national tactical officers association, tactical officers all over the country, are people who can deal with, you know, shooters. they're practiced with that, equipped and trained in it. routine training. they have a lot of specialized tools so, you know, no. they're not -- it's not something they can't not handle. as far as the citizens, this's great. listening to law enforcement's direction to stay in place. you're safe there. we're out here dealing with the situation. once they contain whatever's going on, then people in the businesses will probably be released behind the police lines and, you know, able to get out. but of course, you can't just let them out. someone in there with a rifle or something, an explosive device, you have to make sure it's safe and takes a little time for the commanders to, you know, ascertain that. >> are you surprised at all considering when you don't have a shooter contained, not sure where that shooter is, more than one, i asked the people who we spoke to inside the stores were police calling them, reaching out to them via social media and the reason i