorillas in the white house. and mike deaver dresses up in a gorilla costume in the white house, making fun of him. astounding if could not imagine an era of cellphones and twitter somebody who duty but this was before that. so haig goes -- then george shut come -- george shuts comes in ask and the stan there really helped and then the other thing is this idea that the idea of regular reagan rules. if you have a seasons of what the president wants you're more like through dish even if they interchange, aide notes th

this just hours after his own national security advisor said it was important enough to share with troopsus, the president demands new york cancel plans to paint "black lives matter" outside his manhattan highrise. the reaction tonight after he calls the phrase a "symbol of hate." breaking news in the disappearance of a fort hood soldier. shots ring out as police approach a suspect. as investigators share details with a missing woman's family. seattle standoff. police move in to clear out a neighborhood taken over by protestors weeks ago. and, music for the movement. meet the 12-year-old sensation who is writing the soundtrack for this moment in history. this is the "cbs evening news" with norah o'donnell, reporting from the nation's capital. >> garrett: good evening to our viewers in the west. thank you so much for joining us. norah is off tonight. i'm major garrett. we're going to begin with breaking news. a stunning surge in coronavirus cases across much of our country that is forcing states to close bars, beaches and businesses, reimposing restrictions just days before the july 4th ho

these photos were taken less than two weeks ago during a trip that our national security advisor took to europe. no masks, no social distancing. hey, can you pass the bread basket? and it's perhaps because this photographic evidence is here, our national security advisor failing to follow basic public health advice, that it's not totally shocking to hear that he tested positive for coronavirus today. national security advisor robert o'brien is the highest ranking official in the united states government to have been infected with coronavirus. the white house says mr. o'brien is experiencing only mild symptoms and self-isolating at home. they also say he didn't expose the president or the vice president but he does join the ever-growing list of officials and staffers in regular, close contact with the president who have come down with the virus. by this point the white house's seemingly cavalier behavior toward protecting themselves from infection is less than surprising. here was the president's top economic advisor on the white house lawn today talking to reporters with his nose popp

coming up, president trump's former national security advisor is standing by his controversial book. ill bring you that next. this is bloomberg. president trump's former national security advisor is standing by his book. one of john's most explosive allegations is the trump sought china's help on the trade front to boost his reelection. that was donald trump speaking in english. read wasnce that you thei agreed to describe exact words that the president used. >> what did you do in the days and weeks after that? how did you follow up after you overheard it? mr. bolton: a lot of things are done in order to keep policy on track. in that case, there were extensive negotiations underway for what turned out to be a partial trade deal. there wasn't any way to take those words back. i believe in the records of the chinese government, 50-100 years from now, when they are released you will see their notes as to what the president said in that meeting. there was no doubt in my mind on the chinese side they understood what was going on. it's not the only occasion where this comment about buying a

eastern with susan rice, former obama administration national security advisor and u.s. ambassador to the un. she talks with washington post columnist jonathan, they discuss u.s. china relations and her potential to be a running mate for joe biden. at 4:00 o'clock eastern doctor anthony fauci director of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases held discuss, 19 at an event hosted by georgetown university. you can watch all of those events online as well at c-span .org or listen live on the free c-span radio app. >> tonight, special addition of book tv during week nights this. starting at 8:00 p.m. eastern john bolton, president trump's former national security advisor, talks with washington post about his book, the room where it happened. then david horowitz offers his thoughts on how president trump can win reelection in 2020. later, state university of new york economics professor stephanie kelton and huff post senior reporter zachary carter, talk about modern economic theories and whether they still hold up. enjoy book tv on c-span2. ♪ >> c-span, has

so but certainly clear that some by stories in the white house or between the national security advisorin the secretary of state. in the nixon administration, kissinger was the national security advisor and it's hard for us remember now we see him as a guru on foreign policy. whose conflict threatened by william rogers who is the secretary of state and nay nixon demonstration who knew eisenhower and then kissinger ran around rogers because nixon allowed it. he recognized kissinger's of brilliance and learn from him on foreign policy and rogers had nothing to teach nixon he is quite the strategist when it came to foreign policy. sometimes you have a situation for the national security adviser can run rings about around the secretary of state. similarly as in the carter administration with this constant fighting these guys knew each other before the administration and had dinner before the election and talked about working together. on the first day of the carter administration he's briefed on his administration council and his phone rings from the president's phone rings and a secretary

national security advisor, robert o'brien, said that the intelligence about the alleged russia plot was being taken so seriously that u.s. allies were alerted and that it could impact military tactics. how is that a hoax? >> as i mentioned yesterday, what happens when any intelligence comes in unverified, if there's any way that it could affect american troops or allies, it's immediately communicated on the ground to ensure that troops and commanders and generals can make the best decisions tactically speaking. that's the way it's done. what i would say is at the same time, until there's a strategic decision for the president to make, until it's verified, it's not briefed up to the president of the united states. that's how intelligence works. reporter: is he angry or frustrated or upset about the fact that he was not in a loop on this from members of congress were briefed and u.s. allies were briefed. >> the president believes and has great faith in ambassador o'brien and others. who made the decision that this should not be risen to his desk. this was a career cia officer with more th

my first guest is susan rice,, susan former national security advisor and u.n. president obama, and new york times bestselling author of "tough love." we spoke about joe biden's vice presidential prospects and the legacy of john lewis. ambassador rice, welcome to "the daily distancing show." >> it's great to be with you, trevor, thanks. >> trevor: it's a very different way to be with one another, and during this time, i've realized it's also a very different way for us to mourn the passing of people that we admired or cared about. most recently, john lewis. when you lookt at his legacy and his life and what we need to continue doing today, how far tuning we are on continuing that journey and creating that "good trouble," as he called it? >> well, i hope john lewis' legacy will be to give us all a kick in the pants and remind us that we can be much better than we are, especially than we are today. you know, he had such warmth and such humanity and such courage, and he never, never quit fighting, and he knew that he was leaving us at a moment when we were being so

plus, stephen welcomes former national security advisor john bolton.turing jon batiste and stay homin'. and now, live on tape from a safe distance, it's stephen colbert! >> stephen: got your props ready? all the props for our prop comedy show we're going to do? welcome to "a late show." i'm your host, stephen colbert. we're a little over four months from the presidential election, and things are not looking great for donald trump. he's trailing biden by double digits in polls by cnn and cnbc. he's even down by 12 points in a fox news poll. ooh, you know it hurts more when you get the news from someone you love. the only way it could have been worse is if he found out from the bottom of a chicken bucket. trump is so far behind, that according to "the hill," "there is no plausible scenario where trump would lose the national popular vote by the kind of margin currently projected, yet why would you say that, you idiots! i gotta knock on wood. it's aged in oak. trump's still stinging from the embarrassment of his sparsely attended rally in tulsa, so last w

in my position as national security advisor has been to prepare options for the president to consider in response to this intelligence so my first question is is it the normal case that there had to be some level of intelligence before the process of developing options occurs and secondly in order to be included in the president's daily brief there has to be some intelligence to support it whether it's moderate, i or low confidence but it doesn't include rumors or in your window or unsupported allegations, is that fair to say that mark. >> absolutely. the intelligence is there ranges across a vast spectrum of credibility. but let me just give you an example . if there were intelligence there that nuclear weapon had been planted someplace in washington dc, and let's assume that there just was a lot of credibility assigned to it but just the mere fact that there may be a nuclear weapon in washington dc seems significant enough that you'd better damn well alert the president of the united states to that responsibility. >> i think that's the question i have mister secretary is the elephan

now national security advisor robert o'brien said that the information was not fully verified and that's why they didn't give it to the president. and secretary of state mike pompeo also defended the white house's response to this intelligence when he spoke at the state department yesterday. now later this morning we are going to see a briefing for the gang of eight from the intelligence community leaders on this russian bounty intelligence. the folks who are going to be briefing include the cia director, dena haskell, john radcliffe and this is expected to 3r0e vied provide more answers to those members of congress who have not felt they had sufficient answers to their questions provided by the white house briefing earlier this week. >> one congressman not mincing his words is seth moulton, a democrat from massachusetts and an iraq war veteran. take a listen to what he said about the president's handling of intelligence. >> i was a platoon commander in iraq. if i led my marines into an ambush because i didn't bother to read the intelligence report i was given, that said we would get amb

troops quote a hoax while his hand picked national security advisor admits response plans were beingink it's a hoax. i think it's a hoax but the newspapers and the democrats. >> if it turned out to be true, we had options ready to go and the president was ready to take strong action. >> alex marquardt is "outfront". >> reporter: the trump administration today scrambling to answer why the white house had the intelligence as far back as early last year that russia was offering bounties to the taliban to kill american forces but the president they claim wasn't told about it. that decision was made by the president's intelligence briefer according to the official in charge of making sure that the president hears what he needs to. the national security advisor robert o'bryan. >> she made that decision because she didn't have confidence in the intelligence that came up knowing the facts i know knonow, i stand behind the call. >> reporter: the intelligence was serious enough it was briefed to top officials including former national security advisor john bolton and early this year, according

that is what the national security advisor should do. one more point.re not two categories of intelligence -- verified over here and not verified over there. intelligence invariably is placed along a spectrum. the intelligence community understands this. they say they have high confidence, medium, low. people will have to judge and different agencies will disagree. there is not some block of granite you carry around to show the president called verified intelligence. you deal with uncertainty. that is part of the job. looked at the susan rice essay and also the essay by leon panetta. i found them extraordinary in their heat. how would you recommend that trump extricate himself from particularly how he addresses the military at the pentagon? offerlton: i cannot advice on how to get out of the mess he has created. in the last four or five days, he has told three different stories on whether he was briefed, whether he was told it was fake, whether it is fake news by the new york times. his advisers are now contradicting themselves as well. how do i view th

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the task former trump deputy national security advisor, k.t. mcfarland.hat was your reaction, what did you think. >> good for him, good for senator kaine to admit the obvious and to be truthful. i was surprised and very impressed because that took some real guts for a democrat who had been a vice presidential candidate to come out and say the republicans did it better than we did. he is absolutely right, the one thing about president trump, don't listen to what he says he says a lot of stuff and treats a lot of stuff. watch what he does, what he does is very significant, he stood up to russia and china but with russia he increased american spending and fixed our armed forces and encouraged american energy and drove the price of oil down which bankrupted russia, he gave lethal weapons to the ukrainians, all these things that stop the obama did not do, in 2018 just as a deterrent as senator kaine just said, he had a cyber attack on the russian unit that did metal in the 2016 election and he said in 2018 don't dare do it again or we will come after you and t

the national security advisor is saying today he had a list of retaliatory options the intelligence had been corroborated. i will ask mike pompeo about the story, many other topics around the world in just a few minutes. first, from the white house tonight, kristin fisher live on the lawn. >> good evening, this is the first time since "the new york times" wrote the story on friday. president trump talked about it on camera, he said if russia did offered bounties to kill u.s. troops in afghanistan, he would take action. >> i agree with the intelligence people. i think frankly many of the intelligence people didn't think something that would happen. if it did happen, the russians would hear about it, and anybody else would hear about it that was involved. >> today the national security advisor confirmed that the intelligence behind to the russian bounties was shared with u.s. allies. he pinned the -- on the daily pray for, a career cia officer. >> she made that decision because she didn't have confidence in the intelligence. she made that call, i think she made the right call. >> democrat

very i'm 100 percent confident that everybody will have done their best to explain to the national security advisor and to the president why this is a bad idea what the impacts will be the impact on our leadership role within nato how much the alliance means to us so i would i would not say they're just going along with it at the end of the day and so it's a legal order they have and they have to make it work so they are great and of course they had to go to the congress now after the fact to try to get support out i've been encouraged to see so much strong resistance to this in the congress you know like so i think it boils down to who does the president listen to he listens to former ambassador grinnell unfortunately in his own national security advisor mr o'brian does not understand what's in your or why or why we have forces in europe and i don't know unfortunately the president. has a philosophy about nato and its and a lack of understanding of why we have forces in europe and germany in particular and why it's to our advantage in the united states to have this i mean think about it the number

national security advisor is tim sebastian's guest this week on conflict zone bolton big said clear he does not want trump to serve a 2nd term. we're 4 months away from the next of those elections what if trump loses by a small margin do you expect him to go quietly or organize some going of bizarre national emergency to try and stay way well maybe you would tell me what evidence you have that he's planning to to create a bizarre national emergency you know it's reporters in arizona didn't say that the vote will be the most corrupt election in the history of our country and we cannot let this happen so you're making the same mistake as many trump critics you're exaggerating without adequate evidence and i know you're question and i know from your questions you obviously despise truck that's fine i understand that but but the way you're approaching it makes it difficult for those of us who are opposed to him getting another term to make the case to americans who want to know what the facts are that that's something that you know the people will decide here in 4 months and we'll see what